Same for me. Worked full time and went to class full time and still partied a few times a week. ...college is about more than what you learn in the classroom (things like time management). College is also not 'for' everyone, nor was it ever intended to be. It loses almost all value the moment it becomes 'for' everyone. Though this is rarely about ability and more to do with desire. So just b/c it is not right for someone right now does not mean this will always be the case
Don't be one of those kids who watches netflix all afternoon or sleeps and then complains about a lot of homework at night. Those kind of people upset me.
Don't be one of those kids who watches netflix all afternoon or sleeps and then complains about a lot of homework at night. Those kind of people upset me.
Its not hard to do, but you find yourself with very little free time. For most people, the ones that just want to party, I wouldnt reccomend having a job in college. You cant have both and party all the time. (Ive known numerous people that have dropped out because they party too much)
, I wouldnt reccomend having a job in college. You cant have both and party all the time.Star67
And I WOULD recommend it...especially helpful in gaining employment post college (working teaches people how to function in a job setting). Not to mention that everyone I hung out with worked, went to school, and partied
[QUOTE="Star67"], I wouldnt reccomend having a job in college. You cant have both and party all the time.rawsavon
And I WOULD recommend it...especially helpful in gaining employment post college (working teaches people how to function in a job setting). Not to mention that everyone I hung out with worked, went to school, and partied He meant: the ones that just want to party, I wouldnt reccomend having a job in college.
[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Star67"], I wouldnt reccomend having a job in college. You cant have both and party all the time.Dogswithguns
And I WOULD recommend it...especially helpful in gaining employment post college (working teaches people how to function in a job setting). Not to mention that everyone I hung out with worked, went to school, and partied He meant: the ones that just want to party, I wouldnt reccomend having a job in college. If you just want to party, then why go to college and spend the money? Just work and hang out with college kids.
I only found it difficult near the end of the term when I would have several projects due around the same time. My tactic was picking classes (when possible) with time between them so I would be forced to stay on campus and it made it easier to do schoolwork. If having a job is too much for you then I'm honestly not sure how you would even survive in a job that requires college education.
[QUOTE="KlownMaster"] Some people can just go to college do well, party and not work. I'd work summers instead, and I still made dean's list. A few things... 1. I would not hire anyone that did not work while in school and going to class -it shows a great deal IMO (more than I care to elaborate on here/don't want to derail the topic) -obvious exceptions for things like a Doctor 2. Is the 'dean's list' considered an accomplishment (honest question)? -at some schools it is 3.5 and up (not an accomplishment IMO) -at some schools it is reserved for a 4.0 3. W/e it means, it would mean nothing to me (when in charge of hiring) if a person was not working at the time ...I would/have looked at it like this: How could you not get all A's if you weren't working?
[QUOTE="KlownMaster"] Some people can just go to college do well, party and not work. I'd work summers instead, and I still made dean's list.rawsavon
A few things... 1. I would not hire anyone that did not work while in school and going to class -it shows a great deal IMO (more than I care to elaborate on here/don't want to derail the topic) -obvious exceptions for things like a Doctor 2. Is the 'dean's list' considered an accomplishment (honest question)? -at some schools it is 3.5 and up (not an accomplishment IMO) -at some schools it is reserved for a 4.0 3. W/e it means, it would mean nothing to me (when in charge of hiring) if a person was not working at the time ...I would/have looked at it like this: How could you not get all A's if you weren't working? doctors have to work during their studies, i forget the technical term for it, but its basically on the job training where you get pents a day at best, but its worth the later gouging you can do.
Don't be one of those kids who watches netflix all afternoon or sleeps and then complains about a lot of homework at night. Those kind of people upset me.
Wasdie
but I like watching netflix all afternoon and I never liked doing homework because it didn't make any sense when you're suppose to learn everything at school. I hope they don't expect you to take on a job in the real world and then work for no pay at home after work.
Don't be one of those kids who watches netflix all afternoon or sleeps and then complains about a lot of homework at night. Those kind of people upset me.
UniverseIX
but I like watching netflix all afternoon and I never liked doing homework because it didn't make any sense when you're suppose to learn everything at school. I hope they don't expect you to take on a job in the real world and then work for no pay at home after work.It's called unpaid overtime and many jobs require it. If you are a salaried employee get used to it.
