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#1 rawsavon
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So Mark Sanchez is now hooking up with HS chicks.

I guess it is not enough to be captain of the HS team. Now you have to be an NFL QB to get any play.
IF THIS IS TRUE, this guy has to be one big DB (and not a defensive back).

Thoughts OT?

The guy is 23, out of college, and f....dating a HS girl
-it is legal (age of consent there is 16)

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Awesome for the girl but sucks for any guys who wanted to go out with her...for real Mark...

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So....many....innuendos Not....sure....what....crosses....the....line.... Aaarrrggghhhh!!! I guess I can't say anything about endzones, man-to-man coverage, running post routes, roughing the passer, tight ends, two minute warnings, and going deep. So I guess I'll boringly say, He shouldn't be doing that.
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#4 worlock77
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That's gonna sink a career.

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#5 Atmanix
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So....many....innuendos Not....sure....what....crosses....the....line.... Aaarrrggghhhh!!! I guess I can't say anything about endzones, man-to-man coverage, running post routes, roughing the passer, tight ends, two minute warnings, and going deep. So I guess I'll boringly say, He shouldn't be doing that.FragStains

I'd also accept taking a knee.

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#6 SolidSnake35
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I bet someone posted a girl thread about her... and now their heart is broken.
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]So....many....innuendos Not....sure....what....crosses....the....line.... Aaarrrggghhhh!!! I guess I can't say anything about endzones, man-to-man coverage, running post routes, roughing the passer, tight ends, two minute warnings, and going deep. So I guess I'll boringly say, He shouldn't be doing that.Atmanix

I'd also accept taking a knee.

You guys missed the best one... [spoiler] 'field' is all I will say [/spoiler]
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That's gonna sink a career.

worlock77

Well, Big Ben still has a career.

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#9 FragStains
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[QUOTE="FragStains"]So....many....innuendos Not....sure....what....crosses....the....line.... Aaarrrggghhhh!!! I guess I can't say anything about endzones, man-to-man coverage, running post routes, roughing the passer, tight ends, two minute warnings, and going deep. So I guess I'll boringly say, He shouldn't be doing that.Atmanix

I'd also accept taking a knee.

*scribbles furiously*
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#10 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

That's gonna sink a career.

madsnakehhh

Well, Big Ben still has a career.

True, but Ben only rapes adult wwomen. This is a minor we're talking about. People get really outraged over that sort of thing (even if it is consentual and legal).

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#11 AFBrat77
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[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

That's gonna sink a career.

worlock77

Well, Big Ben still has a career.

True, but Ben only rapes adult wwomen. This is a minor we're talking about. People get really outraged over that sort of thing (even if it is consentual and legal).

It is LEGAL in most states and in most countries, as far as I'm concerned 16 is old enough. Anyone younger is a different story.

"Old enough to drive, old enough to dive"

Besides, she's 17.

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#12 Pirate700
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So Mark Sanchez is now hooking up with HS chicks.

I guess it is not enough to be captain of the HS team. Now you have to be an NFL QB to get any play.
IF THIS IS TRUE, this guy has to be one big DB (and not a defensive back).

Thoughts OT?

The guy is 23, out of college, and f....dating a HS girl
-it is legal (age of consent there is 16)

rawsavon

I guess he's trying to follow the Rapelisberger way.

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#13 Fuhgeddabouditt
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This is a non issue. Heres why. The chick was in a club @ 17 and met Mark there. Girls these days look a lot older than what they really are. And besides, 17 is LEGAL in NY so, whats the problem? Nothing he did was illegal and he probably didnt even know she was 17. Even if he knew, so what. Heck, if im in the club, im not asking for ID, thats the bouncers job.

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#14 FragStains
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This brings up the point of the age of consent. Say it's 16. And a girl is 16 years and 1 day old, is she that much more mature than a girl who is 15 years and 364 days old? POST SCRIPT: I'm not defending or condoning the smashing of underage girls...just questioning the concept of the age of consent.
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#15 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

Well, Big Ben still has a career.

AFBrat77

True, but Ben only rapes adult wwomen. This is a minor we're talking about. People get really outraged over that sort of thing (even if it is consentual and legal).

It is LEGAL in most states and in most countries, as far as I'm concerned 16 is old enough. Anyone younger is a different story.

