John McCain wouldn't be a "third term of President Bush."

John McCain has already won the election. Obama and Clinton are driving each other in the ground. Obama has won the nomination but Clinton refuses to believe that. So, now she's gonna keep going til it's over and bashing Obama and by the time the election comes, all the Clinton supporters will still hate Obama. And if they hate Obama, well, obviously they are not gonna be voting for him. So who's left on the ballot? Oh, look, this John McCain fellow. Ok, sure.

The only way the democrats have a chance of winning is if Clinton drops out now and endorses Obama. Otherwise, McCain is already the next president.

John McCain has already won the election. Obama and Clinton are driving each other in the ground. Obama has won the nomination but Clinton refuses to believe that. So, now she's gonna keep going til it's over and bashing Obama and by the time the election comes, all the Clinton supporters will still hate Obama. And if they hate Obama, well, obviously they are not gonna be voting for him. So who's left on the ballot? Oh, look, this John McCain fellow. Ok, sure.

The only way the democrats have a chance of winning is if Clinton drops out now and endorses Obama. Otherwise, McCain is already the next president.

nintendorocks

I am afraid of that. What if Clinton accepts the position of Obama's running mate? I think Obama may ask her, but not sure if she would accept.

That may be their only chance at this point, sadly. Another election virtually handed to them, and they blow it again!!!

Hey Engrish_Major,

What do you believe in?

Hey Engrish_Major,

What do you believe in?

MayorJohnny

In what context? That's a pretty broad question... do you mean politically?

Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.famicommander

It irritates me when people can't see that McCain would be another 4 years of Bush. Most of his policies are the same. Persoanlly I would have voted for him in the 2000 election, but now I can't stand him. 1) Because of his views on Iraq. 2)Because his views on a national healthcare program are "more of the same" 3. I don't trust him because what he supports now is much different than what he supported in 2000. 4) He's got anger issues. and 5) I love my country dearly and something needs to change. Our current road is leading to disaster and if something doesn't change soon, we're screwed.

[QUOTE="bman784"]Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What make you think that McCain will be different?famicommander

Quess what? The reality is that this is the first time in history that we've been involved in a major war and NOT raised taxes. Where do you think the money to bomb Iraq is coming from? It's coming from our education system, social services, support for our vets, and from borrowing MORE money from foreign countries. So tell me, how do you suppose we fight two wars without raising taxes?

asl;dfkjsdf

Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What makes you think that McCain will be different?bman784

Sure and lets bring in a democrat who is all about just giving the money away to everyone who abuses the system, do you realize that 44% of the this so called budget that the government goes by is spent on social secuirty and other such abusing programs such as welfare? What do democrats do? Help those people who abuse those programs. So lets go bring a democrat in and watch taxes go up, and watch more people mooch off your hard working tax dollars. Makes sence, :roll:

[QUOTE="bman784"]Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What makes you think that McCain will be different?xscrapzx

Sure and lets bring in a democrat who is all about just giving the money away to everyone who abuses the system, do you realize that 44% of the this so called budget that the government goes by is spent on social secuirty and other such abusing programs such as welfare? What do democrats do? Help those people who abuse those programs. So lets go bring a democrat in and watch taxes go up, and watch more people mooch off your hard working tax dollars. Makes sence, :roll:

44%. Link? Of course the social programs are abused. And guess what? the rich abuse their powers as well. The middle calss is the one being pulled in two directions, and IMO, Democrats support the middle class more than the Republicans. Further, and again this is my opinion, but I'd rather help the poor than see the rich get richer.

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

Hey Engrish_Major,

What do you believe in?

Engrish_Major

In what context? That's a pretty broad question... do you mean politically?

Anything and eveything. What is your world view? What made you believe the way that you do?

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

Hey Engrish_Major,

What do you believe in?

MayorJohnny

In what context? That's a pretty broad question... do you mean politically?

Anything and eveything. What is your world view? What made you believe the way you do?

I'm not sure why I believe what I do. But I don't believe that any religion knows the answers to what happens after you die, therefore, our time here is precious and short. In that, the government's duty is to protect us not only physically, but economically as well, which means from corporations willing to milk us for all we've got. It should also give us equal opportunity to succeed from the time we are born (and I know that some people mooch off of the system, but it is for the good of society as a whole to provide that opportunity to all nonetheless). I also believe that way too much money and talent is spent on warfare and not enough on energy and food. I think we could have solved those cryses (sp?) by now if we had really tried.