Don't be one of those kids who watches netflix all afternoon or sleeps and then complains about a lot of homework at night. Those kind of people upset me.
thegerg
but I like watching netflix all afternoon and I never liked doing homework because it didn't make any sense when you're suppose to learn everything at school. I hope they don't expect you to take on a job in the real world and then work for no pay at home after work. It's obvious that you didn't learn much in school. Maybe you should have done more homework. how did you reach that conclusion?
Don't be one of those kids who watches netflix all afternoon or sleeps and then complains about a lot of homework at night. Those kind of people upset me.
spazzx625
but I like watching netflix all afternoon and I never liked doing homework because it didn't make any sense when you're suppose to learn everything at school. I hope they don't expect you to take on a job in the real world and then work for no pay at home after work.It's called unpaid overtime and many jobs require it. If you are a salaried employee get used to it. by many you mean only ones you're familiar with and none I am. Majority do not work that way. So what's your point?
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"] by many you mean only ones you're familiar with and none I am. I can't think of a single job that would never require someone working extra. I never said a job wouldn't require you to work extra.
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"] by many you mean only ones you're familiar with and none I am. I can't think of a single job that would never require someone working extra. I never said a job wouldn't require you to work extra. Then what are you saying? Your original statement was "I hope they don't expect you to take on a job in the real world and then work for no pay at home after work."
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"] It's obvious that you didn't learn much in school. Maybe you should have done more homework. how did you reach that conclusion? You seem to think that the word "suppose" means the same thing as the word "supposed." You seem to think that you're only supposed to learn at school, not at home. You don't seem to be able to correctly write a sentence. Don't take my post as an insult, I am simply trying to help you understand why doing homework is important. OH, I knew it would have something to do with grammatical rules. and I never said doing homework wasn't important. Where do people come up with these things? I said I liked to watch netflix in the afternoon and never liked to do homework.
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="spazzx625"] I can't think of a single job that would never require someone working extra.spazzx625
I never said a job wouldn't require you to work extra. Then what are you saying? Your original statement was "I hope they don't expect you to take on a job in the real world and then work for no pay at home after work." I was saying he shouldn't care what other people do with their time. And neither should you.
[QUOTE="KlownMaster"][QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="KlownMaster"] Some people can just go to college do well, party and not work. I'd work summers instead, and I still made dean's list. A few things... 1. I would not hire anyone that did not work while in school and going to class -it shows a great deal IMO (more than I care to elaborate on here/don't want to derail the topic) -obvious exceptions for things like a Doctor 2. Is the 'dean's list' considered an accomplishment (honest question)? -at some schools it is 3.5 and up (not an accomplishment IMO) -at some schools it is reserved for a 4.0 3. W/e it means, it would mean nothing to me (when in charge of hiring) if a person was not working at the time ...I would/have looked at it like this: How could you not get all A's if you weren't working? 1. I think doing an unpaid internship in my field was more beneficial for my resume than working a McJob. 2. Not really to me a college diploma is just a piece of paper, but I guess everyone should be working to make deans list to show you got your so called proper knowledge. 3. That is true, but then again it depends on your course, if it's something you choose to major in, you should be driven to succeed regardless of your situation. 4. I may not have answered all these properly. :P You did an unpaid internship for all 4 years for every semester :o College (aside from the rare people that are able to go just for fun/just to learn) is about securing future employment (which means impressing those in charge of hiring)
[QUOTE="thegerg"][QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"] You seem to think that the word "suppose" means the same thing as the word "supposed." You seem to think that you're only supposed to learn at school, not at home. You don't seem to be able to correctly write a sentence. Don't take my post as an insult, I am simply trying to help you understand why doing homework is important. OH, I knew it would have something to do with grammatical rules. and I never said doing homework wasn't important. Where do people come up with these things? I said I liked to watch netflix in the afternoon and never liked to do homework. You said homework doesn't make sense. I was simply explaining to you why it does make sense. yes, that's right, it doesn't make sense to me. Many people don't need to do homework to understand the material does that surprise you?