"Old enough to drive, old enough to dive"

Besides, she's 17.

Yes, I recognize that it's legal. Good job on apparently not reading past the part you bolded there.

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#16 Fuhgeddabouditt
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All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

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I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

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#18 rawsavon
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All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

Fuhgeddabouditt

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

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#19 mrmusicman247
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Ahem.

-I guess this is the only time getting sacked is a good thing.

-He tackled her when she was of legal age so he got a safety

-She must have been wide open in the club for him to hit her.

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Honestly, I suppose I couldn't really say too much here.

It says he is 24 and she is 17, so that puts about two years more difference compared to my current situation where I am 22 and interested in a 17 year old girl and in both situations it is perfectly legal.

I will say it is a bit odd that someone who is a famous football player and could likely have the pick from any number of women older than him or his age would choose a High School girl, but IDK.

It sounds like he treated her well and it was consentual, but it also seems like it was more of a "hook-up" type thing which I say in that regard I disagree with it.

At least this doesn't seem to be a rape situation...

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#21 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

rawsavon

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

In fact, might as well give the most popular person in that high school award right now.

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#22 Fuhgeddabouditt
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I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

rawsavon

hes young too and met her @ a club where you would assume there are 20s in there. Have you seen her picture? Have you been to clubs lately? Girls these days look OLD and are very good at fooling. For all we know, they might have done nothing (sex). And lastly, its LEGAL. No big deal :(

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What is wrong with NFL quarterbacks now a days?

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#24 AFBrat77
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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

True, but Ben only rapes adult wwomen. This is a minor we're talking about. People get really outraged over that sort of thing (even if it is consentual and legal).

worlock77

It is LEGAL in most states and in most countries, as far as I'm concerned 16 is old enough. Anyone younger is a different story.

"Old enough to drive, old enough to dive"

Besides, she's 17.

Yes, I recognize that it's legal. Good job on apparently not reading past the part you bolded there.

You act as if I'm trashing your statement....I'm merely making an observation and opinion on that statement. The other 2 sentences are insignificant to my answer though it appears you are offended by the legal relationship between these 2.

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I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

rawsavon

I agree with this as well.

It does seem a bit of a dumb move on his part, especially considering this seems to have been a one-nights stand sort of thing and he had such a huge pick of women. Like, of all the options to have meaningless sex, he would go for a 17 year old? Definitely bad judgement there.

I know with me, while it seems I might end up dating a 17 year old at my age, it is only because we have developed a really awesome relationship over a long period of time and if we date we have already decided to TAKE THINGS SLOW. (And of course you know this entire situation)

If I was looking just to get my kicks off, I definitely wouldn't be going for a 17 year old....

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#26 Fuhgeddabouditt
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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

rawsavon

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

How you know they had sex? She looks worst because she brought the attention to DEADSPIN and is now backing down because this story is laughable at best. She was most likely looking for a PAY DAY like most young *** these days but probably fount having dinner with a 17yr old is legal. Seriously, this story is almost TWO WEEKS OLD yet no one really has come down hard on him because theres really nothing there to nail him on.

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It might be cool in NY but where i come from he would have recieved 5 for illegal motions in her backfield.

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#28 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

It is LEGAL in most states and in most countries, as far as I'm concerned 16 is old enough. Anyone younger is a different story.

"Old enough to drive, old enough to dive"

Besides, she's 17.

AFBrat77

Yes, I recognize that it's legal. Good job on apparently not reading past the part you bolded there.

You act as if I'm trashing your statement....I'm merely making an observation and opinion on that statement. The other 2 sentences are insignificant to my answer though it appears you are offended by the legal relationship between these 2.

Not sure how you pick up that I'm offended simply by my commenting on it. Yes it's legal. A thousand times yes. We know that. This isn't a question of legality, it's a question of public perception. An organization that depends on people tuning in or turing up to watch is going to be very concern about the public image of the people who work for it. I personally could not care less about what went on between these two people. However, the dads who tune in week-in-and-week-out to Jets games, who have a 16 or 17 year-old daughter, won't be so ambivilant. they're going to think about their sweet, innocent daughter and then they're going to look at this guy and see a millionaire sports stars who could have his pick of adult women preying on girls their daughter's age. That's not going to sit to well with many of them.

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

rawsavon

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

So what if he did.....she's legal.

