Liberals and their imaginary peace

the liberal left think that if we pull out of the mideast and stop the war on terror, then the terrorists are gonna say "hey America is nice, let's not attack it". No if we stop attacking them , they will attack us just look at the Clinton days, they attacked and attacked and Clinton did nothing.

attacked and attacked?

attacked and attacked?

Oleg_Huzwog

the liberal left think that if we pull out of the mideast and stop the war on terror, then the terrorists are gonna say "hey America is nice, let's not attack it". No if we stop attacking them , they will attack us just look at the Clinton days, they attacked and attacked and Clinton did nothing.

whipassmt

I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...jointed

No, they won't attack us. If they were smart enough to do that, wouldn't they cut down on the attacks until we leave and then follow us back home? We haven't had a major terrorist attack in 6 years, and the political climate does not seem to be leading up to one.Video_Game_King

The London bombings were 2 years ago, are you saying america should just ignore her allies now.

why did they attack us on 9/11 then. what they want is to subject the whole world to Sharia. I say screw al qaeda and to hell with jihad.whipassmt

They attacked us on 9/11 because of our screwy foreign policy. And about jihad, we are playing exactly into their need for jihad. We could have declared war on the Taliban, or Al Qaieda, but no, we had to grant the prez an all-encompasing power to do whatever he feels like doing. (and play on our patriotism at the same time, denouncing all opponents as anti-American)

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]No, they won't attack us. If they were smart enough to do that, wouldn't they cut down on the attacks until we leave and then follow us back home? We haven't had a major terrorist attack in 6 years, and the political climate does not seem to be leading up to one.Platearmor_6

The London bombings were 2 years ago, are you saying america should just ignore her allies now.

[QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...whipassmt

Becuase you had multiple bases in the middle east and you were supporting Israel? Plus you've been screwing things up down there for more than half a century.

Do you even know what jihad is?

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why did they attack us on 9/11 then. what they want is to subject the whole world to Sharia. I say screw al qaeda and to hell with jihad.Engrish_Major

They attacked us on 9/11 because of our screwy foreign policy. And about jihad, we are playing exactly into their need for jihad. We could have declared war on the Taliban, or Al Qaieda, but no, we had to grant the prez an all-encompasing power to do whatever he feels like doing. (and play on our patriotism at the same time, denouncing all opponents as anti-American)

exactly, and wasn't there a foiled plot last year and another one the year before that. with these jihadi maniacs its kill or be killed, if we don't kill them they'll kill us. Islam means surrender and they won't stop until the whole world surrenders to the oppression of sharia.whipassmt

Umm, no. They just want us out of their land.

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why did they attack us on 9/11 then. what they want is to subject the whole world to Sharia. I say screw al qaeda and to hell with jihad.whipassmt

They attacked us on 9/11 because of our screwy foreign policy. And about jihad, we are playing exactly into their need for jihad. We could have declared war on the Taliban, or Al Qaieda, but no, we had to grant the prez an all-encompasing power to do whatever he feels like doing. (and play on our patriotism at the same time, denouncing all opponents as anti-American)

I think you have a lot of catching up to do.

No, they won't attack us. If they were smart enough to do that, wouldn't they cut down on the attacks until we leave and then follow us back home? We haven't had a major terrorist attack in 6 years, and the political climate does not seem to be leading up to one.Video_Game_King

Quoted for truth.

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why did they attack us on 9/11 then. what they want is to subject the whole world to Sharia. I say screw al qaeda and to hell with jihad.Engrish_Major

They attacked us on 9/11 because of our screwy foreign policy. And about jihad, we are playing exactly into their need for jihad. We could have declared war on the Taliban, or Al Qaieda, but no, we had to grant the prez an all-encompasing power to do whatever he feels like doing. (and play on our patriotism at the same time, denouncing all opponents as anti-American)

Also quoted for truth.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...jointed

Becuase you had multiple bases in the middle east and you were supporting Israel? Plus you've been screwing things up down there for more than half a century.

Do you even know what jihad is?

Umm, no. They just want us out of their land.

Engrish_Major

Who is "they"? Are there any U.S. bases that don't have the support of the local government?

