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#1 ryanweinmann
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Do you guys think there should be some kind of law on how many kids a household can have? I mean I see household have around 4 or 5 and they can't even take care of theirself. Plus, you see family on welfare with 5 kids, and they b****because they have no money because I have 4 kids and can't take care of them. I just wondering what you takes on this.

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#3 mrmusicman247
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Actually, yes.
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#4 LJS9502_basic
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No I don't think that......:|
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#5 deactivated-5d1cb98d088e5
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Yeah, because the fed doesn't control our lives enough as is.:roll: Stuff like that is bull-s***

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#6 Bucked20
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My parents had 5 kids and it would be stupid to have a limit,plus they had enough money to take care of us
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#7 lostrib
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Not in the USA

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#8 yahtzo900
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No there should not be a law.

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#10 nickz_fpk
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How can there be a limit on how many children a household can have that's just ridiculous.

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#11 Microsteve
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We have a huge issue with scum outbreeding us in the UK and living off the state, I'd elaborate but it would only end in me being modded :(

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#12 BuryMe
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No... That's a terrible idea.

First of all, the government has no right to dictate reproductive rights.

Second, developed counries should be trying to raise the birth rates, not lower them.

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#13 1nf4m0us
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Second, developed counries should be trying to raise the birth rates, not lower them.

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Why do you say this?

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#14 CHOASXIII
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I don't think there should ever be a law on how many kids someone can have. Although, people that are on assisted living should not be allowed to have anymore kids than they already have and if they do they should lose that assistance. My only reason behind that being that a lot of people just abuse the system and have tons of kids and expect everyone to pay for them. Just my opinion, move along now.

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#15 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Second, developed counries should be trying to raise the birth rates, not lower them.

1nf4m0us

Why do you say this?

Because less than 2.1 children per family leads to negative population growth, and that causes huge problems for countries.

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#16 DigitalExile
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Unless you want to live in a totalitarian police state where the government dictates what you have for dinner you're not going to see any control over who has kids, when they have them and how many they have. A household "should" have as many kids as they can provide for, but we know that even families with money don't always raise "good" kids and that even poor families can have good kids who are "happy" whether the environment is the "best thing" for them or not. Like all things in life it's a case by case matter that needs to be looked at.

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In india, yes.
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#18 rawsavon
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[QUOTE="1nf4m0us"]

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Second, developed counries should be trying to raise the birth rates, not lower them.

BuryMe

Why do you say this?

Because less than 2.1 children per family leads to negative population growth, and that causes huge problems for countries.

IF you take out immigration, then you are correct. But most developed countries are not seeing negative population growths (despite decreased birth rate)
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I really don't know how I feel about this. Honestly I think people need to use self control and realize how over-crowded the earth already is and then realize how bad it will be in 3 or 4 generations. That being said I am very very grateful to have received the gift of live (23 years ago today actually) and I would hate do deny that privilege to someone else by placing limits.
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#20 LovePotionNo9
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As long as they're both able and want children, even if it's an unexpected pleasure, why place limits. I'd hate to be the one to say no to a potential new life in the world.

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#21 gameguy6700
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If anything every country in the world should have a 1 child per household law. The human population is already too large to sustain, and I'm not talking about food or living space but rather things we depend on for society to function like oil and rare metals. The sobering reality is that the world really can't sustain more than 1 billion people, and we're already nearly at 8 billion. What we need to do is start halving our population every generation, but that's going to take a couple of centuries before we see an effect even if we started right now.
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#22 BuryMe
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If anything every country in the world should have a 1 child per household law. The human population is already too large to sustain, and I'm not talking about food or living space but rather things we depend on for society to function like oil and rare metals. The sobering reality is that the world really can't sustain more than 1 billion people, and we're already nearly at 8 billion. What we need to do is start halving our population every generation, but that's going to take a couple of centuries before we see an effect even if we started right now.gameguy6700
Dropping the population that fast would pretty much destroy the world as we know it :|

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#23 CaveJohnson1
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I'd support it if the limit was 5 or something. I've seen cases where a lady will have 9 illegitimate kids and just lives of the money she gets for them from the gov't. On top of that, any amount of money says kids coming from that family will be useless to society.

