Judaism: The World's Most Peaceful Major Religion

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#1 kingkong0124
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Do you think Judaism is the world's most peaceful major religion? Throughout its history, the Jewish peoples have always been persecuted by others. Even adherents of my own religion of Christianity have done a lot of bad in this world, albeit they were not good Christians at that. Do you agree? Major religions constituting the 3 obvious Abrahamic ones, Buddhism, Confucianism (although not really a "religion"), Shintoism, Hinduism, etc., not some random a** Pastafarianism or such.

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Nope. As i've stated before, i consider all organized religions to be bs and an obstacle to the progress of man/society.
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TBF Jews really never had a chance to persecute others.

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Last I heard Modern Israel is a Jewish state. And Israel is not afraid to throw hands....
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Nope. As i've stated before, i consider all organized religions to be bs and an obstacle to the progress of man/society. l4dak47
The Scientific Method, orphanages, universities, and the giving of money to the poor (a thing that might not have been done if it wasn't for the claimed benefits that you will receive for charity in the afterlife had not been stated) and much more have all come from religion.
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#6 Zeviander
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Israel says no.
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#7 themajormayor
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Israel says no.Zeviander
Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself.
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#8 kingkong0124
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Israel says no.Zeviander
You do realize what sovereignty is, correct? When a country threatens the sovereignty of another and bombs another country, you have to take action. By the way, what's up with the pixelated chick in a bikini? Does that really turn you on?..
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#9 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]Last I heard Modern Israel is a Jewish state. And Israel is not afraid to throw hands....

Also, I might add I find it funny how people are pointing at Israel, a democratic government (not a Jewish theocracy) as being representative of the Jewish religion...
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]Last I heard Modern Israel is a Jewish state. And Israel is not afraid to throw hands....

Also, I might add I find it funny how people are pointing at Israel, a democratic government (not a Jewish theocracy) as being representative of the Jewish religion...

True Judaism is not the official religion of Israel AFAIK
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#11 Zeviander
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The Old Testament also says no.
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#12 theone86
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.themajormayor
Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself.

Yes, just like European settlers needed to defend themselves when they forcefully colonized Africa and the Americas. Those poor, poor, countries who had no choice but to forcefully colonize other lands.

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Circumcision
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.theone86

Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself.

Yes, just like European settlers needed to defend themselves when they forcefully colonized Africa and the Americas. Those poor, poor, countries who had no choice but to forcefully colonize other lands.

We're not talking about Europeans. I think you're in the wrong topic.
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.theone86

Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself.

Yes, just like European settlers needed to defend themselves when they forcefully colonized Africa and the Americas. Those poor, poor, countries who had no choice but to forcefully colonize other lands.

lulz what a piss poor analogy.
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#16 kingkong0124
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CircumcisionRushKing
Most of the world does that..
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#17 kingkong0124
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The Old Testament also says no.Zeviander
At the time it was created, all societies functioned like that. But nowadays we have Reform Judaism.
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.themajormayor
Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself.

Exactly... I hate when people bash the state of Israel as violent Zionist when literally all of their military action is defensive... Yes, I agree the apartments and extension into the West Bank is wrong, the minority status of Arabs in Israel is not right (but what do you expect in a state where Judaism is the state religion)...

But to criticize Israel for retaliating against rocket attacks from Gaza is rediculous... There is no justification for attacks against a sovereign nation recognized internationally, any arguement advocating violence is wrong. If you want to challenge Israel, do it publicly in the media don't use terrorist tactics as that gives Israel justification for retaliation and only strengthens international support for them.

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]The Old Testament also says no.kingkong0124
At the time it was created, all societies functioned like that. But nowadays we have Reform Judaism.

>at the time rofl
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#20 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.C2N2

Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself.

Exactly... I hate when people bash the state of Israel as violent Zionist when literally all of their military action is defensive... Yes, I agree the apartments and extension into the West Bank is wrong, the minority status of Arabs in Israel is not right (but what do you expect in a state where Judaism is the state religion)...

But to criticize Israel for retaliating against rocket attacks from Gaza is rediculous... There is no justification for attacks against a sovereign nation recognized internationally, any arguement advocating violence is wrong. If you want to challenge Israel, do it publicly in the media don't use terrorist tactics as that gives Israel justification for retaliation and only strengthens international support for them.

Judaism is not the state religion IIRC. And what do you mean with "minority status"?
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#21 RushKing
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[QUOTE="RushKing"]Circumcisionkingkong0124
Most of the world does that..

No, it's 20%.
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#22 omho88
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Israel says no.Zeviander
This, this and this .... I can never say it better.
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#23 -Sun_Tzu-
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lolno

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#24 omho88
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="RushKing"]CircumcisionRushKing
Most of the world does that..

No, it's 20%.

It looks more clean and neat for sure.
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#25 -Sun_Tzu-
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W\

Exactly... I hate when people bash the state of Israel as violent Zionist when literally all of their military action is defensive...C2N2

War is peace

Freedom is slavery

Ignorance is strength

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#26 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.omho88
This, this and this .... I can never say it better.

Considering your stance in other threads....I'm going with irony....right?
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#27 Zeviander
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Most of the world does that..kingkong0124
Actually, only in Israel, Muslims countries and the US. Everywhere else it isn't practiced that much... if at all.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]Most of the world does that..Zeviander
Actually, only in Israel, Muslims countries and the US. Everywhere else it isn't practiced that much... if at all.

Wrong

a

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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself. themajormayor

Yes, just like European settlers needed to defend themselves when they forcefully colonized Africa and the Americas. Those poor, poor, countries who had no choice but to forcefully colonize other lands.

lulz what a piss poor analogy.