I guess that kind of sums it up...

Just because the person is in the same party as a bad president, doesn't mean that they are going to be the same. I don't support any of the nominees, but if I had to choose I would support McCain over Obama.... or Hilary if you still consider her to be in "this". Obama might have some great ideas, but unlike McCain he doesn't have the experience.

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.MayorJohnny

Actually, more people are worried that John McCain has similar beliefs to Bush or that they're too friendly than worry that Obama and Wright share similar beliefs or are too friendly.

Heh, and it seems that a lot of liberals don't care that Obama's mentor is a radical racist. Yet many conservatives are called "bigots" without any proof. Hypocracy.

No, its the other way around. People freaked out over Wright (passing "Britney Level Freakage"), yet nobody commented on McCain's reverend, the guy who said that feminists and Paegans caused 9/11.

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

Hey Engrish_Major,

What do you believe in?

Engrish_Major

In what context? That's a pretty broad question... do you mean politically?

Anything and eveything. What is your world view? What made you believe the way you do?

I'm not sure why I believe what I do. But I don't believe that any religion knows the answers to what happens after you die, therefore, our time here is precious and short. In that, the government's duty is to protect us not only physically, but economically as well, which means from corporations willing to milk us for all we've got. It should also give us equal opportunity to succeed from the time we are born (and I know that some people mooch off of the system, but it is for the good of society as a whole to provide that opportunity to all nonetheless). I also believe that way too much money and talent is spent on warfare and not enough on energy and food. I think we could have solved those cryses (sp?) by now if we had really tried.

I guess that kind of sums it up...

Okay, thanks. How long have you beleived this?

I simply want to know because I analyze conservatism and liberalism a lot and I'm interested in what makes people tick.

Maybe you want to know exactly what I believe?

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

Hey Engrish_Major,

What do you believe in?

Engrish_Major

In what context? That's a pretty broad question... do you mean politically?

Anything and eveything. What is your world view? What made you believe the way you do?

I'm not sure why I believe what I do. But I don't believe that any religion knows the answers to what happens after you die, therefore, our time here is precious and short. In that, the government's duty is to protect us not only physically, but economically as well, which means from corporations willing to milk us for all we've got. It should also give us equal opportunity to succeed from the time we are born (and I know that some people mooch off of the system, but it is for the good of society as a whole to provide that opportunity to all nonetheless). I also believe that way too much money and talent is spent on warfare and not enough on energy and food. I think we could have solved those cryses (sp?) by now if we had really tried.

I guess that kind of sums it up...

Just out of curiousity, what is your view on those who are in the military or plan on joining the military, and have no reservations about fighting in afghanistan or Iraq? There is a growing belief among republicans, most likely a baseless stereotype (but it doesnt help with some of the dems youhave opening their mouths of tv) that democrats do not approve of the military and believe they are mindless drones who only joined the military because they were poor or uneducated and had no other choice.

Okay, thanks. How long have you beleived this?

I simply want to know because I analyze conservatism and liberalism a lot and I'm interested in what makes people tick.

Maybe you want to know exactly what I believe?

MayorJohnny

I guess I started to get interested in what was going on outside of my own head around 9/11, and started to analyze what caused these problems. I did not believe the president's "they hate us for our freedom" speech, and started to go deeper into what could have been done to keep this from happening.

Sure, what makes you tick?

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What makes you think that McCain will be different?Eddie5vs1

Sure and lets bring in a democrat who is all about just giving the money away to everyone who abuses the system, do you realize that 44% of the this so called budget that the government goes by is spent on social secuirty and other such abusing programs such as welfare? What do democrats do? Help those people who abuse those programs. So lets go bring a democrat in and watch taxes go up, and watch more people mooch off your hard working tax dollars. Makes sence, :roll:

44%. Link? Of course the social programs are abused. And guess what? the rich abuse their powers as well. The middle calss is the one being pulled in two directions, and IMO, Democrats support the middle class more than the Republicans. Further, and again this is my opinion, but I'd rather help the poor than see the rich get richer.

