John McCain: Palin can beat Obama in 2012.

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#1 DroidPhysX
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As speculation swirls over whether former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will enter the race for the 2012 presidential campaign, former 2008 Republican presidential candidate Senator John McCain (AZ) said this morning that he thinks Palin can win in a race against President Obama in 2012.

"Of course, she can," Senator John McCain made said on "Fox News Sunday" this morning. "She can. Now, whether she will or not, whether she'll even run or not, I don't know."

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D*** it Droid, I was hoping we could let this one slip by without a discussion :P
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*** it Droid, I was hoping we could let this one slip by without a discussion :Pmattbbpl

Not on my watch!:twisted:

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D*** it Droid, I was hoping we could let this one slip by without a discussion :Pmattbbpl
Not a chance in hell that was going to happen. :P
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#6 Ultimas_Blade
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Bwahaha, please by all means I hope conservatives follow up with this line of thought. Obama would win by a LANDSLIDE that would turn the House and the Senate bluer than 2008.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]*** it Droid, I was hoping we could let this one slip by without a discussion :PDroidPhysX

Not on my watch!:twisted:

Haha, OK, I'll bite.

I think the idea that Palin can beat Obama in a general election (barring some tragedy in the next 18 months) is ludicrous.Over 55 percent of Americans view her unfavorably while slightly over a third view her favorably. She's appeals to the lunatic fringe of her party, while the independents and moderates want nothing to do with her.

By all means, I hope Republicans vote for her in the primary. I won't bat an eye. However, I think deep down they know better.

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#8 JML897
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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick

Why not? Hilary was the favorite for a long time before the 08 election.

If we're ready for a black president we're ready for a female one. Sarah Palin won't be it though, she alienates too many moderates.

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and then the world will end

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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick
idc if it's a woman i just don't want a crazy woman.

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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick

We're ready for a female President. We're just not (or will we ever be) ready for Sarah Palin as President :P

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#12 HexedPelican
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McCain is insane, Palin would make a terrible president. If she would get the nod by the GOP I would vote for Obama.
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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.CycleOfViolence

We're ready for a female President. We're just not (or will we ever be) ready for Sarah Palin as President :P

We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet.
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#14 CycleOfViolence
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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.mrmusicman247

We're ready for a female President. We're just not (or will we ever be) ready for Sarah Palin as President :P

We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet.

AIPAC is :P.

But seriously I think a strong female candidate could win a presidential election. Unfortunatley the two potential GOP offerings, Bachmann and Palin don't fit the criteria.

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#15 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I don't think she'll run, but maybe, it could happen.

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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="magicalclick"]I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.mrmusicman247

We're ready for a female President. We're just not (or will we ever be) ready for Sarah Palin as President :P

We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet.

Really? After we've just elected the first Black President there is still doubt about the possibilities in our country. *sigh*

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We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet. mrmusicman247

I think certain groups of voters would be more irked at a gay or atheist candidate.

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#18 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

We're ready for a female President. We're just not (or will we ever be) ready for Sarah Palin as President :P

Ultimas_Blade

We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet.

Really? After we've just elected the first Black President there is still doubt about the possibilities in our country. *sigh*

I'm not saying it's not possible. But the country isn't ready yet.
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet. CycleOfViolence

I think certain groups of voters would be more irked at a gay or atheist candidate.

Two of the unwritten requirements to be a president:

  1. You have to be a heterosexual
  2. You have to have strong Christian faith
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet. CycleOfViolence

I think certain groups of voters would be more irked at a gay or atheist candidate.

Very true.
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I don't think she'll run, but maybe, it could happen.

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I was convinced weeks ago that she wasn't going to run. But now she seems to be making slight moves in preparing herself for an official candidacy. I guess current speculation is that she'll try to time it with the upcoming documentary about her.
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I didn't know she was gonna run? I think she would be a terrible president, I would hope other people agree.
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I was convinced weeks ago that she wasn't going to run. But now she seems to be making slight moves in preparing herself for an official candidacy. I guess current speculation is that she'll try to time it with the upcoming documentary about her.mattbbpl

Even if she does, it won't matter. I guarantee it's going to be either Romney, Pawlenty or Huntsman who win the primary nomination. I'm hoping Huntsman does because I think he can sway a lot of moderate Dems and independents.

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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet. DroidPhysX

I think certain groups of voters would be more irked at a gay or atheist candidate.

Two of the unwritten requirements to be a president:

  1. You have to be a heterosexual
  2. You have to have strong Christian faith

It's quite sad when you think about it that certain people operate with a mindset that would prevent them from voting for a candidate solely based on faith or sexual orientation.

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#25 GabuEx
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Palin could theoretically win the Republican nomination, although it's unlikely.

I don't think it's even theoretically possible that Palin could win the general election against Obama.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]We're not even ready for a Jewish President yet. CycleOfViolence

I think certain groups of voters would be more irked at a gay or atheist candidate.

Aren't atheists the single most disliked groups in the US?

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There really should be a law barring old, senile men from holding public office. First Storm Thurmond (who didn't retire from politics until his funeral) and now Mr. McCain is losing it :P

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]I was convinced weeks ago that she wasn't going to run. But now she seems to be making slight moves in preparing herself for an official candidacy. I guess current speculation is that she'll try to time it with the upcoming documentary about her.airshocker

Even if she does, it won't matter. I guarantee it's going to be either Romney, Pawlenty or Huntsman who win the primary nomination. I'm hoping Huntsman does because I think he can sway a lot of moderate Dems and independents.