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exactly, and wasn't there a foiled plot last year and another one the year before that. with these jihadi maniacs its kill or be killed, if we don't kill them they'll kill us. Islam means surrender and they won't stop until the whole world surrenders to the oppression of sharia.Engrish_Major

Umm, no. They just want us out of their land.

If some country invaded the United States and basically told us to adopt their type of government, I don't think anyone here would like it. Although I believe that the government we are trying to put in place in Iraq is much better than Saddam's regime, that's basically what we're doing over there.

So, I'm basically just saying that occupying a country is not going to get those people to like you.

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[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]No, they won't attack us. If they were smart enough to do that, wouldn't they cut down on the attacks until we leave and then follow us back home? We haven't had a major terrorist attack in 6 years, and the political climate does not seem to be leading up to one.whipassmt

The London bombings were 2 years ago, are you saying america should just ignore her allies now.

The trouble between the west and islam goes back more than century. The bad blood started in 711 when the muslims invaded and occupied Spain. So historically speaking, the Islamists started this whole thing not the West.whipassmt

Linking the Iraq War to the 8th Century Moorish conquest of Iberia sounds rather... stupid. :|

we were not in there land before 9/11. and besides the Muslims are occupying Constantinople if you wanna play the "they're on my land game".whipassmt

Again, you have a lot of catching up to do. Also, Bin Laden puts Israel and the US together.

If some country invaded the United States and basically told us to adopt their type of government, I don't think anyone here would like it. Although I believe that the government we are trying to put in place in Iraq is much better than Saddam's regime, that's basically what we're doing over there.

So, I'm basically just saying that occupying a country is not going to get those people to like you.

JML897

All this war needs to be replaced with just one really big banana cream pie fight.JustPlainLucas

Now, that's a resolution I would vote for!

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...whipassmt

Becuase you had multiple bases in the middle east and you were supporting Israel? Plus you've been screwing things up down there for more than half a century.

Do you even know what jihad is?

What about the palestinians, they also have a right to survive. Your childish logic is ridicolous.

And no, it didn't start in 711...:roll:

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] we were not in there land before 9/11. and besides the Muslims are occupying Constantinople if you wanna play the "they're on my land game".Engrish_Major

Again, you have a lot of catching up to do. Also, Bin Laden puts Israel and the US together.

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If some country invaded the United States and basically told us to adopt their type of government, I don't think anyone here would like it. Although I believe that the government we are trying to put in place in Iraq is much better than Saddam's regime, that's basically what we're doing over there.

So, I'm basically just saying that occupying a country is not going to get those people to like you.

whipassmt

Funny, Iraq was perfectly free of those things before 2003!!!

[QUOTE="JML897"]

If some country invaded the United States and basically told us to adopt their type of government, I don't think anyone here would like it. Although I believe that the government we are trying to put in place in Iraq is much better than Saddam's regime, that's basically what we're doing over there.

So, I'm basically just saying that occupying a country is not going to get those people to like you.

whipassmt

He was referring to us. Nice spin you got going there.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] we were not in there land before 9/11. and besides the Muslims are occupying Constantinople if you wanna play the "they're on my land game".whipassmt

Again, you have a lot of catching up to do. Also, Bin Laden puts Israel and the US together.

I agree with your last statement, but you seem woefully ignorant of our support for the Israelis since the inception in 1948, and how we support what has been happening to the Palestinians the past 50 years.

can't we all just agree on the fact that both sides are equally retarded and generally have no clue what their talking about. we should just get rid of both democrats and republicans and start fresh without both of their extreme bias.dooly420

On top of the banana creme pie resolution, this is also a resolution I would vote for.

I dont know. Arming islamic fundamentalists to fight the soviets, then pulling the rug out from underthem to get slaughterd didn't win us too many friends. You can thank the republicans for that, Bush senior and Rummy were part of that bunch. Some of those people we screwed even long memories and plotted revenge against the US. Bin Laden being one of them. Darthmatt

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"] we were not in there land before 9/11. and besides the Muslims are occupying Constantinople if you wanna play the "they're on my land game".Engrish_Major

Again, you have a lot of catching up to do. Also, Bin Laden puts Israel and the US together.

