Listen To My Debut Album Before I Mail It In To Major Labels!

You're trying to go for a trippy abstract sound because you're not at a level to create a standard generic sound. There is no structure to these songs, and the mindless strumming of the guitar shows ineptitude hidden under pretentions even I couldn't harbor. Keep trying, you clearly like music and there's always room to improve, but don't expect record labels to show any interest in this; it's much worse than many many unsigned bands at the moment.

You seem to think that it is legitimate because it creates a soundscape, but that's not so. Soundscapes have an insane amount of work put into them, people don't just create a basic and uninteresting series of noises and expect it to tell a story. Listen to some 'Boards of Canada', to get an idea what something with production value sounds like. I'd suggest you start to learn music theory if you haven't already; it really will help you as a musician.

That was terrible.

I can't express myself In any other way right now. But keep practicing...maybe you'll get something interesting later ;)

This Topic has a lot of Face palms.

This Topic has a lot of Face palms.

VivaKatimari

I could see myself enjoying some of it, if I was in the right frame of mind.;) It's not very good though, and no major label or even indie label will go for that.

What is going on in the song "Sentience"? Why would anyone want to pay to listen to that?limpbizkit818

Sounds like a bunch of people hacking up a lung while scraping nails on a chalkboard, honking a car horn, and tuning a guitar.

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BayAreaX

You're trying to go for a trippy abstract sound because you're not at a level to create a standard generic sound. There is no structure to these songs, and the mindless strumming of the guitar shows ineptitude hidden under pretentions even I couldn't harbor. Keep trying, you clearly like music and there's always room to improve, but don't expect record labels to show any interest in this; it's much worse than many many unsigned bands at the moment.

You seem to think that it is legitimate because it creates a soundscape, but that's not so. Soundscapes have an insane amount of work put into them, people don't just create a basic and uninteresting series of noises and expect it to tell a story. Listen to some 'Boards of Canada', to get an idea what something with production value sounds like. I'd suggest you start to learn music theory if you haven't already; it really will help you as a musician.

Dubiosity

I see what youre saying and I even agree with some of it, but from the outset I wanted this album to be free of music theory, free of conventions, sonically jarring, different. This was really just an experiment.

And I actually dont intend to send this into any major labels, maybe some underground ones

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You're trying to go for a trippy abstract sound because you're not at a level to create a standard generic sound. There is no structure to these songs, and the mindless strumming of the guitar shows ineptitude hidden under pretentions even I couldn't harbor. Keep trying, you clearly like music and there's always room to improve, but don't expect record labels to show any interest in this; it's much worse than many many unsigned bands at the moment.

You seem to think that it is legitimate because it creates a soundscape, but that's not so. Soundscapes have an insane amount of work put into them, people don't just create a basic and uninteresting series of noises and expect it to tell a story. Listen to some 'Boards of Canada', to get an idea what something with production value sounds like. I'd suggest you start to learn music theory if you haven't already; it really will help you as a musician.

Boogie_J

I see what youre saying and I even agree with some of it, but from the outset I wanted this album to be free of music theory, free of conventions, sonically jarring, different. This was really just an experiment.

And I actually dont intend to send this into any major labels, maybe some underground ones

56 seconds into Mars Complex it sounds like you were trying to play Slow Hands by Interpol

I think I'd hold off on the mailing....

LSD? Shrooms?

2 options:

1) Your music is WAY ahead of it's time and will not appeal to most people right now

2) It's just not good

I for one think it's okay at times though it often seems too simplistic for my tastes. Either the pace or the amount of beats I hear at a time. Mixing many simple beats together doesn't impress me.

Recording it using that recorder might be your first mistake, and maybe try tuning your guitar. Keep trying though! :)

"i'm creating something new. I'm calling it.... shmusic." I guess you come from the dewey cox shcool of though then.

I stopped listing to Dark Side of the Moon for that? Really TC, your music needs more flow, it just seems like random notes are being hit, like you're trying to make psychedelic music but it comes out as a cheap and bad imitation.

Well buddy, I am a notoriously negative person. Now I didn't like your music, but there were times during that lot that I thought it could be interesting if you added more structure to it. I think you need to spend a lot of time thinking about sounds you want to play and the weight of the pitch bending you applied, because it was a bit too heavy in most places if you know what I mean.

Try and do something like the music in Mass Effect (in terms of repetition and structure) and then it will probably get a much warmer reception here (mass effect in a less synthesizer sort of way).