There are going to be two things that are going to kill this country economically and one of them is definately not going to be any war. Its going to be healthcare and social security.

Change sounds good to me. McCain looks like he's going to die any moment and the republicans are always saying the same exact things to win votes. They are the reason why the country is in the state that it is in now. The country is in need and things need to change FAST. At first I liked Billery, then I lost respect for her when she started doing the crying game. I can't vote for a person who is going to cry when things get tough, especially in these times. She needs to stop attacking Obama with non-related issues and focus on making the country better. She has proven to me how immature she can be. She dosen't care about the dems, If she dosen't win she dosen't want Obama to win either, what a real dem she is, huh. Billery talks out the side of her face way too much for me. Kudos to Obama for handling her with professionalism. I don't see Obama losing to these candiates, but i do see a lot of true colors showing since he's been in the race for the white house.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]People keep saying McCain "is not another Bush" but fail to convince me why. No way in hell I am voting for him.MarineJcksn

they only say that because of the war, which is the only thing Bush is known for. Just because McCain supports the way doesnt mean he will be the same as Bush.

It is the war and the same economic policy. We are going downhill, why would we want to continue? Obama is going to take money from the war (as well as former tax cuts from the rich) and put it into rebuilding our infrastructure while researching green energy. Why shouldn't we support that?

Engrish, this is where we disagree on our viewpoints, and I see why. You've played into their hands, They meaning the biased media and the misinformed public. People like Obama want you to associate the war in Iraq with the current economic struggles, but it just isn't that simple. We've spent roughly 600 billion on the war so far. This equates to 8/10ths of 1% of our GDP. There's a clear bias designed to indoctrinate you with disinformation about the war, to paint everything Bush as everything Bad and to prop up this empty suit named Barry Obama. He's shoveling more crap down America's throats and we're lining up at the trough asking "Please Sir, can I have some more?" How exactly is he going to fix our economy? With MORE government spending? By increasing the welfare state in America with idiocy like Socialist Healthcare, ending the Bush tax cuts, taxing the rich more, enabling the capital gains tax, etc. etc. etc. ? Where's the plan to guide America to a brighter future? Barry's more of the same garbage Washington has been pimping out to all of us for decades.:x

First, nobody has "played into their hands" any more than anyone else. Some play into the republicans hands, some play into the democrats...its just a matter of what you believe in.

As for the cost of the war, it does not matter how trivial, from a percentage standpoint, the cost has been: that is 600 billion dollars, and that is a lot of money. 600 billion dollars could do a lot for our own country, and for all practical purposes the war in Iraq is over. American money is being spent to rebuild a non-American country, and I just cant agree with that when we have problems of our own on our soil. The rest of the world needs to contribute to that area imo a lot more, and we need to contribute less (especially when it comes to the men and women serving over there).

Now I am not saying that Obama is not full of crap; he likely is. But so is McCain. Theyre politicians after all, and one way or another they will "shovel more crap down our throats". The war is likely the biggest issue people will have when it comes time to vote, and its a simple matter of whether or not one thinks it is worthwhile.

Obviously, those that support the war will vote for McCain, those that dont will support Obama, but both will promise a lot of things and wont deliver. All I ask is that you treat both candidates with similiar lack of respect :P

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.Video_Game_King

Actually, more people are worried that John McCain has similar beliefs to Bush or that they're too friendly than worry that Obama and Wright share similar beliefs or are too friendly.

Heh, and it seems that a lot of liberals don't care that Obama's mentor is a radical racist. Yet many conservatives are called "bigots" without any proof. Hypocracy.

No, its the other way around. People freaked out over Wright (passing "Britney Level Freakage"), yet nobody commented on McCain's reverend, the guy who said that feminists and Paegans caused 9/11.

I'm a Christian and I strongly disagree with that. I think that ministers have to be very careful with what they say. I also was offended when Pat Robertson said that former Israeli PM Sharon had a heart attack because he wasn't being protected by God (or something like that). These ministers aren't bad men, they just say stupid things sometimes. Instead of getting frustrated and giving their opinions, they should try to tell people the truth with compassion.

