Knowledgeable Christians: Why is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost unforgivable?

.. How does that prove your views are correct? LJ for some one who constantly claims the whole thing about having the possibility and that you never can make ascertions of god can't be disporved through lack of evidence.. Your a bloody hypocrit in this regard... I see so you use scholars and facts when its convient to you, but if it isn't you go back to the lack of evidnece doesnt' disprove it.. This is even worse when it comes about things dealing with the metaphysical, something which most would consider anything possible.

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.. How does that prove your views are correct? LJ for some one who constantly claims the whole thing about having the possibility and that you never can make ascertions of god can't be disporved through lack of evidence.. Your a bloody hypocrit in this regard... I see so you use scholars and facts when its convient to you, but if it isn't you go back to the lack of evidnece doesnt' disprove it.. This is even worse when it comes about things dealing with the metaphysical, something which most would consider anything possible.

LJS9502_basic

You have yet to show a single point in which accepting Jesus as the Messiah regardless if people see him as a son of god.. The main views are that god rose from teh dead, that if you accept the teachings of Jesus you will be expunged from your sins.. Sorry if the Bible is completely ambigious to the point that Christians in general have not been able to have a consensus ecept for a absolute select few of things.. Afterall Christianity main thing is salvation through Jesus, thats what the entire thing was brought up on.. If anything that was the one thing that was actually followed through the centuries..

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.. How does that prove your views are correct? LJ for some one who constantly claims the whole thing about having the possibility and that you never can make ascertions of god can't be disporved through lack of evidence.. Your a bloody hypocrit in this regard... I see so you use scholars and facts when its convient to you, but if it isn't you go back to the lack of evidnece doesnt' disprove it.. This is even worse when it comes about things dealing with the metaphysical, something which most would consider anything possible.

sSubZerOo

You have yet to show a single point in which accepting Jesus as the Messiah regardless if people see him as a son of god.. The main views are that god rose from teh dead, that if you accept the teachings of Jesus you will be expunged from your sins.. Sorry if the Bible is completely ambigious to the point that Christians in general have not been able to have a consensus ecept for a absolute select few of things.. Afterall Christianity main thing is salvation through Jesus, thats what the entire thing was brought up on.. If anything that was the one thing that was actually followed through the centuries..

Very simple. Also according to the Bible, the only way to blaspheme the Holy Spirit and the rest of the Trinity is to refuse belief in them altogether.

So the unforgivable sin is not believing in Jesus, God, etc. up to your death. The only way to actually commit the "unforgivable sin" is to die without ever accepting God's truth...just a different way of saying, if you don't believe in God and Jesus' sacrifice, you're going to hell.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]My views? A Christian has to believe in the divinity of Jesus. And since it's a monotheistic religion...there is but one God. Thus, the trinity is an important part of Christianity. That is not my view. Your view that one can be Christian but not believe in Christian teachings is well....not right.

LJS9502_basic

You have yet to show a single point in which accepting Jesus as the Messiah regardless if people see him as a son of god.. The main views are that god rose from teh dead, that if you accept the teachings of Jesus you will be expunged from your sins.. Sorry if the Bible is completely ambigious to the point that Christians in general have not been able to have a consensus ecept for a absolute select few of things.. Afterall Christianity main thing is salvation through Jesus, thats what the entire thing was brought up on.. If anything that was the one thing that was actually followed through the centuries..

Son of God, and divine.. Not god.. If there wasn't confusion with this, there wouldn't be such ambigiuty in the end its pretty pointless even to argue this.. Because we are argueing basically semantics.. Either way this argument should end because its not going any where and it has little to do with the TC's question.

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You have yet to show a single point in which accepting Jesus as the Messiah regardless if people see him as a son of god.. The main views are that god rose from teh dead, that if you accept the teachings of Jesus you will be expunged from your sins.. Sorry if the Bible is completely ambigious to the point that Christians in general have not been able to have a consensus ecept for a absolute select few of things.. Afterall Christianity main thing is salvation through Jesus, thats what the entire thing was brought up on.. If anything that was the one thing that was actually followed through the centuries..

sSubZerOo

Son of God, and divine.. Not god.. If there wasn't confusion with this, there wouldn't be such ambigiuty in the end its pretty pointless even to argue this.. Because we are argueing basically semantics.. Either way this argument should end because its not going any where and it has little to do with the TC's question.

