Luke was more powerful than Vader and even Mace Windu, because

Vadar owned Luke in every fight and once he saw Luke using his anger to fight him he let him win. Unfortunately the emperor didnt foresee Anakin still having any humanity left in him.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

[QUOTE="GreyskullPower"]WHO IS MARCELLUS WALLACE?!

THE_DRUGGIE

What ain't no country I ever heard of!

They speak English in What!?

Omg omg omg...

Epic... :D

Hk47 would pwn tham all. Stupid meat bags.

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Palpatine is the best here, why? He over threw the Republic, wiped out the jedi, started a war that he was guranteed to win (when both sides are your lapdogs, you can't lose), and is all round pure awesome.

BUT, considering that all palpatine did was plot and scheme (defeated by Windu, but VADER saved him), and vader was the one who did all the dirty work. I'd say

vader > palpatine

and he lost the war

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

Palpatine is the best here, why? He over threw the Republic, wiped out the jedi, started a war that he was guranteed to win (when both sides are your lapdogs, you can't lose), and is all round pure awesome.

BUT, considering that all palpatine did was plot and scheme (defeated by Windu, but VADER saved him), and vader was the one who did all the dirty work. I'd say

vader > palpatine

and he lost the war

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

No, Palps let windu win so he would get sympathy with Anakin, and Vader was the only one of teh too who would be able to walk into the temple without being noticed. And Palpatine only lost the Galatic Civil war due to Ewoks....................scorch-62

Because of budget constraints:P

I'm watching Star Wars this week, in fact I only have Episode III left to see... I always start with Episode IV.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="lordreaven"]

No, Palps let windu win so he would get sympathy with Anakin, and Vader was the only one of teh too who would be able to walk into the temple without being noticed. And Palpatine only lost the Galatic Civil war due to Ewoks....................Baranga

Because of budget constraints:P

I'm watching Star Wars this week, in fact I only have Episode III left to see... I always start with Episode IV.

I'm sure child actors were paid even less than half:P

But the funny thing is that ewoks were really supposed to be wookies, Lucas confirmed it in the Revenge of the Sith DVD commentary. The suits and set designs would've been too expensive and hard to work with.

Also, I don't think that Kashyyyk would have made a good place to put a top-secret superweapon.PannicAtack

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Also, I don't think that Kashyyyk would have made a good place to put a top-secret superweapon.scorch-62

Mace Windu > everything

but he was black, which significantly shortened his life expectancy.

I don't know where everyone is getting their information from... but Luke was more powerful than Vader because he was the child of a Force sensitive person and a Jedi (at least I think Padme was Force sensitive). Him being the child of a Jedi increases his power exponentially, especially when considering his father was the most powerful Jedi up until that point to ever be seen (retcons suck, midichlorians suck).

Vader could crush a man's neck from far away. Luke could move moons. 'Nuff ****ing said.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Also, I don't think that Kashyyyk would have made a good place to put a top-secret superweapon.PannicAtack

If you're talking movie wise yes.

But as far as the Star Wars Extended Universe goes he is like God Incarnated

Kiuk

Yeah, Luke is essentially Space Jesus in the EU. Just some of his powers in the EU, taken from Wookiepedia:

• Luke safely landed himself, Isolder, and Isolder's fighter from a free fall drop from orbit with the Force
• During the Battle of Dathomir, Luke flew the Millennium Falcon single-handedly using only the Force, manipulating its controls and operating it with a skill that not even a full crew could manage.
• During the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke used the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant.[76] In addition, Luke later used the Force to crush the rebuilt fortress of Darth Vader to rubble, shattering the building piece by piece and throwing it into the oceans of Coruscant.
• During the Battle of Dantooine of the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke tricked a vehicle's dovin basals into colliding its own black hole against itself by using the Force to hold the void against the pull of the dovin basals; then reversing the direction of his own pull, adding it to the pull of the dovin basals, so that the void would collide against the spine of the vehicle
• Toward the end of the Swarm War, Luke used the Force to call all the Jedi across the galaxy to Ossus to make the announcement of him taking on the role as Grand Master of the Jedi Order, and to issue his views about the role of the Order to his Jedi.
• Right before the Battle of Fondor, Luke made Caedus "see" a fleet of ships, causing him to panic in front of his navy. Luke directed it right at Caedus in general, to show him what he can do and to scare Caedus into talking with Luke.
• In 43.5 ABY, after spending time with the Aing-Tii Luke was taught the Fold space ability which allowed him to teleport objects.
• During the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar Luke was described as a maelstrom of Force energy, against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused was he that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force to such a degree that the Jedi Master did not seem to be there, physically or as an individual personality. Luke's control over his lightsaber blade was so great that he was said to might as well have been wielding ten, or twenty lightsabers against the Vong.
• While battling UnuThul, Luke was able to resist the combined Force power of the Colony and triumph. When UnuThul attempted to Force Push the Grand Master, Luke rooted himself in the heart of the Force so strongly that it was said that he had become the very essence of the immovable object, and that not even the black hole at the center of the galaxy could move him

No other Jedi or even Sith comes close to that level of brokeness.