John McCain wouldn't be a "third term of President Bush."

[QUOTE="MarineJcksn"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]People keep saying McCain "is not another Bush" but fail to convince me why. No way in hell I am voting for him.mrbojangles25

First, nobody has "played into their hands" any more than anyone else. Some play into the republicans hands, some play into the democrats...its just a matter of what you believe in.

As for the cost of the war, it does not matter how trivial, from a percentage standpoint, the cost has been: that is 600 billion dollars, and that is a lot of money. 600 billion dollars could do a lot for our own country, and for all practical purposes the war in Iraq is over. American money is being spent to rebuild a non-American country, and I just cant agree with that when we have problems of our own on our soil. The rest of the world needs to contribute to that area imo a lot more, and we need to contribute less (especially when it comes to the men and women serving over there).

Now I am not saying that Obama is not full of crap; he likely is. But so is McCain. Theyre politicians after all, and one way or another they will "shovel more crap down our throats". The war is likely the biggest issue people will have when it comes time to vote, and its a simple matter of whether or not one thinks it is worthwhile.

Obviously, those that support the war will vote for McCain, those that dont will support Obama, but both will promise a lot of things and wont deliver. All I ask is that you treat both candidates with similiar lack of respect :P

You make a lot of sense to me, I respect your opinions. We definitely need the rest of the world contributing to Iraq more and not just us. The US always has to act like the world's police force because the UN is so incompetant. I respect McCain, but I can't find it in my heart to respect Hillary or Barry. I've tried, I just can't do it. Believe me, McCain is not without his faults. To all my fellow conservative and libertarians out there lets face it and admit it, Mac's no conservative. He flip flops, but never to the level of Hillary or Barry. I dunno what to do in November, I'll probably pull the lever for the lesser of 2 evils and hope for the best.

Then again, Barry with a very liberal House and Senate behind him could become an epic failure of Jimmy "President Planters" Carter like proportions. See, America hasn't faced a socialist agenda like what Barry envisions, not within our own Presidency at least. I think if he crashes and burns hard America will right herself and come up with a solution, I dunno. Maybe I'm cynical, maybe I just love my land so much I'd die before I see her fall. What do you think?

What exactly are you talking about? I'm just a little confused. :P

Anyway, the media gets on my nerves and makes things seem slighlty worse than they actually are. For example, everything is sensationalized. "Storms brewing in this state. Flooding problems." You would think that the storm was all over the state!

Since news is now 24/7, things are different. I wish that the news would talk more about other things other than politics or something else negative much more often.

MayorJohnny

I'm talking about this. Really? Marching bands? And let's ignore the fact that Kennedy was president and that you need to speak with some air of dignity within any high position of power, let's focus on the fact that he was white.

[QUOTE="sc_ajk29"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.The_Mac_Daddy

And I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between Obama and his pastor aren't old enough to vote.

BAM!!!

The thing with Obama's pastor is a damn big deal. He went to the church for over 20 years. He knew the non sence his pastor was preaching. Obama even went as far as to call him his mentor. Wouldn't it strike a chord with you if the man's mentor is a racist? Who also had some CRAZY political talk and stances made known throughout his services? It should strike a chord with anybody.. unless you are blindly voting for Obama.

How about giving me some actual evidence, not just some baseless assumptions?

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="sc_ajk29"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.sc_ajk29

And I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between Obama and his pastor aren't old enough to vote.

BAM!!!

The thing with Obama's pastor is a damn big deal. He went to the church for over 20 years. He knew the non sence his pastor was preaching. Obama even went as far as to call him his mentor. Wouldn't it strike a chord with you if the man's mentor is a racist? Who also had some CRAZY political talk and stances made known throughout his services? It should strike a chord with anybody.. unless you are blindly voting for Obama.

How about giving me some actual evidence, not just some baseless assumptions?

Actual evidence of what? Do some simple research, it's all out in the open. It's not a secret.

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="sc_ajk29"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.sc_ajk29

And I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between Obama and his pastor aren't old enough to vote.

BAM!!!

The thing with Obama's pastor is a damn big deal. He went to the church for over 20 years. He knew the non sence his pastor was preaching. Obama even went as far as to call him his mentor. Wouldn't it strike a chord with you if the man's mentor is a racist? Who also had some CRAZY political talk and stances made known throughout his services? It should strike a chord with anybody.. unless you are blindly voting for Obama.