I agree with your last statement, but you seem woefully ignorant of our support for the Israelis since the inception in 1948, and how we support what has been happening to the Palestinians the past 50 years.

can't we all just agree on the fact that both sides are equally retarded and generally have no clue what their talking about. we should just get rid of both democrats and republicans and start fresh without both of their extreme bias.dooly420

What we really need is a centrist third party or something.

Dude just like my post, yours will be ignored do to the overwhelming use of common sense. H3llstrike

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Woe is our country!!

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]I dont know. Arming islamic fundamentalists to fight the soviets, then pulling the rug out from underthem to get slaughterd didn't win us too many friends. You can thank the republicans for that, Bush senior and Rummy were part of that bunch. Some of those people we screwed even long memories and plotted revenge against the US. Bin Laden being one of them. H3llstrike

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...jointed

Becuase you had multiple bases in the middle east and you were supporting Israel? Plus you've been screwing things up down there for more than half a century.

Do you even know what jihad is?

What about the palestinians, they also have a right to survive. Your childish logic is ridicolous.

And no, it didn't start in 711...:roll:

the liberal left think that if we pull out of the mideast and stop the war on terror, then the terrorists are gonna say "hey America is nice, let's not attack it". No if we stop attacking them , they will attack us just look at the Clinton days, they attacked and attacked and Clinton did nothing.

whipassmt

Silly ignorant nationalist fascists grouping all liberals in one group.. ignorant ****

[QUOTE="dooly420"]can't we all just agree on the fact that both sides are equally retarded and generally have no clue what their talking about. we should just get rid of both democrats and republicans and start fresh without both of their extreme bias.ninjacat11

What we really need is a centrist third party or something.

can't we all just agree on the fact that both sides are equally retarded and generally have no clue what their talking about. we should just get rid of both democrats and republicans and start fresh without both of their extreme bias.dooly420

Silly man, you can't combine rational thinking with politics!

can't we all just agree on the fact that both sides are equally retarded and generally have no clue what their talking about. we should just get rid of both democrats and republicans and start fresh without both of their extreme bias.dooly420

There was no need to go to Iraq and/or Afghanistanin the first place. This whole entire campaign against terrorism is really unnecessary but serves as a front to gain control of Iraqis oil(third largest oil reserves) building Afghani gas pipeline (worth bllions/trillions of dollars, maybe more) and now there going after Irans oil(second largest).

[QUOTE="Video_Game_King"]No, they won't attack us. If they were smart enough to do that, wouldn't they cut down on the attacks until we leave and then follow us back home? We (as in the United States of America) haven't had a major terrorist attack in 6 years, and the political climate does not seem to be leading up to one.Platearmor_6

The London bombings were 2 years ago, are you saying america should just ignore her allies now.

Keeping in mind the Madrid train bombings, let me rephrase that.

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[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...whipassmt

Becuase you had multiple bases in the middle east and you were supporting Israel? Plus you've been screwing things up down there for more than half a century.

Do you even know what jihad is?

What about the palestinians, they also have a right to survive. Your childish logic is ridicolous.

And no, it didn't start in 711...:roll:

They want their homeland back...

and yes, Israel have to defend themselves...what's your point?

There was no need to go to Iraq and/or Afghanistanin the first place. This whole entire campaign against terrorism is really unnecessary but serves as a front to gain control of Iraqis oil(third largest oil reserves) building Afghani gas pipeline (worth bllions/trillions of dollars, maybe more) and now there going after Irans oil(second largest).

Truth_Seekr

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"][QUOTE="jointed"]I fail to see why the terrorists would want to provoke you into bombing them if they actually get what they want...jointed

Becuase you had multiple bases in the middle east and you were supporting Israel? Plus you've been screwing things up down there for more than half a century.

Do you even know what jihad is?

What about the palestinians, they also have a right to survive. Your childish logic is ridicolous.

And no, it didn't start in 711...:roll:

They want their homeland back...

and yes, Israel have to defend themselves...what's your point?

All this war needs to be replaced with just one really big banana cream pie fight.JustPlainLucas