If they change the laws then maybe it will be considered illegal.

I'm American but we make a big deal out of nothing here. We're brainwashed to think that a 16 year old that has probably been through "the change of life" for at least 4 years has no clue what is going on. She's not 10 for chrissakes.

If a gal is old enough to make decisions on the road driving, she's old enough to have sex with a guy 7 years older.

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#30 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I honestly couldn't care less about this.. What he did wasn't illegal in New York if the sex was consenual.. Move on.. He is only like 22 or 23 to boot too.

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#31 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

Fuhgeddabouditt

hes young too and met her @ a club where you would assume there are 20s in there. Have you seen her picture? Have you been to clubs lately? Girls these days look OLD and are very good at fooling. For all we know, they might have done nothing (sex). And lastly, its LEGAL. No big deal :(

1. He is in his mid 20's (two years out of college) and she is a HS chick
2. I go out every weekend
3. They did have sex according to her (did you read the linked article)
4. It is a big deal (as seen by media coverage...even ESPN covered it, and they never cover this stuff first [fear of litigation])
-you can't say what you would do...or what would be a big deal for you b/c you are not an NFL star with so much to lose (get sued, jail if she was not legal age, endorsement money, etc)
-it was a VERY stupid move for someone in his position

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#32 xTheExploited
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Well considering he is in the public eye like that it is kind of a dumb move but personally I don't really care, he's onl 24, she's 17, she's old enough to handle her own situat¡ons.

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I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

rawsavon

I agree. You can argue about whether it's ethical or not, that's not really the point. He hooked up with a girl who is still in high school. If he didn't know how old she was, that's HIS fault. He showed poor judgment and has nobody to blame but himself.

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#34 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

rawsavon

hes young too and met her @ a club where you would assume there are 20s in there. Have you seen her picture? Have you been to clubs lately? Girls these days look OLD and are very good at fooling. For all we know, they might have done nothing (sex). And lastly, its LEGAL. No big deal :(

1. He is in his mid 20's (two years out of college) and she is a HS chick
2. I go out every weekend
3. They did have sex according to her (did you read the linked article)
4. It is a big deal (as seen by media coverage...even ESPN covered it, and they never cover this stuff first [fear of litigation])
-you can't say what you would do...or what would be a big deal for you b/c you are not an NFL star with so much to lose (get sued, jail if she was not legal age, endorsement money, etc)
-it was a VERY stupid move for someone in his position

.............. No it is not a big deal.. The media is making it a big deal.... What the heck are you talking about? Anything sensantional will get coverage, to bring ratings which is all that matters in the end.... And under New York Law she was of legal age and it was consensual.

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#35 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

Fuhgeddabouditt

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

How you know they had sex? She looks worst because she brought the attention to DEADSPIN and is now backing down because this story is laughable at best. She was most likely looking for a PAY DAY like most young *** these days but probably fount having dinner with a 17yr old is legal. Seriously, this story is almost TWO WEEKS OLD yet no one really has come down hard on him because theres really nothing there to nail him on.

Every reason you just gave illustrates why it was such a dumb move for him to even associate with a HS kid (or any girl that much younger than him).
It shows a lack of judgement and foresight on his part (not something desirable from an NFL QB).

You would think that one with so much to lose would be smarter than this. That is why he will always look worse (for being an adult and role model [no matter if he likes that role or not] and exhibiting such poor judgement)

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

frostybanana

I agree. You can argue about whether it's ethical or not, that's not really the point. He hooked up with a girl who is still in high school. If he didn't know how old she was, that's HIS fault. He showed poor judgment and has nobody to blame but himself.

...... She is 17, that is the legal age of consent in New York..

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#37 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

All she wants is attention, thats the reason why she contacted DEADSPIN but is now backing down. Shes the one that will look the worst in all of this or her parents, not MS.

AFBrat77

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

So what if he did.....she's legal.

If they change the laws then maybe it will be considered illegal.

I'm American but we make a big deal out of nothing here. We're brainwashed to think that a 16 year old that has probably been through "the change of life" for at least 4 years has no clue what is going on. She's not 10 for chrissakes.

If a gal is old enough to make decisions on the road driving, she's old enough to have sex with a guy 7 years older.