As a Computer Science student, I started university while working as a full-time software developer. It was easy cake during my first year. Second year, however, not so much. I could do it, but it was exhausting.. So I quit my job last month, and got a simpler one (working at a game store). Now I don't struggle at all, I even study at work when there are no customers around. So yeah, just get an easy job and you'll be fine.. If you can't do that then you should reconsider your choices. I'm in University taking what I'm taking for passion, not because I want a pretty paper hanging on my wall. :)
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"] You said homework doesn't make sense. I was simply explaining to you why it does make sense.thegerg
yes, that's right, it doesn't make sense to me. Many people don't need to do homework to understand the material does that surprise you? In many cases classroom instruction isn't enough (as evidenced by your posts). Also, homework isn't simply about learning what the book teaches, it's about learning dedication, how to apply yourself, and how to not **** about the little things. and the people who need to do those things can do them. But why should somebody be graded according to homework if it has no benefit to them? Because homework isnt about learning the material. It's about proving you belong to a specific work culture where you do what you're told and do it on time. And what frustrates people like wasdie is that some people have the nerve to not do things the way 'everyone is suppose to do them'.
[QUOTE="thegerg"] In many cases classroom instruction isn't enough (as evidenced by your posts). Also, homework isn't simply about learning what the book teaches, it's about learning dedication, how to apply yourself, and how to not **** about the little things.
thegerg
and the people who need to do those things can do them. But why should somebody be graded according to homework if it has no benefit to them? Because homework isnt about learning the material. It's about proving you belong to a specific work culture where do what you're told and do it on time. And what frustrates people like wasdie is that some people have the nerve to not do things the way 'everyone is suppose to do them'. they shouldn't be graded for HW that doesn't benefit them. Homework assignments, though, do benefit students. Your very post outlined a way in which it does, training people to effectively fit into a working culture. PS- The word "suppose" still doesn't mean the same thing as "supposed." I never said it can't benefit students. and I could use the word suppose wrong all day long and still be smarter than you are being right now.
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"] they shouldn't be graded for HW that doesn't benefit them. Homework assignments, though, do benefit students. Your very post outlined a way in which it does, training people to effectively fit into a working culture. PS- The word "suppose" still doesn't mean the same thing as "supposed."thegerg
I never said it can't benefit students. and I could use the word suppose wrong all day long and still be smarter than you are being right now. Haha. Personal attacks, how intelligent and constructive. Anyway, I never said that you said that homework can't benefit students. then what's the problem? why say anything like that if you weren't implying I didn't suggest something along those lines. That's been your angle the entire time. AND it wasn't a personal attack. IT was the truth. And the truth is always intelligent and constructive, but not always convienant.
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"] Haha. Personal attacks, how intelligent and constructive. Anyway, I never said that you said that homework can't benefit students.
thegerg
then what's the problem? why say anything like that if you weren't implying I didn't suggest something along those lines. That's been your angle the entire time. AND it wasn't a personal attack. IT was the truth. The problem is that you seem to want others to think that you have some authority to comment on the benefits of homework, yet it's quite obvious that you didn't even do the homework which would have benefited you. You are talking about something which you know nothing about. IF you want to talk about how great homework is I'm sure you can find a way to do that without including anything I've said. Unless you want to use me as an example, without even asking what I mean by what I'm saying before you start running off with wild assumptions. You know my post wasn't even about homework. It was about not worrying about what other people do with their time.
[QUOTE="thegerg"] The problem is that you seem to want others to think that you have some authority to comment on the benefits of homework, yet it's quite obvious that you didn't even do the homework which would have benefited you. You are talking about something which you know nothing about.thegerg
IF you want to talk about how great homework is I'm sure you can find a way to do that without including anything I've said. Unless you want to use me as an example, without even asking what I mean by what I'm saying before you start running off with wild assumptions. What assumptions have I made? You seem to be confused.
Your post was about homework, (but I like watching netflix all afternoon and I never liked doing homework because it didn't make any sense when you're suppose to learn everything at school) maybe you forgot.
my post was not about homework you assumed it was because I happened to mention it in my post.
my post was about jobs and college in response to wasdie being frustrated with people who like to watch netflix in the afternoon and hate doing homework.
[QUOTE="UniverseIX"][QUOTE="thegerg"] What assumptions have I made? You seem to be confused.
Your post was about homework, (but I like watching netflix all afternoon and I never liked doing homework because it didn't make any sense when you're suppose to learn everything at school) maybe you forgot.
thegerg
my post was not about homework you assumed it was because I happened to mention it in my post. Your post was about homework. You may have been commenting on other things as well, but it was also about homework. so you want to take my post out of context
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