Wrong. ALL denominations of Christianity believe in the divine mystery of the Trinity, the idea that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are three different parts of the divine, yet still one in the same. The belief the Jesus IS God, and simultaneously came into the physical in human form as His Son, is absolutely concretely fundamental to Christianity. If you don't believe that Jesus is also God, you are not a Christian. Very simple. There is no ambiguity on this in the Christian religion whatsoever.

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You have yet to show a single point in which accepting Jesus as the Messiah regardless if people see him as a son of god.. The main views are that god rose from teh dead, that if you accept the teachings of Jesus you will be expunged from your sins.. Sorry if the Bible is completely ambigious to the point that Christians in general have not been able to have a consensus ecept for a absolute select few of things.. Afterall Christianity main thing is salvation through Jesus, thats what the entire thing was brought up on.. If anything that was the one thing that was actually followed through the centuries..

sSubZerOo

Son of God, and divine.. Not god.. If there wasn't confusion with this, there wouldn't be such ambigiuty in the end its pretty pointless even to argue this.. Because we are argueing basically semantics.. Either way this argument should end because its not going any where and it has little to do with the TC's question.

Son of God, and divine.. Not god..If there wasn't confusion with this, there wouldn't be such ambigiuty in the end its pretty pointless even to argue this.. Because we are argueing basically semantics.. Either way this argument should end because its not going any where and it has little to do with the TC's question.sSubZerOo

The Words of Jesus Himself, refute that assertion...

Joh 10:30 I and my Father are one.

End of story.

Son of God, and divine.. Not god.. If there wasn't confusion with this, there wouldn't be such ambigiuty in the end its pretty pointless even to argue this.. Because we are argueing basically semantics.. Either way this argument should end because its not going any where and it has little to do with the TC's question.

sSubZerOo

I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

Who, for us men and for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father and the Son; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

And I believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

[QUOTE="mindstorm"][QUOTE="iowastate"]You do realize there are some things all Christians agree upon correct? :|

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Ok, first, what's the Holy Ghost?-eddy-

A ghost filled with holes

[QUOTE="-eddy-"]Ok, first, what's the Holy Ghost?HermitGTX

A ghost filled with holes

This is what it says from gotquestions.org

The concept of "blasphemy against the Spirit" is mentioned in Mark 3:22-30 and Matthew 12:22-32. The term blasphemy may be generally defined as "defiant irreverence." The term can be applied to such sins as cursing God or willfully degrading things relating to God. It is also attributing some evil to God, or denying Him some good that we should attribute to Him. This case of blasphemy, however, is a specific one, called "the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" in Matthew 12:31. In Matthew 12:31-32, the Pharisees, having witnessed irrefutable proof that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, claimed instead that the Lord was possessed by the demon "Beelzebub" (Matthew 12:24). Now notice that in Mark 3:30 Jesus is very specific about what they did to commit "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit."

This blasphemy has to do with someone accusing Jesus Christ of being demon-possessed instead of Spirit-filled. As a result, this particular incidence of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be duplicated today. Jesus Christ is not on earth—He is seated at the right hand of God. No one can witness Jesus Christ performing a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. The closest example today would be attributing the miracle of a redeemed person's changed life to Satan's power rather than to the effects of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

The blasphemy of the Spirit today, which is the same as the unpardonable sin, is the state of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in unbelief. Continual rejection of the Holy Spirit's promptings to trust in Jesus Christ is the unpardonable blasphemy against Him. Remember what is stated in John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." Further on in the same chapter is the verse "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him" (John 3:36). The only condition wherein someone would have no forgiveness is if he is not among the "whoever believes in Him," for it is he who "rejects the Son."

http://www.gotquestions.org/blasphemy-Holy-Spirit.html

[QUOTE="-eddy-"]Ok, first, what's the Holy Ghost?HermitGTX

A ghost filled with holes

I believe you can find a pamphlet about this subject from Rhema books. They are a Full Gospel denomination.

Edit: It might be out of print, I couldn't find it on their website. The name was "The Sin Unto Death".

speak no blasphemy! booowwaaahhaaa!