I am not making a big deal out of it...nor I have said anything about it being ethically/morally right or not.
What I am arguing is that given the way the public and media will react, it demonstrates extreme stupidity on his part (given everything he has to lose)

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The guy is super rich and famous. The real question is why couldn't he find a real woman instead of a kid?

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[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

Not even close.
He f***ed a HS chick. There is no way she will look worse

rawsavon

So what if he did.....she's legal.

If they change the laws then maybe it will be considered illegal.

I'm American but we make a big deal out of nothing here. We're brainwashed to think that a 16 year old that has probably been through "the change of life" for at least 4 years has no clue what is going on. She's not 10 for chrissakes.

If a gal is old enough to make decisions on the road driving, she's old enough to have sex with a guy 7 years older.

I am not making a big deal out of it...nor I have said anything about it being ethically/morally right or not.
What I am arguing is that given the way the public and media will react, it demonstrates extreme stupidity on his part (given everything he has to lose)

..... Or it shows that we are too obsessed with the goings on of sports stars.. Where any amount of mistakes or idiot moves they do is plastered on the board for our amusment.. The fact of the matter this is trivial, and discussing more is only promoting that this is a big deal.. When its not.

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] hes young too and met her @ a club where you would assume there are 20s in there. Have you seen her picture? Have you been to clubs lately? Girls these days look OLD and are very good at fooling. For all we know, they might have done nothing (sex). And lastly, its LEGAL. No big deal :(

sSubZerOo

1. He is in his mid 20's (two years out of college) and she is a HS chick
2. I go out every weekend
3. They did have sex according to her (did you read the linked article)
4. It is a big deal (as seen by media coverage...even ESPN covered it, and they never cover this stuff first [fear of litigation])
-you can't say what you would do...or what would be a big deal for you b/c you are not an NFL star with so much to lose (get sued, jail if she was not legal age, endorsement money, etc)
-it was a VERY stupid move for someone in his position

.............. No it is not a big deal.. The media is making it a big deal.... What the heck are you talking about? Anything sensantional will get coverage, to bring ratings which is all that matters in the end.... And under New York Law she was of legal age and it was consensual.

What the heck are you talking about?
How can you say it is not a big deal for him...this will be a huge deal for him.
It will cost him quite a bit when it comes to his image (current and future endorsements).

His act was extremely stupid (given his position and what he has to lose).
When you get the benefits of being rich and famous, you also get the drawbacks...and, as such, he needs to make better life choices to protect himself

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#41 weezyfb
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she is 17 so its fine

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#42 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="AFBrat77"]

So what if he did.....she's legal.

If they change the laws then maybe it will be considered illegal.

I'm American but we make a big deal out of nothing here. We're brainwashed to think that a 16 year old that has probably been through "the change of life" for at least 4 years has no clue what is going on. She's not 10 for chrissakes.

If a gal is old enough to make decisions on the road driving, she's old enough to have sex with a guy 7 years older.

sSubZerOo

I am not making a big deal out of it...nor I have said anything about it being ethically/morally right or not.
What I am arguing is that given the way the public and media will react, it demonstrates extreme stupidity on his part (given everything he has to lose)

..... Or it shows that we are too obsessed with the goings on of sports stars.. Where any amount of mistakes or idiot moves they do is plastered on the board for our amusment.. The fact of the matter this is trivial, and discussing more is only promoting that this is a big deal.. When its not.

1. Legality does not determine if something is a 'big deal'
-public opinion does...does it matter to people
(speeding versus this for example)
-this issue is a big deal b/c it matters to people (in general)...we do not reflect the media, the media reflects us

2. By participating in this thread are you not making the issue worse?...thereby working against your position ITT

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This brings up the point of the age of consent. Say it's 16. And a girl is 16 years and 1 day old, is she that much more mature than a girl who is 15 years and 364 days old? POST SCRIPT: I'm not defending or condoning the smashing of underage girls...just questioning the concept of the age of consent.FragStains

Of course everything varies on an individual level, unfortunately that's not how the law works. If it did it'd be horribly inefficient and less fair (this is assuming optimal circumstances).

