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Because they aren't actually capable of writing music with any sort of depth to it. It's just shallow crap.
[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]
Because they aren't actually capable of writing music with any sort of depth to it. It's just shallow crap.
TaCoDuDe
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A good opinion though.[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]
Because they aren't actually capable of writing music with any sort of depth to it. It's just shallow crap.
HexedPelican
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A good opinion though. Thank's man. I have support! :D[QUOTE="HexedPelican"]A good opinion though. DmadFearmongerThank's man. I have support! :DIt's no problem, I support your opinion 110 percent :D
[QUOTE="Forza4Champion"]
Its Funny How people here Hate Popular Artists like Justin Beiber..
whats wrong with his music? hes made some good songs,hes only 17 and hes already a millionaire.
Lady Gaga is another Example of a Artist that gets hate for no reason.she came from literally nothing and became an Icon.
so why are these Popular artists not respected here?
why isnt Popular music not so popular amongst users here?
KingsofQueens
Enjoy being moderated :D
bieber is ok...if his fans werent so crazy
lady gaga is a madonna wanna be......thats it there is nothing else to say about her lol
Thank's man. I have support! :D[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="HexedPelican"]A good opinion though. TaCoDuDe
What makes your opinion so much better than everyone elses?
I listen to music of all sorts. Whenever the pop music on the radio is playing in my mothers car I listen to it to see if there's anything positive about it. I can't find it. It's all a bunch of people singing about getting pissed, having sex and "getting down it da club with girls with da big big boobies". Also the music itself is the same simple beat in every song. And a few electronic sounds Whereas the stuff I listen to has so much dpeth put into it. Creative lyrics, meaningful lyrics and talented musicians. The music itself is also more intelligently composed. Not just the same beat and a few electronics. But a group of musicians playing perfectly with each other. Dream Theater is a good example of what I'm trying to say. Check 'em out.I can't stand 95% of popular music at a given time, especially over the past 10-years or so. I find pop music today to be incredibly trite and ephemeral; artists are made because of their appeal to a large demographic that the record companies want to make lots of money off of. For example, Just Beiber is a good looking teen who, with the help of the best voice augmenting technology money can buy, sound soulful and catchy to lyrics someone else wrote for them. In other words, the music is secondary to the artist's image and how likely 7 to 16-year old girls will lionize them. Pop music that us based primarily on the music the artist produces in a thing of the past unfortunately. One must dig deep in pop music's past or scrounge the internet and other resources to find good contemporary bands that actually produce their own good music. So yes, I deeply resent pop music and think it is vastly a big pile of. . well you know :p
I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.coolkid93Example of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single one
I learned to appreciate everything, from Black Sabbath to Ice T, from The Beatles to Lynyrd Skynyrd, from Elvis to Taylor Swift. I just dislike the one's that imo has no efforts put into it or down right unintelligent.
[QUOTE="coolkid93"]I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.DmadFearmongerExample of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single oneI heard this the other day on the radio in my friend's car. However, it was a college station, so it might not count :P Certainly didn't expect that band to come on in prime hours.
Aye. If there's one trait I value in music, it's sincerity, but I'm not going to shut out all insincere music. It just won't hold the same kind of place in my heart, but I won't stop myself from liking it or anything if it's good. Same goes with concept albums. I'm a sucker for them, but I won't ignore non-concept albums. And concept albums don't even need to be super complex like the prog albums of old. The Antlers is theirs well with "Hospice", which was a simple, bare bones concept album ripe with sincerity and revolving around the loss of a significant other. It acts as a good reminder that wordplay and its delivery is just as vital and legitimate as technical complexity :PI learned to appreciate everything, from Black Sabbath to Ice T, from The Beatles to Lynyrd Skynyrd, from Elvis to Taylor Swift. I just dislike the one's that imo has no efforts put into it or down right unintelligent.
stevoqwerty
Its Funny How people here Hate Popular Artists like Justin Beiber..
whats wrong with his music? hes made some good songs,hes only 17 and hes already a millionaire.
Lady Gaga is another Example of a Artist that gets hate for no reason.she came from literally nothing and became an Icon.
so why are these Popular artists not respected here?
why isnt Popular music not so popular amongst users here?
Forza4Champion
Since I haven't listened to either, I can't tell you whether or not they're good. But I think that your reasoning is sort of messed up.