So, how is it not an issue that Rev. Wrights says that America is the "US of KKK" and that the government "created the AIDS virus" to harm black people, and implied that America got what it deserved on September 11th? Just because a couple of Christian ministers said some very stupid things?

You know that there is a liberal bias in the media. Why is that you and others can't be fair to us? You assume the worst and call us terrible names, and then you wonder why conservatives make liberals look bad? You can't expect respect when you don't give it yourselves.

Just out of curiousity, what is your view on those who are in the military or plan on joining the military, and have no reservations about fighting in afghanistan or Iraq? There is a growing belief among republicans, most likely a baseless stereotype (but it doesnt help with some of the dems youhave opening their mouths of tv) that democrats do not approve of the military and believe they are mindless drones who only joined the military because they were poor or uneducated and had no other choice.

Tolwan

To start, my father is buried in a veteran's cemetary in Crownsville, MD. Those who put on the uniform (and especially those who have served in conflicts) have been in situations and dangers that we can barely even dream of. I am honored to live among such brave men and women without which I would not be able to live comfortably in this country (and do things such as post on videogame websites :P)

To sum it up, I never begin to doubt the bravery, dedication, and selflessness of those who have signed themselves into service.

[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What makes you think that McCain will be different?xscrapzx

Sure and lets bring in a democrat who is all about just giving the money away to everyone who abuses the system, do you realize that 44% of the this so called budget that the government goes by is spent on social secuirty and other such abusing programs such as welfare? What do democrats do? Help those people who abuse those programs. So lets go bring a democrat in and watch taxes go up, and watch more people mooch off your hard working tax dollars. Makes sence, :roll:

44%. Link? Of course the social programs are abused. And guess what? the rich abuse their powers as well. The middle calss is the one being pulled in two directions, and IMO, Democrats support the middle class more than the Republicans. Further, and again this is my opinion, but I'd rather help the poor than see the rich get richer.

There are going to be two things that are going to kill this country economically and one of them is definately not going to be any war. Its going to be healthcare and social security.

Us conservatives who don't support the war are in quite a pickle right now...helium_flash

Even so, voting for a dem would be the equivelant of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Sort of like what some conservatives did in 2006, and now they all regret it, as we now have the lowest rated congress *ever*. The War is almost over anyways, according to the petrayus report we should be continuing a constant trend of troop removal from Iraq well into the election, and by then we'll be well below the troop levels we had even prior to the surge.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What makes you think that McCain will be different?Eddie5vs1

Sure and lets bring in a democrat who is all about just giving the money away to everyone who abuses the system, do you realize that 44% of the this so called budget that the government goes by is spent on social secuirty and other such abusing programs such as welfare? What do democrats do? Help those people who abuse those programs. So lets go bring a democrat in and watch taxes go up, and watch more people mooch off your hard working tax dollars. Makes sence, :roll:

44%. Link? Of course the social programs are abused. And guess what? the rich abuse their powers as well. The middle calss is the one being pulled in two directions, and IMO, Democrats support the middle class more than the Republicans. Further, and again this is my opinion, but I'd rather help the poor than see the rich get richer.

There are going to be two things that are going to kill this country economically and one of them is definately not going to be any war. Its going to be healthcare and social security.

Uh, here's one example:

America's population: Over 300 million.

Canada's population: Over 30 million.

Big difference. Let's be plausible.

All this arguing is for nothing. Like I said before, McCain has already won the election.nintendorocks

Well if a random poster on GS we might as well cancel the elections now. :) I did read your earlier post though and agreed with a lot you said. I'm concerend that you may be right in regard to the long drawn out battle between Obama and Clinton, but I hope the party can be united by the time general elections roll around.

I should also state that right or wrong, conservative or liberal, republican or democrat, it's good to see the younger generations discuss politics and state their views. Personally I'd rather talk to a passionate conservative/republican than an apathetic liberal/democrat. :)

One thing i'm learning fairly quickly is these forums have a majority of liberal/democrat and/or socialist posters. Trying to get any pro-conservative point accross is pointless in these forums, as the majority here have their own democrat agenda of their own, and will slap down anyone who goes against that. :roll:Tolwan

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Us conservatives who don't support the war are in quite a pickle right now...Tolwan

Even so, voting for a dem would be the equivelant of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Sort of like what some conservatives did in 2006, and now they all regret it, as we now have the lowest rated congress *ever*. The War is almost over anyways, according to the petrayus report we should be continuing a constant trend of troop removal from Iraq well into the election, and by then we'll be well below the troop levels we had even prior to the surge.