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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

I just think this shows and incredible lack of judgment and maturity (not what you want from your NFL QB).
-he can basically have almost any girl in NY (NFL QB + good looking)
-but hechose todo something that would cause a s***storm like this...dumb move
(unless people here are actually going to try and say this will lead to some great long-term relationship)

rawsavon

hes young too and met her @ a club where you would assume there are 20s in there. Have you seen her picture? Have you been to clubs lately? Girls these days look OLD and are very good at fooling. For all we know, they might have done nothing (sex). And lastly, its LEGAL. No big deal :(

1. He is in his mid 20's (two years out of college) and she is a HS chick
2. I go out every weekend
3. They did have sex according to her (did you read the linked article)
4. It is a big deal (as seen by media coverage...even ESPN covered it, and they never cover this stuff first [fear of litigation])
-you can't say what you would do...or what would be a big deal for you b/c you are not an NFL star with so much to lose (get sued, jail if she was not legal age, endorsement money, etc)
-it was a VERY stupid move for someone in his position

But the thing is that she is of LEGAL AGE so why the rage (that rhythms :P) ? Seriously, you will see this die by the middle of next week and the majority will move on from it. Because its not like MS didnt have a rep of going after woman. People know that, woman know that yet they still flock to him. Hes young and attractive and its your opinion what he did was a stupid. According to Mark himself, he did not know she was 17!

As for ESPN, they cover everything. From Favre driving a white truck to a airport to LBJ shoes.

Also, ATTENTION WHORES have no credibility. Shes going all goo goo ga ga. Did you read her Facebook, seen the pictures. She thinks shes the ****, in the spotlight and is IT. All shes here for is "look @ me" and we, sadly are giving her attention. For all we know, maybe what she said did not go down. Hooking up can be interpreted into many things :P

But even if you dont agree with that fine, there will also be a large group who will take offense to this. Its ok. But to many, this is not a big deal because he met her in a club, shes legal (is she even legal to be in the club), he showed her his crib, and thats that. He has a social life. Good for him.

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The guy is super rich and famous. The real question is why couldn't he find a real woman instead of a kid?

Pirate700

He prefers them younger but legal probably. Legally she isn't a kid when it comes to sex.

Not a big deal. We can't decide for him what his tastes in women are. We don't have that right.

For all we know he hooked up with a 30 year old the next night. Thats his business as long as he stays within the constraints of the law.

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girl couldn't keep her trap shut on fb.. time to ditch her..
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This brings up the point of the age of consent. Say it's 16. And a girl is 16 years and 1 day old, is she that much more mature than a girl who is 15 years and 364 days old? POST SCRIPT: I'm not defending or condoning the smashing of underage girls...just questioning the concept of the age of consent.FragStains

Is an 18 year old that much more mature than when she was 17 years 364 days?

The line needs to be drawn somewhere and its 16. If you live in a state thats under 18 (and most are, some are even 13 or 14, which in my opinion IS too young, but its the law), why not protest?

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[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] hes young too and met her @ a club where you would assume there are 20s in there. Have you seen her picture? Have you been to clubs lately? Girls these days look OLD and are very good at fooling. For all we know, they might have done nothing (sex). And lastly, its LEGAL. No big deal :(

Fuhgeddabouditt

1. He is in his mid 20's (two years out of college) and she is a HS chick
2. I go out every weekend
3. They did have sex according to her (did you read the linked article)
4. It is a big deal (as seen by media coverage...even ESPN covered it, and they never cover this stuff first [fear of litigation])
-you can't say what you would do...or what would be a big deal for you b/c you are not an NFL star with so much to lose (get sued, jail if she was not legal age, endorsement money, etc)
-it was a VERY stupid move for someone in his position

But the thing is that she is of LEGAL AGE so why the rage (that rhythms :P) ? Seriously, you will see this die by the middle of next week and the majority will move on from it. Because its not like MS didnt have a rep of going after woman. People know that, woman know that yet they still flock to him. Hes young and attractive and its your opinion what he did was a stupid. According to Mark himself, he did not know she was 17!

As for ESPN, they cover everything. From Favre driving a white truck to a airport to LBJ shoes.

Also, ATTENTION WHORES have no credibility. Shes going all goo goo ga ga. Did you read her Facebook, seen the pictures. She thinks shes the ****, in the spotlight and is IT. All shes here for is "look @ me" and we, sadly are giving her attention. For all we know, maybe what she said did not go down. Hooking up can be interpreted into many things :P

But even if you dont agree with that fine, there will also be a large group who will take offense to this. Its ok. But to many, this is not a big deal because he met her in a club, shes legal (is she even legal to be in the club), he showed her his crib, and thats that. He has a social life. Good for him.