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]If anything every country in the world should have a 1 child per household law. The human population is already too large to sustain, and I'm not talking about food or living space but rather things we depend on for society to function like oil and rare metals. The sobering reality is that the world really can't sustain more than 1 billion people, and we're already nearly at 8 billion. What we need to do is start halving our population every generation, but that's going to take a couple of centuries before we see an effect even if we started right now.BuryMe

Dropping the population that fast would pretty much destroy the world as we know it :|

I don't see how, it would take a very long time for the current population to reduce, several generation and with improving medicine and life expectancy it would continue to be a gradual decline. (not saying I agree with the first quote).
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#25 XiaolinPrincess
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There should be a law. The family with 19 kids has to make ends meet, and it wouldn't have been a problem if they only had a few kids.
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#26 BuryMe
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]If anything every country in the world should have a 1 child per household law. The human population is already too large to sustain, and I'm not talking about food or living space but rather things we depend on for society to function like oil and rare metals. The sobering reality is that the world really can't sustain more than 1 billion people, and we're already nearly at 8 billion. What we need to do is start halving our population every generation, but that's going to take a couple of centuries before we see an effect even if we started right now.trick_man01

Dropping the population that fast would pretty much destroy the world as we know it :|

I don't see how, it would take a very long time for the current population to reduce, several generation and with improving medicine and life expectancy it would continue to be a gradual decline. (not saying I agree with the first quote).

Gradual decline could work.

Losing 4 billion people in 1 generation would do nothing positive. There just wouldn't be enough people around to support our way of life.

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I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....
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#28 mindstorm
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Absolutely not. What then, is protection to be forced upon married couples or even have forced abortion? This is honestly one of those ideas that I would give my very life to stop.
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#29 hrt_rulz01
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What really ticks me off is when couples have like 10 kids, or some even more ridiculous number. I know it's our right to have as many kids as we want, but imagine if everybody had that many kids... the world would be overpopulated & their would be resource shortages. It's just irresponsible. I doubt there will ever be a law on it but it should be.
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#30 Chris_Williams
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when you first think about it, it sounds like a good idea BUT when you think about it, government is controlling your life and if they got that power they surely would abuse it. So no, also i still have faith in humanity that people are smart enough not to have kids they know that can't take care of.

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#31 XilePrincess
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There is no way to make this work. I mean, aside from basically stripping away freedom, there is no way to make it a constant, working system. If the system was based on how much money you make or have, what if you lost your job or lost all your money? Would you suddenly have your children repossessed with your household objects since you don't make enough money to keep all of them? **** does happen, some people could be making good money and be able to afford all their children, and then one day have nothing. They're not all lazy welfare leeches. What about accidental children? Would the government force adoption or abortion? They can't do that. What about multiples? Say the Jones family wants to have a second child. They end up with quadruplets. They now have five children instead of two. What happens? I am against reproduction laws. Instead, provide sex ed and free contraception to stop accidentababies, and if people are too irresponsible to keep their children, take them and place them in foster care.
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#32 topsemag55
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I don't believe there should be a law - it would be defeated in the courts anyway. But fraud investigation should be stepped up - I think it should be illegal for someone already on welfare to keep having kid after kid just to keep the check coming.
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#33 Scoob64
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yes!!

I can't run my own life!!

I need to government to outlaw drugs (especially that deadly marijuana), prostitution, tell me what to eat, drive, wear, drink, and what I watch on TV and at the movies.

and especially how to manage my family...

because if they didn't, I MIGHT have to take a tiny bit of personal responsibility... couldn't handle that.

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#34 shoot-first
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Only if they can afford to take care of their family.

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#35 deactivated-59d151f079814
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I would be in favor of giving tax credits based on a certain amount of children a family has. Outside of that, I just don't know.. Overpopulation is indeed the greatest threat to the human race as we know. it.
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That law would be far too restricting on the average American's life.

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I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....LJS9502_basic
Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....CaveJohnson1

Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

but its not governments place to 'protect us from ourselves' as it were..

they try to do that with the war on drugs, prohibition, and so many other ridiculous laws...

the role of government is to provide a national defense, and secure our freedoms... not run our lives and be our daddies... that type of government is what the US is indeed becoming, but nevertheless, thats not what they are there for.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....CaveJohnson1

Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

I believe world population growth is well on its way to leveling off.
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Nah i don't want the government with power over my reproductive habits
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[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....limpbizkit818

Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

I believe world population growth is well on its way to leveling off.