Times like these really make me wish Ron Paul was still around...

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.MayorJohnny

Actually, more people are worried that John McCain has similar beliefs to Bush or that they're too friendly than worry that Obama and Wright share similar beliefs or are too friendly.

Heh, and it seems that a lot of liberals don't care that Obama's mentor is a radical racist. Yet many conservatives are called "bigots" without any proof. Hypocracy.

No, its the other way around. People freaked out over Wright (passing "Britney Level Freakage"), yet nobody commented on McCain's reverend, the guy who said that feminists and Paegans caused 9/11.

I'm a Christian and I strongly disagree with that. I think that ministers have to be very careful with what they say. I also was offended when Pat Robertson said that former Israeli PM Sharon had a heart attack because he wasn't being protected by God (or something like that). These ministers aren't bad men, they just say stupid things sometimes. Instead of getting frustrated and giving their opinions, they should try to tell people the truth with compassion.

So, how is it not an issue that Rev. Wrights says that America is the "US of KKK" and that the government "created the AIDS virus" to harm black people, and implied that America got what it deserved on September 11th? Just because a couple of Christian ministers said some very stupid things?

You know that there is a liberal bias in the media. Why is that you and others can't be fair to us? You assume the worst and call us terrible names, and then you wonder why conservatives make liberals look bad? You can't expect respect when you don't give it yourselves.

I think everybody disagrees with that guy. Kind of like Jack Thompson to the Columnine Human Leeches power :P. And I don't really think they're good men who say stupid things, I just think they're idiots. Did you see post-"***damn America" Wright? He was saying a bunch of stupid racial comparisons that would have had Carlos Mencia yelling "This dedede stole my material!" And I'm not saying Wright isn't an issue (just not as important a one as people like to think), I'm saying that those other guys are. Look, I've decided to not trust the media at all, because they're too reactionary, their biases are noticeable, and it seems like they want to decide the election. Remember how they were bashing Hillary for the stupidest things in January? "Oh, look, she sits down while she pees! She's a Commie!" So? Then Obama becomes the front runner, and the media hounds him to death. "His middle name is Hussein, and he knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy................who knows a guy who knew Osama bin Laden! He's a Commie!" This is the kind of crap that has created my distrust with the news media.

Uh, here's one example:

America's population: Over 300 million.

Canada's population: Over 30 million.

Big difference. Let's be plausible.

MayorJohnny

That's not a very good example, IMO. If you had 30 milliion people supporting 300 million, it would be impossible. Canada has shown thier program works, and using your example, 30 million citizens can support a program for 30 million people. Again using your example and in the same regard, why can't 300 million citizens support national healthcare for 300 million people?

The bad thing about our current healthcare program is it's impact (again) on the middle class. For example, let's say you have Blue Cross/Blue Shield. They make a deal with your doctor that they will pay 60% of the $100 fee and you pay a $10 co-pay. Good deal all around except for the fact that insurance companies always want to make higher profits so even though you or your company pay hundreds of dollars per month, the insurance company can turn you down for anything they don't deem necessary.

Now medicaid. The government tells a medicaid provider they'll pay $55 for your appointment. Again, all well and good as taxes pay that $55.

Now the middle class, and we'll use me as an example. I have a master's degree and am working on getting licensed with a good job but not very good pay and no health insurance. When I go to the doctors I have to pay the full $100. I don't even get the same deal the doctor made with the insurance company.

Now look at national healthcare. if the government puts policies in place to reduce the cost of healthcare and only offer so much reimbursement it will work. The unfortunate reality in Aamerican is that our healthcare system could care less if we live or die, as long as they make a profit. You can go to another country get the same quality of medical service for a small fraction of the price. It will work.

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.Video_Game_King

Actually, more people are worried that John McCain has similar beliefs to Bush or that they're too friendly than worry that Obama and Wright share similar beliefs or are too friendly.

Heh, and it seems that a lot of liberals don't care that Obama's mentor is a radical racist. Yet many conservatives are called "bigots" without any proof. Hypocracy.

