Look what one of the greatest US Ally in the middle east wants

That's perfectly legit to destroy all churches.

That's perfectly legit to destroy all churches.

sonicare

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

Matthew-first

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

Matthew-first

The world would be so much better without muslims

The world would be so much better without muslims

IPWNDU2

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] US Army Commanders do not declare war. :roll:

LJS9502_basic

The world would be so much better without extremists

IPWNDU2

Corrected that for you.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

Oh, well... always some smartazz around. :roll:
Don't care who is who...
I have no interest in wars ^^

Matthew-first

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Someone has to correct the dumb asses that are around.

LJS9502_basic

If i said f*** him,nothing will happen,but what if I said f*** him and America,my computer will blow up I guess >.>gubrushadow

Eh... how old are you?
You act a bit immature.

I don't know the ranks in US army... and I don't need to know that.

You are corecting me in an offensive way... with stupid irony.

What's wrong with you people? Why you need to be so such dumb persistent in replies?

Matthew-first

Prophet Mohammed, who said the Arabian Peninsula is to exist under only one religion.

Anyone know what verse that is?

oil>churches

silly TC

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

Eh... how old are you?
You act a bit immature.

I don't know the ranks in US army... and I don't need to know that.

You are corecting me in an offensive way... with stupid irony.

What's wrong with you people? Why you need to be so such dumb persistent in replies?

LJS9502_basic

But you still keep on replying... analize again the conversation. :)

Matthew-first

OT is slow right now and I have almost two hours to the hockey game. So I'm wasting some time. That doesn't mean the conversation is great. You don't offer much in the way of discussion. And now I think I remember your Anti American comments in another thread so you're predictable as well. *yawn*

[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

The world would be so much better without religion

CycleOfViolence

Corrected that for you.

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

The world would be so much better without religion

Inconsistancy

Corrected that for you.

The world would be so much better without muslims

IPWNDU2

We wouldnt need as big a military:P

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

But you still keep on replying... analize again the conversation. :)

LJS9502_basic

OT is slow right now and I have almost two hours to the hockey game. So I'm wasting some time. That doesn't mean the conversation is great. You don't offer much in the way of discussion. And now I think I remember your Anti American comments in another thread so you're predictable as well. *yawn*

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

Corrected that for you.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

But you still keep on replying... analize again the conversation. :)

Matthew-first

OT is slow right now and I have almost two hours to the hockey game. So I'm wasting some time. That doesn't mean the conversation is great. You don't offer much in the way of discussion. And now I think I remember your Anti American comments in another thread so you're predictable as well. *yawn*

No you weren't joking. You bash the US quite a bit. So I'm not buying that BS you are spinning. Immature? Childish? Don't be a hypocrite. All your responses have been nothing BUT childish immature insults. Even when I try to lighten the mood you come back with an insult. You really really are trying to grow that tiny e-peen of yours.

But it's easy to see through your sh*t you're flinging around in here. Oh....you keep responding. Hypocrisy once again.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]Fixed the fix.Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Why don't you guys just admit to intolerance and be done with it?LJS9502_basic

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -Steven Weinberg

Just 'cause a religious person does 'good' things doesn't mean an atheist wouldn't have in the ~same situation...

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I did. You made an erroneous statement mainly to insult the US. I corrected the statement you made that was totally incorrect. You insulted me. I flipped it for you. And then you didn't get a joke. Insulted me for a second time.

OT is slow right now and I have almost two hours to the hockey game. So I'm wasting some time. That doesn't mean the conversation is great. You don't offer much in the way of discussion. And now I think I remember your Anti American comments in another thread so you're predictable as well. *yawn*

LJS9502_basic

No you weren't joking. You bash the US quite a bit. So I'm not buying that BS you are spinning. Immature? Childish? Don't be a hypocrite. All your responses have been nothing BUT childish immature insults. Even when I try to lighten the mood you come back with an insult. You really really are trying to grow that tiny e-peen of yours.

But it's easy to see through your sh*t you're flinging around in here. Oh....you keep responding. Hypocrisy once again.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

I thought, u would stop.

But you keep on the same bull... trying to prove you are smarter or smth...

First of all... I made a joke first... and you got insulted by that?

There are many jokes about different countries... but your american pride cannot accept that.

In my eyes you did offend me... by rolling eyes with the irony of MY lack of knowledge about some us army.
(That I don't even need know anything about coz its not in my business... its only YOURS)


You think I'm anti american? Well, then you are wrong.

Coz I don't like my countries government either... I don't like governement and totalitarianism at all too.
People over you control what are your laws etc. even if you don't agree with that.
You are a prisoner to the elites.

And again... an immature show of your "yawning"

Come on... Grow up.

Matthew-first

No you weren't joking. You bash the US quite a bit. So I'm not buying that BS you are spinning. Immature? Childish? Don't be a hypocrite. All your responses have been nothing BUT childish immature insults. Even when I try to lighten the mood you come back with an insult. You really really are trying to grow that tiny e-peen of yours.

But it's easy to see through your sh*t you're flinging around in here. Oh....you keep responding. Hypocrisy once again.

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

The world would be so much better without religion

Inconsistancy

Corrected that for you.

Better in what sense though?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] I'll tolerate the people of it, but I don't, in any way, see how religion benefits humanity.

Inconsistancy

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -Steven Weinberg

Just 'cause a religious person does 'good' things doesn't mean an atheist wouldn't have in the ~same situation...

