Look what one of the greatest US Ally in the middle east wants

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

[QUOTE="Heisenderp"] US, yes, Europe, hell no.pie-junior

I would actually say the line between religion and politics in Europe is pretty clear, yes there are things like the Queen of Britain being the head of the English Church ,but thats mostly ceremonial, and even then , shes not a politician.

I can't think of much cases where religion and politics (or as a product of it, the state) actively mix and translate into policy.

I was under the impression he said Europe was where religion and politics are sometimes mixed. if it is, its a misunderstanding on my part.

although Im not sure what level of religion exists in US politics.

That's perfectly legit to destroy all churches.

[QUOTE="pie-junior"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"]

I would actually say the line between religion and politics in Europe is pretty clear, yes there are things like the Queen of Britain being the head of the English Church ,but thats mostly ceremonial, and even then , shes not a politician.

I can't think of much cases where religion and politics (or as a product of it, the state) actively mix and translate into policy.

Darkman2007

I was under the impression he said Europe was where religion and politics are sometimes mixed. if it is, its a misunderstanding on my part.

although Im not sure what level of religion exists in US politics.

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]The grand mufti needs to read on own religion. Islam says new churches are not allowed to be newly built but churches that are already standing cannot be destroyed. The same goes for synagogues . Please people do not take this mufti in saudi as authority on Islam. Most Muslims wouldn't evn want to live there. The only reason why Muslims go there is because the kaba is there.Darkman2007

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="helwa1988"]The grand mufti needs to read on own religion. Islam says new churches are not allowed to be newly built but churches that are already standing cannot be destroyed. The same goes for synagogues . Please people do not take this mufti in saudi as authority on Islam. Most Muslims wouldn't evn want to live there. The only reason why Muslims go there is because the kaba is there.helwa1988

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Inconsistancy"] I'll tolerate the people of it, but I don't, in any way, see how religion benefits humanity.

Inconsistancy

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." -Steven Weinberg

Just 'cause a religious person does 'good' things doesn't mean an atheist wouldn't have in the ~same situation...

Oh Muslims.

[QUOTE="jdc6305"]

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

Yes but about about 99.9% our muslim

sexyweapons

Well,can you name anybody else?

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

DigitalExile

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] US Army Commanders do not declare war. :roll:

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]Chickens do not cross roads, it only takes one person to change a lightbulb and no one ever asks "who's there?" when someone knocks on their door, they just look and say "hello".

DigitalExile

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not sure what point you are trying to make......but my point stands. Unequivocally.....

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Matthew-first"]

United States Army commander to his subordinate...

-Sir! Where do we go next?!
-Well, I dunno... let me see...
Vietnam -check (kind of..)
Iraq -Double check
Iran... iran... What the hell is iran?
-Sir! I don't know! Sir!
-Then Bomb it! :D
-Sir! yes, sir!

Matthew-first

Ruthless dictatorships are good if they let the US do what they want. Democracy is bad if they don't let the US do what they want. That basically summarises US dealings in the ME so far.kuraimen

How about you worry about things in your own country instead of one with a higher quality of life like SA ??

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Ruthless dictatorships are good if they let the US do what they want. Democracy is bad if they don't let the US do what they want. That basically summarises US dealings in the ME so far.no-scope-AK47

How about you worry about things in your own country instead of one with a higher quality of life like SA ??

oil>churches

silly TC

Xx_Socrates_xX

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]Ruthless dictatorships are good if they let the US do what they want. Democracy is bad if they don't let the US do what they want. That basically summarises US dealings in the ME so far.kuraimen

How about you worry about things in your own country instead of one with a higher quality of life like SA ??

Internet tough guy you make me laugh you can not even buy a clue. Ever been to the place your talking about I really doubt it SMDH. Go back to your fake reality on whatever video game made you a expert on SA.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

How about you worry about things in your own country instead of one with a higher quality of life like SA ??

no-scope-AK47

Internet tough guy you make me laugh you can not even buy a clue. Ever been to the place your talking about I really doubt it SMDH. Go back to your fake reality on whatever video game made you a expert on SA.

Ruthless dictatorships are good if they let the US do what they want. Democracy is bad if they don't let the US do what they want. That basically summarises US dealings with the world.kuraimen

"Considering the hysteria that besets the West whenever non-authoritative individuals offend Islam – for instance, a fringe, unknown pastor – imagine what would happen if a Christian counterpart to the Grand Mufti, say the Pope, were to declare that all mosques in Italy must be destroyed; imagine the nonstop Western media frenzy that would erupt, all the shrill screams of 'intolerance' and 'bigot,' demands for apologies if not resignation, nonstop handwringing by sensitive politicians, and worse," Raymond Ibrahim of Jihad Watcharticle

I totally agree with that statement from the article

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

How about you worry about things in your own country instead of one with a higher quality of life like SA ??

no-scope-AK47

Internet tough guy you make me laugh you can not even buy a clue. Ever been to the place your talking about I really doubt it SMDH. Go back to your fake reality on whatever video game made you a expert on SA.