2 options:

1) Your music is WAY ahead of it's time and will not appeal to most people right now

2) It's just not good

I for one think it's okay at times though it often seems too simplistic for my tastes. Either the pace or the amount of beats I hear at a time. Mixing many simple beats together doesn't impress me.

munu9

There was no beat on this album. the only instrument i used on this album was my guitar, so any beat you heard was me tapping on the back of the neck trying to create my own beat. also, i lack any sort of professional music sofware so i cant even add fake drums, or fake bass. EVERYTHING you hear on that album is my guitar. The only program i used which I could make minor edits is audacity, and thats hardly a home studio

Very trippy indeed. Buckethead digs it though

Cut TC some slack guys...I mean, have you taken the time to go out and make an album?

Whats going on in the song "sentience"? It sounds like you were moving an object around and using the screeching as music..

Im not trying to be rude, but it was rough on the ears( by that I mean some sounds actually hurt my ears a little..). I guess keep trying? Make the music a little smoother.

Whats going on in the song "sentience"? It sounds like you were moving an object around and using the screeching as music..

taj7575

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Whats going on in the song "sentience"? It sounds like you were moving an object around and using the screeching as music..

Oblivionfan10

I think I hear many other things barking also..

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Whats going on in the song "sentience"? It sounds like you were moving an object around and using the screeching as music..

I think I hear many other things barking also..

I was going to listen to them all but couldnt anymore after the fifth one or so and I gotta say you need to find a new hobbie

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[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"] Yeah, and I think I hear a dog barkingOblivionfan10

I think I hear many other things barking also..

Lol were you lisening to this with headphones on? If you werent, dont plant on it. Seriously..My ears are hurtin bad from that. The sounds were really rough.

Trying way way way way to hard to sound Psychedelic/ Space Rock. It sounded like a very crappy Sonic Youth wanna be with some Pixies influence. Your structure is so bad, composition is the worse and articulation isn't horrible but still needs a tone of work.... Good luck :P

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I think I hear many other things barking also..

Lol were you lisening to this with headphones on? If you werent, dont plant on it. Seriously..My ears are hurtin bad from that. The sounds were really rough.

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You yourself have to know it's bad or else you wouldn't have put those insanely accurate poll choices up there.

Boogie_J

I'm from the john cage school of music. honestly i expected the hate, this album definitely isnt for everyone, but hopefully it will find an audience

Not to be disrespectful because I love that your actually going out and doing what you want to do and putting yourself out there but, to put it plainly, you haven't earned the right to do what John Cage did, what I mean is John Cage had a certain goal in mind when composing his music (or lack there of) and what he did, was, in many ways revolutionary from an artistic standpoint. My criticism is that it seems your copyingthat same sort of conceptual, avant-garde sound, but without the heart or the purpose. I mean to say are you happy with what you made? Do you think it's really what you wanted to create and that it's "art"? My critique is not exactly with the sound (although it's a problem) but with the intent.

^^^^By the way that came off way worse than I intended, sorry. Also even though you should look at our criticism, don't take it to heart and please keep doing what you want to do.

Just burned this on a CD and I've been driving around town with the windows down playing this as loud as possible. Not because it's good. It's actually terrible. It's just so laughably bad I wanted to see the reactions I would get bumping my head to this wearing shades. By the looks I was getting I must have looked like a douche bag. I would advise you do not, DO NOT send this to "Major Labels."

I don;t want to be mean or anything...So I won't say anything...........................Darth-Caedus

you do realise yu just posted that music to a load of metalheads.... You should see how the people who like that type of music instead of us.

Whats going on in the song "sentience"? It sounds like you were moving an object around and using the screeching as music..

Im not trying to be rude, but it was rough on the ears( by that I mean some sounds actually hurt my ears a little..). I guess keep trying? Make the music a little smoother.

taj7575

i'm making that screeching on my guitar

Either this is one of the most epic joke threads in a while or I feel like I'm being a real jerk by typing this.

OP asked for an opinion though, so here's another one: Okay, I get that you can use distortion effects.

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You yourself have to know it's bad or else you wouldn't have put those insanely accurate poll choices up there.

Boogie_J

I'm from the john cage school of music. honestly i expected the hate, this album definitely isnt for everyone, but hopefully it will find an audience

You know the whole time I was thinking of John Cage. I'm dead serious, though John Cage wasn't really interested in concepts or meaning behind the sound most of the time.

I really really liked Black Hole Eyes, the reverse loops and delay were very nice. I'm sure you know your guitar is out of tune for most of the things, but I liked some of it, space is not supposed to be so...orderly or Earthly.

If you wanted this to be a label, you'd be amazed what a steady beat and bass line would do for your first track. Other than that, if you added more, it could be more, but then again space is empty.

You are using a whammy bar at the very least. Are you using a slide at one point as well? You may not be using straight up pedals, but the effects in the editor certainly are something, with delay, reverb, and reverse. But I honestly like Black Hole Eyes; I can see some of this stuff being what it is supposed to be, which is good. And the reverse looping had a steadiness to it that was pleasing in a way. I enjoyed it.