How about giving me some actual evidence, not just some baseless assumptions?

everything he said is common knowledge

[QUOTE="The_Mac_Daddy"][QUOTE="sc_ajk29"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Yeah; it irritates me when people say that McCain would be "four more years of Bush". I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between the two aren't old enough to vote.sc_ajk29

And I sincerely hope that the people who can't differentiate between Obama and his pastor aren't old enough to vote.

BAM!!!

The thing with Obama's pastor is a damn big deal. He went to the church for over 20 years. He knew the non sence his pastor was preaching. Obama even went as far as to call him his mentor. Wouldn't it strike a chord with you if the man's mentor is a racist? Who also had some CRAZY political talk and stances made known throughout his services? It should strike a chord with anybody.. unless you are blindly voting for Obama.

How about giving me some actual evidence, not just some baseless assumptions?

How about watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQWuQVE6sw

Crazy anti-american talk. God damn America, huh..

John McCain is not a conservative. He does not have one conservative view. It's extremely offensive that he calls himself a Republican when he holds no Republican views.

What's that name they call themselves now? The NeoConservatives?

How John McCain will fix America:

• Remove the border fence and declare America is no longer a soverign nation
• Up Military spending and prepare to stay in the Middle East for a 100 years
• McCain is a big Environmentalist so we can expect no more drilling in the USA. Maybe we should stay dependent on everyone forver.
• He offers no new ideas or strategies.

[QUOTE="sc_ajk29"]

How about giving me some actual evidence, not just some baseless assumptions?

The_Mac_Daddy

Actual evidence of what? Do some simple research, it's all out in the open. It's not a secret.

I don't think you quite understood what I was getting at there. Do you actually have any evidence tha Obama believes every tiny little thing his pastor says? Do you actually have any proof that he hates America? Has he ever tried to sabotage the country? Has he ever openly stated that he agrees with his pastor's sermons?

What I meant was I wanted you to give evidence that he as actually against everything American. Because that is a groundless assumption, without any real evidence supporting it.

Guess I agree with every single tiny little thing that every single person on Earth has said around me. I guess that's why I debate and argue with people. And why we're having this debate right now.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Eddie5vs1"][QUOTE="xscrapzx"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]Almost all republican presidents starting with Reagan have come into their presidencies touting low taxes, and low spending. All of them have failed miserably, and massively increased the deficit. What makes you think that McCain will be different?Eddie5vs1

Sure and lets bring in a democrat who is all about just giving the money away to everyone who abuses the system, do you realize that 44% of the this so called budget that the government goes by is spent on social secuirty and other such abusing programs such as welfare? What do democrats do? Help those people who abuse those programs. So lets go bring a democrat in and watch taxes go up, and watch more people mooch off your hard working tax dollars. Makes sence, :roll:

44%. Link? Of course the social programs are abused. And guess what? the rich abuse their powers as well. The middle calss is the one being pulled in two directions, and IMO, Democrats support the middle class more than the Republicans. Further, and again this is my opinion, but I'd rather help the poor than see the rich get richer.

There are going to be two things that are going to kill this country economically and one of them is definately not going to be any war. Its going to be healthcare and social security.

I cannot find the power point presentation that had the pie graph on government spending. One thing is that if you knew anything on social security what is the problem with it? The problem is very simple the population is no where near to support the amount of people who are going to be living on it. I would have to say that the ratio is probably 3 to 1, so meaning it is taking 3 people to support one person on social security and you know what? Its going to get worse even possibly up to 5 or even 6 to 1 in the next coming years. Then you are probably ask how can that be? Well lets looks at facts the baby boomers are now retiring and the fact of the matter is that this is pretty much just a small percentage at this current time of the baby boomers that are actually retiring, which means there will be a hell of a lot more in the next coming years. Well what does that mean? Well basically we are not in the thick of things as far as baby boomers retiring. There are a lot more to go. Well medicare pretty much goes on the same boundries as social security, the problem with these systems is that you need a pretty close to even amount of people working just as much as retiring. Hopefully that answers your question.