Let the savages propegate their silly myth it will eventually lead to their demise.

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] How about you shut the fvck up? I worry and comment on whatever I want.kuraimen

Internet tough guy you make me laugh you can not even buy a clue. Ever been to the place your talking about I really doubt it SMDH. Go back to your fake reality on whatever video game made you a expert on SA.

Don't think a kid with no real world experience should talk about the big picture. There are plenty of topics here in the USA that need attention.

[QUOTE="DigitalExile"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Not sure what point you are trying to make......but my point stands. Unequivocally.....

LJS9502_basic

I am convinced that if there was no religion then there would be heaven on earth, so to speak.

Joshywaa

The world would be so much better without muslims

IPWNDU2

[QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

I am convinced that if there was no religion then there would be heaven on earth, so to speak.

wis3boi

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

I am convinced that if there was no religion then there would be heaven on earth, so to speak.

LJS9502_basic

Let the savages propegate their silly myth it will eventually lead to their demise.

Skarwolf

[QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

Let the savages propegate their silly myth it will eventually lead to their demise.

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Skarwolf"]

Let the savages propegate their silly myth it will eventually lead to their demise.

Victorious_Fize

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]Yeah becuase as you can see, islam is the slowest growing faith in the world, the least converted to religion, islam is dead, the propaganda against islam is doing great....... :| :roll:

GrayF0X786

That's quite terrifying. Next thing we know the western world will turn into the middle east and women will have to wear burkas.

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Islam's rise is largely attribute to its slow insulation of Saudi Arabia and its likes, friend...

RadecSupreme

That's quite terrifying. Next thing we know the western world will turn into the middle east and women will have to wear burkas.

We aren't trying to change their ways of life or convert them. If they want to destroy all of the churches and be a pure islamic state let them. Only ignorant people believe we are in the middle east fighting Islam.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]Yeah becuase as you can see, islam is the slowest growing faith in the world, the least converted to religion, islam is dead, the propaganda against islam is doing great....... :| :roll:

GrayF0X786

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Islam's rise is largely attribute to its slow insulation of Saudi Arabia and its likes, friend...

Victorious_Fize

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] le fuq? people from all over the world are coming to islam no matter what cr*p people are being fed, even in America its the fastest growing way of life.

GrayF0X786

I think this thread might encapsulate the worst aspects of OT.

Made as an anti US thread, it turned into a big political fight, then a big religious debate (which was more of a big religious fight), then it got a bunch of replies. This just needs to turn into some vegan argument and it will be the worst thread ever made on OT.

I think this thread might encapsulate the worst aspects of OT.

Made as an anti US thread, it turned into a big political fight, then a big religious debate (which was more of a big religious fight), then it got a bunch of replies. This just needs to turn into some vegan argument and it will be the worst thread ever made on OT.

SPYDER0416

The world would be so much better without muslims

IPWNDU2

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

[QUOTE="jdc6305"]I was just answering the question.

H_M_1

Well,can you name anybody else?

What the?You label George Bush as a terrorist.....AND Barrack Obama?

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

[QUOTE="jdc6305"]Yes Tim Mcveigh

BossPerson

Yes but about about 99.9% our muslim

Ok so you named named 2 people is that it?Their are DOZENS of terrorists who are Muslims,just look at the FIBs Most Wanted Terrorist list

[QUOTE="H_M_1"][QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

Well,can you name anybody else?

sexyweapons

What the?You label George Bush as a terrorist.....AND Barrack Obama?

[QUOTE="sexyweapons"]

[QUOTE="H_M_1"] Certainly, George Bush, Barrack Obama, Tommy Robinson (EDL leader), Nick Griffin (BNP leader), Irish Republic Army, Israel and the list goes on. Terrorism isn't just about 'Religions and Bombs' my friend, Terrorism is ' The calculated use of Violence (or the threat of violence) against civilians in order to attain goals that are POLITICAL or RELIGIOUS or IDEOLOGICAL in nature, this is done through intimidation or coercion or installing fear' notice how just Religion isn't what terrorism is about. And I think the above mentioned people satisfy the definition of 'terrorism' through their actions.H_M_1

What the?You label George Bush as a terrorist.....AND Barrack Obama?

So what your telling me is Bush invaded Iraq and that makes him a terrorist.If you your talking about all the civilian deaths that happens in war in sucks but it happens.Also I agree their are some terrorist who aren't muslim but what I am saying is the majority are.