No one is talking about his rep with ladies at the club...that will not change unless he is seen as a rapist or something
-no one cares about that
What we are talking about is his image or 'brand' on a national level (his current and future sponsorships)
-if this costs him one deal, then it was a bad move
-also, it could have been much worse (HS girl cries 'rape')...just think how bad that would be for him (even if proven false, it never really goes away)
-that is why it was so damn stupid for him to do

ESPN DOES NOT usually cover stuff like this first b/c of legal concerns
-they will cover dumb stuff first (like Favre coming or going)
-but they did not cover big Ben, Kobe, or Favre's woman issues first even though they knew about it (and they have been crticized for this stance)

Her credibility does not matter.
-the public would just see a poor little HS girl (if she chose to portray herself that way)
-she has nothing to lose, he has everything...that is why it was dumb

I don't care about his social life. He is free to do what he wants.
But he has to know where he stands, what he has to lose, and be prepared to pay the price for his choices.
I would not want him to bepart of a team I support...not b/c he banged a HS chick...but b/c he was dumb enough to do it

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#49 Fuhgeddabouditt
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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

1. He is in his mid 20's (two years out of college) and she is a HS chick
2. I go out every weekend
3. They did have sex according to her (did you read the linked article)
4. It is a big deal (as seen by media coverage...even ESPN covered it, and they never cover this stuff first [fear of litigation])
-you can't say what you would do...or what would be a big deal for you b/c you are not an NFL star with so much to lose (get sued, jail if she was not legal age, endorsement money, etc)
-it was a VERY stupid move for someone in his position

rawsavon

But the thing is that she is of LEGAL AGE so why the rage (that rhythms :P) ? Seriously, you will see this die by the middle of next week and the majority will move on from it. Because its not like MS didnt have a rep of going after woman. People know that, woman know that yet they still flock to him. Hes young and attractive and its your opinion what he did was a stupid. According to Mark himself, he did not know she was 17!

As for ESPN, they cover everything. From Favre driving a white truck to a airport to LBJ shoes.

Also, ATTENTION WHORES have no credibility. Shes going all goo goo ga ga. Did you read her Facebook, seen the pictures. She thinks shes the ****, in the spotlight and is IT. All shes here for is "look @ me" and we, sadly are giving her attention. For all we know, maybe what she said did not go down. Hooking up can be interpreted into many things :P

But even if you dont agree with that fine, there will also be a large group who will take offense to this. Its ok. But to many, this is not a big deal because he met her in a club, shes legal (is she even legal to be in the club), he showed her his crib, and thats that. He has a social life. Good for him.

No one is talking about his rep with ladies at the club...that will not change unless he is seen as a rapist or something
-no one cares about that
What we are talking about is his image or 'brand' on a national level (his current and future sponsorships)
-if this costs him one deal, then it was a bad move
-also, it could have been much worse (HS girl cries 'rape')...just think how bad that would be for him (even if proven false, it never really goes away)
-that is why it was so damn stupid for him to do

ESPN DOES NOT usually cover stuff like this first b/c of legal concerns
-they will cover dumb stuff first (like Favre coming or going)
-but they did not cover big Ben, Kobe, or Favre's woman issues first even though they knew about it (and they have been crticized for this stance)

Her credibility does not matter.
-the public would just see a poor little HS girl (if she chose to portray herself that way)
-she has nothing to lose, he has everything...that is why it was dumb

I don't care about his social life. He is free to do what he wants.
But he has to know where he stands, what he has to lose, and be prepared to pay the price for his choices.
I would not want him to bepart of a team I support...not b/c he banged a HS chick...but b/c he was dumb enough to do it

but it wont, it wont cost him a damn thing. And no, the public wont look at a 17 year old whos smoking in one picture and who has sketchy comments on a FACEBOOK/Myspace page, who, for all we know might have entered a club illegally ,innocently :lol:. They wont. And say if she did, the one who might get the bad end of the stick is the club owner. Again, its the bouncers job to check ID. I'd assume everyone is in their 20s if im in a 21 club. She wants the attention, she'll get it. And I have yet to read where he said he banged the chick. I havent read it. All ive read is a ditsy chick whos foaming at the mouth because shes going to be in the papers.

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What was she doing in a club anyway?