Yeah, piss poor to compare a country that takes land that doesn't belong to them and puts restrictions on where the previous occupants can move and live to a country that takes land that doesn't belong to them and puts restrictions on where the previous occupants can move and live.

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#30 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="Zeviander"]Israel says no.LJS9502_basic
This, this and this .... I can never say it better.

Considering your stance in other threads....I'm going with irony....right?

lol, you again ... I will go with , the same here.
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#31 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="omho88"] This, this and this .... I can never say it better.

Considering your stance in other threads....I'm going with irony....right?

lol, you again ... I will go with , the same here.

So you got nothing? Okay then......
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#32 Zeviander
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***themajormayor
"20-80%" I lol'd.
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#33 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Yes, just like European settlers needed to defend themselves when they forcefully colonized Africa and the Americas. Those poor, poor, countries who had no choice but to forcefully colonize other lands.

theone86

lulz what a piss poor analogy.

Yeah, piss poor to compare a country that takes land that doesn't belong to them and puts restrictions on where the previous occupants can move and live to a country that takes land that doesn't belong to them and puts restrictions on where the previous occupants can move and live.

Let's see here the previous occupants were Jordan and Egypt who indeed OCCUPIED those areas. Israel was attacked from these areas and subsequentlyseized them. In other words a defensive action. And no Israel does not place any restrictions on Jordan or Egypt in that sense. And when did most if not all of the restrictions on the Palestinians came about (which is what I assume you are talking about)? After years of terrorism. Those lands are pretty much forced upon Israel.

So yes it is a piss poor comparision.

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#34 omho88
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="omho88"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Considering your stance in other threads....I'm going with irony....right?

lol, you again ... I will go with , the same here.

So you got nothing? Okay then......

you didn't say a thing to replay to it .... well, if you want to start something .. ok ... Israel is bad :P .
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]***Zeviander
"20-80%" I lol'd.

Did you see for example Ethiopia, Eritrea or South Korea?
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#36 Philokalia
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Lol Judaism a major religion.

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#37 Stesilaus
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Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

1 Samuel 15:3

:roll:

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Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

1 Samuel 15:3

:roll:

Stesilaus
Do you what an Amalekite is?
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No,

Reason: Old Testament

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#40 DJ-Lafleur
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Lol Judaism a major religion.

Philokalia

It is a major religion.

Christianity, Judaism, and islam are the 3 major religions.

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#41 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Lol Judaism a major religion.

DJ-Lafleur

It is a major religion.

Christianity, Judaism, and islam are the 3 major religions.

You forgot Hinduism and Buddhism.
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#42 DraugenCP
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This thread was always gonna be an Israel vs. Palestine snakepit in the end.

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Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

1 Samuel 15:3

:roll:

Stesilaus

I was thinking of stuff like this. I don't know how much of the OT is in Jewish canon. I do know however that in the OT the Jews were some war-mongering mofos. Now, almost all of the time they were warring in God's name against Philistines, Canaanites, Amalekites, etc. BUT they were still warring.

Sampson,Joshua,Saul,David etc. were all great men of war and there are several more examples in the OT.

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That would be Buddhism OP. Judaism has been known for violence in the past. Even today Isarel is known for being a loose cannon.
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#45 Philokalia
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Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.

1 Samuel 15:3

:roll:

Stesilaus

The Amalekites don't exist any more...

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#46 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"] lulz what a piss poor analogy.themajormayor

Yeah, piss poor to compare a country that takes land that doesn't belong to them and puts restrictions on where the previous occupants can move and live to a country that takes land that doesn't belong to them and puts restrictions on where the previous occupants can move and live.

Let's see here the previous occupants were Jordan and Egypt who indeed OCCUPIED those areas. Israel was attacked from these areas and subsequentlyseized them. In other words a defensive action. And no Israel does not place any restrictions on Jordan or Egypt in that sense. And when did most if not all of the restrictions on the Palestinians came about (which is what I assume you are talking about)? After years of terrorism. Those lands are pretty much forced upon Israel.

So yes it is a piss poor comparision.

Seizing territory is not a defensive action, and since signing a treaty that ceded some of that territory they have continuously occupied it whenever it suits their fancy. I wonder how the U.S. would react if Mexico ever decided to deploy their military in Texas, it would just be defensive so no harm done, right?

Oh great, so any time militants use a country as a staging ground that gives other countries the right to forcefully restrict an entire population of people? Good to know, so if a U.S. citizen ever commits a terrorist attack against Canada they can just build a wall around us and restrict our travel, thanks for the precedent.

Also, similar arguments were used by European colonists to defend their aggression against Native Americans even though they were the ones who first seized the land, so again, apt comparison.

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#47 Philokalia
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Lol Judaism a major religion.

DJ-Lafleur

It is a major religion.

Christianity, Judaism, and islam are the 3 major religions.

It was certaintly influential on pretty much all western culture, but it has never been a major religion.

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#48 theone86
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

Lol Judaism a major religion.

DJ-Lafleur

It is a major religion.

Christianity, Judaism, and islam are the 3 major religions.

Lol taking Philokalia seriously.

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#49 Philokalia
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Lol taking Philokalia seriously.

theone86

lol dismissing comments baselessly.

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#50 Zeviander
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That would be Buddhism OP.gameguy6700
 F*cking f*ck. Go read about Japanese, Korean, Chinese, Tibetan, Indian, Cambodian, Laotian, Burmese, Thai, Malaysian and Mongolian history please. Buddhism is one of the least peaceful religions.