No, its the other way around. People freaked out over Wright (passing "Britney Level Freakage"), yet nobody commented on McCain's reverend, the guy who said that feminists and Paegans caused 9/11.

I'm a Christian and I strongly disagree with that. I think that ministers have to be very careful with what they say. I also was offended when Pat Robertson said that former Israeli PM Sharon had a heart attack because he wasn't being protected by God (or something like that). These ministers aren't bad men, they just say stupid things sometimes. Instead of getting frustrated and giving their opinions, they should try to tell people the truth with compassion.

So, how is it not an issue that Rev. Wrights says that America is the "US of KKK" and that the government "created the AIDS virus" to harm black people, and implied that America got what it deserved on September 11th? Just because a couple of Christian ministers said some very stupid things?

You know that there is a liberal bias in the media. Why is that you and others can't be fair to us? You assume the worst and call us terrible names, and then you wonder why conservatives make liberals look bad? You can't expect respect when you don't give it yourselves.

I think everybody disagrees with that guy. Kind of like Jack Thompson to the Columnine Human Leeches power :P. And I don't really think they're good men who say stupid things, I just think they're idiots. Did you see post-"***damn America" Wright? He was saying a bunch of stupid racial comparisons that would have had Carlos Mencia yelling "This dedede stole my material!" And I'm not saying Wright isn't an issue (just not as important a one as people like to think), I'm saying that those other guys are. Look, I've decided to not trust the media at all, because they're too reactionary, their biases are noticeable, and it seems like they want to decide the election. Remember how they were bashing Hillary for the stupidest things in January? "Oh, look, she sits down while she pees! She's a Commie!" So? Then Obama becomes the front runner, and the media hounds him to death. "His middle name is Hussein, and he knows a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy................who knows a guy who knew Osama bin Laden! He's a Commie!" This is the kind of crap that has created my distrust with the news media.

What exactly are you talking about? I'm just a little confused. :P

Anyway, the media gets on my nerves and makes things seem slighlty worse than they actually are. For example, everything is sensationalized. "Storms brewing in this state. Flooding problems." You would think that the storm was all over the state!

Since news is now 24/7, things are different. I wish that the news would talk more about other things other than politics or something else negative much more often.

What exactly are you talking about? I'm just a little confused. :P

Anyway, the media gets on my nerves and makes things seem slighlty worse than they actually are. For example, everything is sensationalized. "Storms brewing in this state. Flooding problems." You would think that the storm was all over the state!

News is a business, and it's 24/7. They have to make money, so they have to hook viewers. I wish tha the news would talk more about other things other than politics or something else negative much more often.

MayorJohnny

Very true. I swear, even the weather channel is doing it now. A wind gust happens and it's breaking news. Our they'll play up this huge winter storm that will cause mass panic and you get two snowflakes. That's the problem with 24 hour news.

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

What exactly are you talking about? I'm just a little confused. :P

Anyway, the media gets on my nerves and makes things seem slighlty worse than they actually are. For example, everything is sensationalized. "Storms brewing in this state. Flooding problems." You would think that the storm was all over the state!

News is a business, and it's 24/7. They have to make money, so they have to hook viewers. I wish tha the news would talk more about other things other than politics or something else negative much more often.

Eddie5vs1

Very true. I swear, even the weather channel is doing it now. A wind gust happens and it's breaking news. Our they'll play up this huge winter storm that will cause mass panic and you get two snowflakes. That's the problem with 24 hour news.

Yeah, LOL! :lol:

It's funny also on the news, that politics have become so self absorbed. It's like the anchors feel that it's some "epic battle" accross the air waves. "Teh brave journalists seek the truth as the world holds it breath." Everyone is watching, and poll numbers are so vital.

I'm fine, and I've yet to see most things as bad the media makes it out to be.

[QUOTE="helium_flash"]Us conservatives who don't support the war are in quite a pickle right now...Tolwan

Even so, voting for a dem would be the equivelant of cutting off your nose to spite your face. Sort of like what some conservatives did in 2006, and now they all regret it, as we now have the lowest rated congress *ever*. The War is almost over anyways, according to the petrayus report we should be continuing a constant trend of troop removal from Iraq well into the election, and by then we'll be well below the troop levels we had even prior to the surge.

[QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

What exactly are you talking about? I'm just a little confused. :P

Anyway, the media gets on my nerves and makes things seem slighlty worse than they actually are. For example, everything is sensationalized. "Storms brewing in this state. Flooding problems." You would think that the storm was all over the state!

News is a business, and it's 24/7. They have to make money, so they have to hook viewers. I wish tha the news would talk more about other things other than politics or something else negative much more often.

MayorJohnny

Very true. I swear, even the weather channel is doing it now. A wind gust happens and it's breaking news. Our they'll play up this huge winter storm that will cause mass panic and you get two snowflakes. That's the problem with 24 hour news.

Yeah, LOL! It's funny also on the news, that politics have become so self absorbed. It's like the anchors feel that it's some "epic battle" accross the air waves. "Teh brave journalists seek the truth as the world holds it breath." Everyone is watching, and poll numbers are so vital.

I'm fine, and I've personally yet to see anything as bad the media makes it out to be.

lol, you need to edit your post or tomorrow on CNN we'll see, "the brave jounalists seek the truth as the world hold's it breath". :) God, I can see it now with the little banner flying in the back ground. No need to give them more ideas.

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

What exactly are you talking about? I'm just a little confused. :P

Anyway, the media gets on my nerves and makes things seem slighlty worse than they actually are. For example, everything is sensationalized. "Storms brewing in this state. Flooding problems." You would think that the storm was all over the state!

News is a business, and it's 24/7. They have to make money, so they have to hook viewers. I wish tha the news would talk more about other things other than politics or something else negative much more often.

Eddie5vs1

Very true. I swear, even the weather channel is doing it now. A wind gust happens and it's breaking news. Our they'll play up this huge winter storm that will cause mass panic and you get two snowflakes. That's the problem with 24 hour news.

Yeah, LOL! It's funny also on the news, that politics have become so self absorbed. It's like the anchors feel that it's some "epic battle" accross the air waves. "Teh brave journalists seek the truth as the world holds it breath." Everyone is watching, and poll numbers are so vital.

I'm fine, and I've personally yet to see anything as bad the media makes it out to be.

lol, you need to edit your post or tomorrow on CNN we'll see, "the brave jounalists seek the truth as the world hold's it breath". :) God, I can see it now with the little banner flying in the back ground. No need to give them more ideas.

LOL!!! That's a good one, dude! :lol:

All this arguing is for nothing. Like I said before, McCain has already won the election.nintendorocks

Wow I didn't know the election had already happened. :shock: Guess I must have been asleep for a while.

By the way, MarineJcksn, didn't you say you were going back to Iraq soon?Engrish_Major

Yes Sir, Engrish. I'm leaving shortly, much sooner then expected. My family's all ****ed off about it, but I wanna go back.

Cool, things can be exactly as they are now.

Wait-

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]By the way, MarineJcksn, didn't you say you were going back to Iraq soon?MarineJcksn

Yes Sir, Engrish. I'm leaving shortly, much sooner then expected. My family's all ****ed off about it, but I wanna go back.

MarineJcksn, good luck and come home safe. Thanks for doing what you do.

Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.famicommander

And I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between Obama and his pastor aren't old enough to vote.

BAM!!!

No I dont think we should stay in Iraq 100 more years or invade Iran.

Bomb bomb iran bomb bomb bomb iran.

I mean he has Henry Kissinger a war criminal supporting him for president.

That by itself is enough reason not to support him.

Remeber the keating 5 or all of john mccains lobbyist freinds?

Yeah your right, Mccain isnt a bush clone... he could be something worse.

Amineve

you are basing your reason to not like McCain off of something totally false. That 100 years in Iraq was TOTALLY taken out of context. Go look up the full quote of what he said.

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.sc_ajk29

And I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between Obama and his pastor aren't old enough to vote.

BAM!!!

The thing with Obama's pastor is a damn big deal. He went to the church for over 20 years. He knew the non sence his pastor was preaching. Obama even went as far as to call him his mentor. Wouldn't it strike a chord with you if the man's mentor is a racist? Who also had some CRAZY political talk and stances made known throughout his services? It should strike a chord with anybody.. unless you are blindly voting for Obama.