plus they arent that many of them in comparisonTBF Jews really never had a chance to persecute others.
themajormayor
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plus they arent that many of them in comparisonTBF Jews really never had a chance to persecute others.
themajormayor
[QUOTE="dzaric"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Peaceful doesn't mean pacifistic. You can be peaceful and defend yourself. themajormayor
Thats fine and all, but you cant be expansionist and be peaceful, which is what Israel is.
No it isn'tNo it isn't[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="dzaric"]
Thats fine and all, but you cant be expansionist and be peaceful, which is what Israel is.
dzaric
Yes it is.
Nope[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="dzaric"]No it isn't lolThats fine and all, but you cant be expansionist and be peaceful, which is what Israel is.
majoras_wrath
Im sorry to ruin it for you, but there was no country called Palestine , heck , in the 2nd and 3rd map , its also wrong because the whole of "Palestine" was ruled by Jordan , hence the map is wrong.
where did you even get that collection of mistakes
but israel is evil and hates Palestiniansmajoras_wrathlast I checked I don't hate anybody who doesn't hate me.
[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]but israel is evil and hates PalestiniansDarkman2007last I checked I don't hate anybody who doesn't hate me. yeah but youre israeli obv. youre evil
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]but israel is evil and hates Palestiniansmajoras_wrathlast I checked I don't hate anybody who doesn't hate me. yeah but youre israeli obv. youre evil and so are you
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]but israel is evil and hates Palestiniansmajoras_wrathlast I checked I don't hate anybody who doesn't hate me. yeah but youre israeli obv. youre evil Not to mention he's a ranger
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] yeah but youre israeli obv. youre evilmajoras_wrathand so are you . why you gotta be so cruel i'm not even palestinian.
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. why you gotta be so cruel i'm not even palestinian.[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] and so are you Darkman2007
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Currently, everybody in this thread is jewish.by birth, that is.
[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="dzaric"]No it isn'tThats fine and all, but you cant be expansionist and be peaceful, which is what Israel is.
majoras_wrath
That map is wrong for many reasons. In the first picture Palestinian owned land isn't actually shown, you only see Jewish owned land. But there are plenty of land that wasn't owned by anyone, land that here is represented as Palestinian owned land. And in the next picture nothing has changed, what is shown is the proposal to establish two states. The Jewish state was to be established on land where Jews were in majority and the Arab one on land where Arabs were in majority. So again nothing had changed, even in 1946 Jews were in the majority on the land that is white in the 1947 picture.
Of course the Arabs rejected it and attacked Israel hours after declaring independence (speaking of expansionism). So the picture is actually an expansion yes, but it is an expansion as a result of being attacked from these areas by I think 7 arab coutnries and various arab and palestinian groups, and this is what happened 1967 as well. Funny how they left out 1967-2000 isn't it?? You know cause since 67 Israel has ceded land more than twice their own area, but to include that would not be good propaganda would it? Also since 2000 they've ceded even more.
The big reason why this picture is not representative. They're comparing sovereignty with land ownership which are two different things. They're comparing apples with oranges.
Also they clearly another proof of their ignorance. In the 1947 plan Jerusalem would have been a corpus separatum not Palestinian land. And funny how Jewish land suddenly turned Palestinian in Jerusalem, Gaza, West Bank and the Galilee using their own logic.
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]. why you gotta be so cruel i'm not even palestinian.pie-junior
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Currently, everybody in this thread is jewish. who? apart from me I can't think of anyone else.. why you gotta be so cruel i'm not even palestinian.[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] and so are you Darkman2007
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you're right. i sure do hate myself. thats why i degrade myself with such painfully obvious trolling. a jewish thread wouldn't be complete without that picture.[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]Currently, everybody in this thread is jewish. who? apart from me I can't think of anyone else. Me you and majoras. A real elders of zion gathering we have over here.ah yes, more Jew hating immature kids
Darkman2007
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]. why you gotta be so cruel i'm not even palestinian.majoras_wrath
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you're right. i sure do hate myself. thats why i degrade myself with such painfully obvious trolling. a jewish thread wouldn't be complete without that picture. maybe youre Norman Finkelstien in disguise :P and no , my sense of humor does not include trolling in the funny catagory.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]. why you gotta be so cruel i'm not even palestinian.majoras_wrath
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you're right. i sure do hate myself. thats why i degrade myself with such painfully obvious trolling. a jewish thread wouldn't be complete without that picture. I wrote all that text because of your trolling :evil:[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]you're right. i sure do hate myself. thats why i degrade myself with such painfully obvious trolling. a jewish thread wouldn't be complete without that picture. I wrote all that text because of your trolling :evil: sh*t bro. that was quite possibly the laziest attempt at trolling ive ever done. if you got fooled by that, thats your problem.ah yes, more Jew hating immature kids
themajormayor
yeah, on their next job application they should put they are the least violent people in the asylum.
[QUOTE="MattDistillery"]Hinduism or Buddishm seems to be the most peacefull.ZevianderAre you people trolling for my benefit or are you actually this dumb? My god... You know, even if I give you Buddhism despite it being wrong, there is no way anyone who knows even a shred about Hinduism would think it is peaceful. One of it's main texts centers on a gigantic war between two families and enjoins the power of the gods to assist in a death toll into the MILLIONS (for those out there who don't know what I am talking about, see the Mahabharata). Hell, there is a recognized "warrior" caste (the Kshatrya). I do find it amusing that people struggle to claim the title "most peaceful" when in reality, there are noble forms of violence, especially that which protects the innocent from harm. I say that any religion that professes absolute non-violence is doing a comparable amount of harm, indirectly, for their non-action in times of requirement. There is only a single religion that could be considered truly "peaceful" (and to a fault no less): Jainism. They are the only group that originated in India that has upheld the concept of ahimsa (complete non-violence) perfectly.
Perhapes you should read about the story of David.. That and the Jewish people when they went and immigrated into the region after Egypt slaughtered and usurped the population living there.. I would most certainly not even put any of the abrahamic religions in the title as "most peaceful" when it comes to their history.TBF Jews really never had a chance to persecute others.
themajormayor
[QUOTE="themajormayor"]It is often considered to be one of the five world religions. Probably when talking about influence and not number of adherents. ZevianderI'd argue that it wasn't as influential as Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism and Confucianism. Three of those religions conquered entire continents. The other two have lasted over 2500 years and defined the countries they came from on the world stage. Judaism, I'd argue, has never been largely important, merely a convenient scapegoat for the popular religions to rag on. Judaism is not a major religion. When Western people talk about major religions, all they know are Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hindusim and Buddhism. But Judaism is not a major religion, Shinto of Japan and Taoism of China has far more adherents than Judaism.
Most peacfull in the context of major religions and their texts doesn't leave you with alot hence why I said Humanism. There certainly alot more peacefull than the Abrahimic religions. MattDistillerySo essentially, you know nothing about Buddhism, and are telling me, someone who has literal accreditation in the academic study of the religion, that I'm wrong. Buddhism is not peaceful. It is not "more peaceful than the Abrahamic religions". Give up. You are wrong.
I don't really understand how people these days can believe in bronze age myths! It's baffling to me! I have read Greek mythology, but I don't believe that Zeus and Posiden actually exist!!
What's funny is that the people that study the world in which we live in depth, such as scientists, are largely non-believers in Gods. The closer you understand the universe, the less likely it seems that is was created by some supernatural being.
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