I mean...you're either good, or you're not. Justin Bieber being only 17 doesn't make his music worse, I'll absolutely agree to that. But it doesn't make the music BETTER. It's still the same damn music. I'm not gonna think negatively because he's only 17. I'm also not going to basically say, "he's good for a 17 year old". The hell with age. The stuff is either good, or it's not.
Same thing with Lady Gaga. I don't listen to her music either. The fact that she "came from nothing" also doesn't somehow make her music better or worse. She doesn't get bonus points for having started life underprivileged. She either makes good music, or she doesn't.
Others will certainly disagree. Others will say that context defines everything, and that the artist is just as important as the art. I mostly disagree. I admit that there can be exceptions, but overall I find that the art should stand out on its own. If it really is good/bad, then I should USUALLY be able to call it good/bad without knowing how old Justin Bieber is, or how poor Lada Gaga was growing up. If that extra baggage is not IN the art, then the QUALITY of the art doesn't depend on that stuff. I should be able to evaluate Justin Bieber's music without knowing his age, the same way that I should be able to enjoy goddamn Cloverfield without keeping up on all of the supplemental extraneous material. I generally think that works should stand on their own, and neither get points added or deducted because of **** like "this artist is poor/young, so give him/her a break." It's either good, or it isn't.
[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]
Because they aren't actually capable of writing music with any sort of depth to it. It's just shallow crap.
TaCoDuDe
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Well...TC's been bashing rock and metal since the beginning of the thread, for no apparent reason...I guess you missed that part?Why can't we all get along :(
Go to sputnik, there you will see real elitism :) Anyway there are obvious reasons we hate pop music, simple, boring, generic, just made for cashing in, awful lyrics, etc etc.Its Funny How people here Hate Popular Artists like Justin Beiber..
whats wrong with his music? hes made some good songs,hes only 17 and hes already a millionaire.
Lady Gaga is another Example of a Artist that gets hate for no reason.she came from literally nothing and became an Icon.
so why are these Popular artists not respected here?
why isnt Popular music not so popular amongst users here?
Forza4Champion
[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="coolkid93"]I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.LockedgeExample of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single oneI heard this the other day on the radio in my friend's car. However, it was a college station, so it might not count :P Certainly didn't expect that band to come on in prime hours. That's not my type of music you posted there so I wouldn't consider that good (my opinion). But "Black and Yellow" by Wiz. K. , is pretty good (IN MY OPINION). There are a few pretty good songs that will come on the radio (seems rare to me though). I wouldn't consider them my favorites and definitely not the best but pretty good. But I don't really listen to mainstream. I may turn to it every once and a while.
[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]Example of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single onecoolkid93I heard this the other day on the radio in my friend's car. However, it was a college station, so it might not count :P Certainly didn't expect that band to come on in prime hours. That's not my type of music you posted there so I wouldn't consider that good (my opinion). But "Black and Yellow" by Wiz. K. , is pretty good (IN MY OPINION). There are a few pretty good songs that will come on the radio (seems rare to me though). I wouldn't consider them my favorites and definitely not the best but pretty good. But I don't really listen to mainstream. I may turn to it every once and a while. Well, black and yellow is definitely a good sports team/city pride kind of track. Can't hate it based on that premise.
[QUOTE="coolkid93"]I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.DmadFearmongerExample of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single one
You want me to show you one good mainstream pop song? Well......
EVERY TAYLOR SWIFT SONG EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Example of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single one[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="coolkid93"]I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.stevoqwerty
You want me to show you one good mainstream pop song? Well......
EVERY TAYLOR SWIFT SONG EVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nerrrrrrrr Downt liek et! Nerrrrrrr :PI dont hate mainstream, I loved 90's mainstream, there is just no good mainstream artists out right now. I try to ignore them but current mainstream is too in your face that I cant even walk into a lower class fast food joint without hearing something.
And people who listen to popular think they're cool because, well, they listen to popular music! See, everyone's cool.People who don't like mainstream music think they're cool cause they don't listen to popular music.
Bucked20
Yeah, they're not exactly the sort of mainstream TC's talking about. He's talking about those awful pop acts the entire population knows. Not the real stuff half the population knowsI like mainstream music like Muse, Radiohead, and Nirvana.
SirWander
And people who listen to popular think they're cool because, well, they listen to popular music! See, everyone's cool.I'm not cool. Proud of it[QUOTE="Bucked20"]
People who don't like mainstream music think they're cool cause they don't listen to popular music.
PernicioEnigma
[QUOTE="SirWander"]Yeah, they're not exactly the sort of mainstream TC's talking about. He's talking about those awful pop acts the entire population knows. Not the real stuff half the population knowsI like mainstream music like Muse, Radiohead, and Nirvana.