.. Where are you getting these figures? Because every one I have seen has it exploding.. Mankind is already negatively affecting large parts of the environment, not to mention draining fossil fuels at a frightening rate thats only GROWING..

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[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....Scoob64

Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

but its not governments place to 'protect us from ourselves' as it were..

they try to do that with the war on drugs, prohibition, and so many other ridiculous laws...

the role of government is to provide a national defense, and secure our freedoms... not run our lives and be our daddies... that type of government is what the US is indeed becoming, but nevertheless, thats not what they are there for.

Well, the world supply of phosphorus and water are really low as is, that's not just a scare that's the hard truth, and reality is that if the population keeps growing at the rate it is, and we can't keep up on production up, billions will, die, yes, that's with a B. Food production is expected to hit a peak within 30 years, and that won't be pretty.

So reality is either people need to have less kids now or settle with the fact that they'll die of lack of food and water later.

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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

sSubZerOo

I believe world population growth is well on its way to leveling off.

.. Where are you getting these figures? Because every one I have seen has it exploding.. Mankind is already negatively affecting large parts of the environment, not to mention draining fossil fuels at a frightening rate thats only GROWING..

we are running low on fossil fuels, but a lot of that has to do with how/what/and how much we consume... just look at how much more energy friendly some other parts of the world are... especially much of Europe.

the world does have a heck of a lot of people... however, its mostly that large populations are heavily grouped into a small number of areas... cities like Tokyo and Mumbai are extremely over-populated. yet, you can go to so many places in Canada and literally drive forpractically foreverand never see sign of another person.

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[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I cannot believe people advocate government involvement in such personal aspects of life...then again they think it's okay for the government to tell them what they can eat. Can't wait until government proposes taking something they like away though....limpbizkit818

Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

I believe world population growth is well on its way to leveling off.

That's BS, the worlds population increased by a billion in the last 12 years.

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[QUOTE="Scoob64"]

[QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

CaveJohnson1

but its not governments place to 'protect us from ourselves' as it were..

they try to do that with the war on drugs, prohibition, and so many other ridiculous laws...

the role of government is to provide a national defense, and secure our freedoms... not run our lives and be our daddies... that type of government is what the US is indeed becoming, but nevertheless, thats not what they are there for.

Well, the world supply of phosphorus and water are really low as is, that's not just a scare that's the hard truth, and reality is that if the population keeps growing at the rate it is, and we can't keep up on production up, billions will, die, yes, that's with a B. Food production is expected to hit a peak within 30 years, and that won't be pretty.

So reality is either people need to have less kids now or settle with the fact that they'll die of lack of food and water later.

then if you want government involved then perhaps they could subsidize more money for non-profit organizations to promote birth control... however, stripping people of their freedoms to procreate should never be the role of this government... that power would be ridiculously abused.

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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

CaveJohnson1

I believe world population growth is well on its way to leveling off.

That's BS, the worlds population increased by a billion in the last 12 years.

I said population growth............
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[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"][QUOTE="CaveJohnson1"]Over population is kind of a serious issue. We're already running low on key resources.....

sSubZerOo

I believe world population growth is well on its way to leveling off.

.. Where are you getting these figures? Because every one I have seen has it exploding.. Mankind is already negatively affecting large parts of the environment, not to mention draining fossil fuels at a frightening rate thats only GROWING..

Every source I have seen has shown a decline in population growth. A quick google search will bring back the world bank's results.
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Yes I do agree. Overpopulation is becoming a serious problem and will greatly affect our futures and our children even more. Believing a couple can have as many kids as they want is selfish. They should be considerate to the other people of the world. 3 kids max. If we do not reduce birth rates then nature will do it for us via starvation...
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Yes I do agree. Overpopulation is becoming a serious problem and will greatly affect our futures and our children even more. Believing a couple can have as many kids as they want is selfish. They should be considerate to the other people of the world. 3 kids max. If we do not reduce birth rates then nature will do it for us via starvation... STAR_Admiral

heh, i can't believe how many people just want to hand over their freedoms left and right to the federal government in the name of keeping us safe... i don't think people realize that if you give the fed an inch they will take a mile. patriot act, anyone?

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#50 branketra
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If overpopulation becomes a problem, it will have to be considered.