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] US Army Commanders do not declare war. :roll:

LJS9502_basic

I would use the term "ally" very loosely. We have oil interests, they have interests in keeping their oil protected. That is not being allies, that is being partners. Saudi is full of radicals, nothing to see here.

Comparing this to Iran, however, is absurd.

So Weinberg's opinion should be shared by everyone? That seems rather bigoted.LJS9502_basic

It'd be nice, then no one would ever use religion as a justification of any action, ever again. And they'd understand that good people are just good, and evil people are just evil.

Seems good to me.

Better in what sense though?

CycleOfViolence

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] I'll tolerate the people of it, but I don't, in any way, see how religion benefits humanity.

Inconsistancy

"Atheism is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes atheism." -Steven Weinberg

Just 'cause a religious person does 'bad' things doesn't mean an atheist wouldn't have in the ~same situation...

See? I can do it too.

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

The world would be so much better without atheism

Inconsistancy

Corrected that for you.

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] You don't? Most religious people just go through living their lives and not mentioning anything about their religion. They also believe in helping others and many do donate to charitable causes or volunteer to help others. I'm not seeing a downside to that....themajormayor

"Atheism is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes atheism." -Steven Weinberg

Just 'cause a religious person does 'bad' things doesn't mean an atheist wouldn't have in the ~same situation...

See? I can do it too.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

"Atheism is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes atheism." -Steven Weinberg

Just 'cause a religious person does 'bad' things doesn't mean an atheist wouldn't have in the ~same situation...

Inconsistancy

See? I can do it too.

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

Better in what sense though?

Inconsistancy

While both points may be true, people will still find justification for their malicious actions via other means.

While both points may be true, people will still find justification for their malicious actions via other means.

CycleOfViolence

How does theism do it? themajormayor

[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

While both points may be true, people will still find justification for their malicious actions via other means.

Inconsistancy

How does theism do it? themajormayor

Burning churches, yay.

But then those are going to be replaced with mosques... Damn...

Elaboratethemajormayor

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB) (lol)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

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If someone actually believed this crap, they'd have a 'justification' for any of these, and there are plenty more.

And wasn't some women put to death, via beheading, in Saudi Arabia for practicing 'sorcery' recently?

Why aren't we bombing them yet?Riyon4589

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]ElaborateInconsistancy

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB) (lol)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

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If someone actually believed this crap, they'd have a 'justification' for any of these, and there are plenty more.

And wasn't some women put to death, via beheading, in Saudi Arabia for practicing 'sorcery' recently?

Ok??? So now you're using quotes from ONE very SMALL religion completely out of context. And it also says thou shalt not kill. So according to your logic every person of this religion who DIDN'T kill someone only did so because their religion said so. So without this religion many more would've died. This possibly explains the genocides of 100 million+ people perpetuated by atheists.

So once again you did NOT show how religion IN GENERAL causes people to do bad things. And also it's shown religion in more cases than not STOPS people from doing bad things.

Here let me illustrate your cherry picking by using an extremely simple religion, Noahidism:

The are the ONLY laws of Noahidism:

1. Prohibition of idolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
2. Prohibition of murder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
3. Prohibition of theft: You shall not steal.
4. Prohibition of sexual immorality: You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, which include adultery, certain forms of incest, homosexual behaviour and bestiality.
5. Prohibition of blasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God's name.
6. Dietary law: Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4, as interpreted in the Talmud(Sanhedrin59a))
7. Requirement to have just laws: Set up a governing body of law (e.g. courts)

How does any of these encourage any bad behavour?

(note: Noahidism is the path non-Jews should take if they believe in Judaism)

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]Elaboratethemajormayor

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives.(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

You should not let a sorceress live. (Exodus 22:17 NAB) (lol)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27 NAB)

Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)

If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed. (Exodus 22:19 NAB)

They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

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If someone actually believed this crap, they'd have a 'justification' for any of these, and there are plenty more.

And wasn't some women put to death, via beheading, in Saudi Arabia for practicing 'sorcery' recently?

Ok??? So now you're using quotes from ONE very SMALL religion completely out of context. And it also says thou shalt not kill. So according to your logic every person of this religion who DIDN'T kill someone only did so because their religion said so. So without this religion many more would've died. This possibly explains the genocides of 100 million+ people perpetuated by atheists.

So once again you did NOT show how religion IN GENERAL causes people to do bad things. And also it's shown religion in more cases than not STOPS people from doing bad things.

Here let me illustrate your cherry picking by using an extremely simple religion, Noahidism:

The are the ONLY laws of Noahidism:

1. Prohibition ofidolatry: You shall not have any idols before God.
2. Prohibition ofmurder: You shall not murder. (Genesis 9:6)
3. Prohibition oftheft: You shall not steal.
4. Prohibition ofsexual immorality: You shall not commit any of a series of sexual prohibitions, which includeadultery, certain forms ofincest,homosexualbehaviour andbestiality.
5. Prohibition ofblasphemy: You shall not blaspheme God's name.
6. Dietary law:Do not eat flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive. (Genesis 9:4, as interpreted in theTalmud(Sanhedrin59a))
7. Requirement to have justlaws: Set up a governing body of law (e.g. courts)

How does any of these encourage any bad behavour?

(note: Noahidism is the path non-Jews should take if they believe in Judaism)