If Palin and Bachmann both run, that will be good news for Romney as they can split the fringe vote. I don't think Pawlenty has much of a chance in the general election either way. I don't know much about Huntsman, although I know you've mentioned him before (he's you're favorite, if I recall correctly).
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@ Matt & airshocker

Well if Rick Perry decides to run, i would pencil him as the favorite win the nomination.

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If Palin and Bachmann both run, that will be good news for Romney as they can split the fringe vote. I don't think Pawlenty has much of a chance in the general election either way. I don't know much about Huntsman, although I know you've mentioned him before (he's you're favorite, if I recall correctly).mattbbpl

Mitch Daniels was my favorite, and he chose not to run. I liked his stance on having a truce over social issues. I like Pawlenty a lot, but I think Huntsman has the best shot. He's mostly a moderate on social issues(for civil unions and pro-life), he kept Utah financially stable, was a businessman, has the capital to go toe to toe with Obama, isn't boring, and is hella' smart.

Romney is too much of a flip-flopper for me, so I won't be voting for him in the primary.

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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

@ Matt & airshocker

Well if Rick Perry decides to run, i would pencil him as the favorite win the nomination.

He claims he's not going to run. Think that turns out to be the case, or do you think he'll throw his hat in the ring after all?
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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick

The only reason why we don't have a female President now is because Barack was the better Canidate. If Hilary Clinton had won the Demo primary, I have no doubt she would of beaten McCain.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]If Palin and Bachmann both run, that will be good news for Romney as they can split the fringe vote. I don't think Pawlenty has much of a chance in the general election either way. I don't know much about Huntsman, although I know you've mentioned him before (he's you're favorite, if I recall correctly).airshocker

Mitch Daniels was my favorite, and he chose not to run. I liked his stance on having a truce over social issues. I like Pawlenty a lot, but I think Huntsman has the best shot. He's mostly a moderate on social issues(for civil unions and pro-life), he kept Utah financially stable, was a businessman, has the capital to go toe to toe with Obama, isn't boring, and is hella' smart.

Romney is too much of a flip-flopper for me, so I won't be voting for him in the primary.

Oh, right. Daniels. Got the two mixed up, I think.
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#34 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

@ Matt & airshocker

Well if Rick Perry decides to run, i would pencil him as the favorite win the nomination.

He claims he's not going to run. Think that turns out to be the case, or do you think he'll throw his hat in the ring after all?

Well Perry said a few days ago that he would "consider" running. So i don't know.
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[QUOTE="magicalclick"]I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.Blue-Sky

The only reason why we don't have a female President now is because Barack was the better Canidate. If Hilary Clinton had won the Demo primary, I have no doubt she would of beaten McCain.

Given how popular Bill was (and still is) it wouldnt be close.
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If Palin gets in I will actually lol In fact, if she does, I can safely say the entire world will lol
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I doubt people are ready for a female president just yet.magicalclick

Nah, the country was ready for a female president before it was ready for a black president. The black guy just happened to be the stronger candidate last time.

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I don't know if the world is being serious any more. :(
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I don't know if the world is being serious any more. :(Ninja-Hippo

Well to be serious for one moment, McCain and Palin have watched closely not to stab one another politcally after loosing 2008. Holding fast to Saint Reagan's "Thou shalt not speak ill of other Republicans." You see how bad Gingrich got trashed for speaking the truth, if McCain did the same they'd be on him like stink on s***.

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Oh, right. Daniels. Got the two mixed up, I think.mattbbpl

Not surprising. You'd be hard-pressed to tell the two apart if you don't want Fox News.

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I'll vote for her if she gives me some head.

Other than that, nobody gun vote for her.

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If she wins i will have lost all faith in America.
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Obama is doing so terribly that I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.
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Obama is doing so terribly that I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.Solid_Snake325

troll much?

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troll much?

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You think he's doing good? :|

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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]Obama is doing so terribly that I wouldn't be shocked if it happened.Blue-Sky

troll much?

Also, his poll numbers are higher than any recent president this time through his presidency.
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[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

troll much?

You think he's doing good? :|

He's not doing exactly what I'd like him to be doing, but he's certainly doing better than any GOP platform I've heard proposed recently.
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

troll much?

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You think he's doing good? :|

I think he's doing well within in the confines of what he's allowed to do.

The problem with Americans is their idea of what the President can do is unrealistic. They don't understand our Government. I've seen people go "Obama isn't doing anything so I'm voting Republican" The republicans go "Our #1 Priority is to stop Obama from doing anything" - Do you see the circle?

The problem with America in general, isn't the Executive branch. I think President is fine. What needs to change is our congress and senate.

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He's not doing exactly what I'd like him to be doing, but he's certainly doing better than any GOP platform I've heard proposed recently.mattbbpl

The GOP hasn't suggested policy that makes business crap itself(cap and trade, forms for sales over a certain amount, etc). Our unemployment is at 9%. The GOP has nothing to do with that.

I suppose it's subjective, depending on what your priorities are, but he's not doing so well in my book.

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[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]He's not doing exactly what I'd like him to be doing, but he's certainly doing better than any GOP platform I've heard proposed recently.airshocker

I don't hear any GOP platform praising 9% unemployment. The GOP also hasn't suggest policy that makes business crap itself(cap and trade, forms for sales over a certain amount, etc).

I suppose it's subjective, depending on what your priorities are, but he's not doing so well in my book.

Wasnt Cap and trade a GOP idea originally?