DmadFearmonger
Oh, wellI suppose I sort of just ignored it
to address TC's opening post: most people here have some degree of good taste. :P
Lady Gaga is another Example of a Artist that gets hate for no reason.she came from literally nothing and became an Icon.
Forza4Champion
funny, she actually hails from the upper east side and grew up remarkably privileged. to say she 'came from nothing' is perfectly absurd.
[QUOTE="Forza4Champion"]
Lady Gaga is another Example of a Artist that gets hate for no reason.she came from literally nothing and became an Icon.
flordeceres
funny, she actually hails from the upper east side and grew up remarkably privileged. to say she 'came from nothing' is perfectly absurd.
She also had a burlesque show, and then released two albums under her real name. They both tanked so her or the record company reinvented her into Madonna and she became huge.She also had a burlesque show, and then released two albums under her real name. They both tanked so her or the record company reinvented her into Madonna and she became huge.APiranhaAteMyVa
that isn't exactly true, her 'burlesque show' (as she refered to it, didn't really follow the guidelines of one but wtv) already had early showings of her eccentricity; she wore jewel-laced bikinis and danced to heavy metal tunes with lady starlight. even her early songs as stefani germanotta bore nods to her fixation with fame.
People hating popular stuff for being popular are lame. Seriously, get off your high horse.
I enjoy listening to Metal stuff like Burzum, Ulver, Nile, Black Sabbath, Opeth and Death.
But at the same I absolutely love listening to Michael Jackson too.
How can you think this is crap?
Lady Gaga is bumping too.
At the same time we have people hating on music because It's unpopular /cough/ Forva4champion /cough/People hating popular stuff for being popular are lame. Seriously, get off your high horse.
I enjoy listening to Metal stuff like Burzum, Ulver, Nile, Black Sabbath, Opeth and Death.
But at the same I absolutely love listening to Michael Jackson too.How can you think this is crap?
Lady Gaga is bumping too.m25105
[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"]
She also had a burlesque show, and then released two albums under her real name. They both tanked so her or the record company reinvented her into Madonna and she became huge.flordeceres
that isn't exactly true, her 'burlesque show' (as she refered to it, didn't really follow the guidelines of one but wtv) already had early showings of her eccentricity; she wore jewel-laced bikinis and danced to heavy metal tunes with lady starlight. even her early songs as stefani germanotta bore nods to her fixation with fame.
She may have had some elements of craziness in her burlesque shows, but from what I've heard and seen from her early performances she seemed pretty normal. I think her fascination for fame makes the whole thing worse, because it is a sure sign that she will whore herself out in any way possible for attention.[QUOTE="flordeceres"]
[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"]
She also had a burlesque show, and then released two albums under her real name. They both tanked so her or the record company reinvented her into Madonna and she became huge.APiranhaAteMyVa
that isn't exactly true, her 'burlesque show' (as she refered to it, didn't really follow the guidelines of one but wtv) already had early showings of her eccentricity; she wore jewel-laced bikinis and danced to heavy metal tunes with lady starlight. even her early songs as stefani germanotta bore nods to her fixation with fame.
She may have had some elements of craziness in her burlesque shows, but from what I've heard and seen from her early performances she seemed pretty normal. I think her fascination for fame makes the whole thing worse, because it is a sure sign that she will whore herself out in any way possible for attention.At least she can sing though. Unlike Kesha.
[QUOTE="coolkid93"]I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.DmadFearmongerExample of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tq-UsaRchI
There is some good mainstream music...
[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"] She may have had some elements of craziness in her burlesque shows, but from what I've heard and seen from her early performances she seemed pretty normal. I think her fascination for fame makes the whole thing worse, because it is a sure sign that she will whore herself out in any way possible for attention.
TaCoDuDe
At least she can sing though. Unlike Kesha.
Yeah, I don't think she is bad at all, she writes catchy songs and entertains well. I just don't think that she is this huge controversial "new" talent to the industry.Example of a good song? 'cause I ain't heard a single one[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"][QUOTE="coolkid93"]I don't listen to that crap. Every once and a while there will be a few songs that are actually good but majority of it sucks. Some just be hatin'. Me? I don't hate the artist. I just don't like their songs.imaps3fanboy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBG7P-K-r1Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tq-UsaRchI
There is some good mainstream music...
Not the sort of mainstream I meant, I meant electro pop crap.Please Log In to post.
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