Man has 22 MA Degrees, 5 PhDs, and 3 D.Lits

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

1. No one here said that knowledge has to come from a degree/college...you just took a counter argument to a point that no one made
-all here would agree that knowledge can be gleaned from a variety of sources

2. I don't think you were kidding...but that is neither here nor there...you need to make yourself more clear or say so when someone calls you out on it...not 10 posts later…unless you don't really care what other posters think…but then don't get upset when they make assumptions based on the limited information available
-you are a new poster here. how is anyone supposed to have any feel for you or how you post

rawsavon

Now you have a feel for how I post. Whining just gets on my nerves.

No, I don't...takes a lot more than 1 thread

And no one was whining in this entire thread...on either side of the debate...don't know where you got that from
-unless you are just making the statement "i don't like whining"
-well "i don't like coffee"

If it takes more than one thread to get a feel for how I post, then don't jump down my throat based on mere speculation. And I'm only saying that you're whining, and I wouldn't have said it unless I thought you were.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"] where did he say that?Tjeremiah1988

Page four. . .

Yeah, losers like class work.

Fourth post from the top on page four, at twenty posts per page.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

Now you have a feel for how I post. Whining just gets on my nerves.

TheAbbeFaria

No, I don't...takes a lot more than 1 thread

And no one was whining in this entire thread...on either side of the debate...don't know where you got that from
-unless you are just making the statement "i don't like whining"
-well "i don't like coffee"

If it takes more than one thread to get a feel for how I post, then don't jump down my throat based on mere speculation. And I'm only saying that you're whining, and I wouldn't have said it unless I thought you were.

What did I whine about :?
-just quote the post where I did...would like to see what you call whining

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]It depends upon the person who is doing the essays and the homework doesn't it? Certainly a person can do these things without learning from them, thereby making them pointless. Should the person actually learn from doing the essays and the homework, then it ceases to be pointless. However, from a personal standpoint, I learn better when I'm interested in the subject, and nothing bores me more than doing essays and homework. I would sooner read a book, commit the pages to memory than to do worksheets on it. Essays are a bit iffy to me. I don't mind doing them when I feel the need to, however, I would rather recline on the grass on a nice morning with a book on the subject in my hands than sit in a dorm, writing the essay.Vandalvideo

If a person doesn't learn from the essays and the homework because they're "doing it wrong" then it is pointless to them as you say. To those that do learn from essays and homework, then it isn't pointless and can be beneficial, even to autodidacts. It sounds as though you and I are in agreement.

If a person doesn't learn from the essays and the homework because they're "doing it wrong" then it is pointless to them as you say. To those that do learn from essays and homework, then it isn't pointless and can be beneficial, even to autodidacts. It sounds as though you and I are in agreement.TheAbbeFaria

[QUOTE="rawsavon"]

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]

If it takes more than one thread to get a feel for how I post, then don't jump down my throat based on mere speculation. And I'm only saying that you're whining, and I wouldn't have said it unless I thought you were.

TheAbbeFaria

What did I whine about :?
-just quote the post where I did...would like to see what you call whining

You're whining right now. Who cares if I said that people are losers for liking homework? Jeesh, don't you have better things to worry about then something stupid as that? Christ, I can think of more important things, but you're obviously offended so I'm sorry. Hopefully, that's good enough for you, if not, then I don't know what else.

Meh, I am stuck at work...so no, at this particular moment I have nothing better to worry about or to do

And all you ever had to say was that you were being sarcastic or (if you meant it) stand your ground and be ready to debate (which is what I was going to do...not whine...I don't whine...debate yes, whine no)

Refer to my sig for my thoughts on this subject. hamstergeddon

Normally I agree, but in his twilight years a man should be permitted some self indulgence. If the guy was my age then it'd be different.

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]If a person doesn't learn from the essays and the homework because they're "doing it wrong" then it is pointless to them as you say. To those that do learn from essays and homework, then it isn't pointless and can be beneficial, even to autodidacts. It sounds as though you and I are in agreement.Vandalvideo

The essays are pointless for those who choose not to learn from them. In general, whether an essay is important really depends upon the person. It is not a question of how pointless or important an essay so much as how pointless or important it is to a person doing them. Thus it doesn't reflect upon the essays themselves, should the person not learn from them, but it does reflect upon process of doing the essay. If he does it and doesn't learn, then how important was the essay to him? Should he discard it, he can't use it for supplemental purposes later. Altogether, his doing the essay was pointless because he didn't get anything from it. But everyone is different. Someone who does learn from doing essays, and who uses it for supplemental purposes later will find more importance in doing essays.

edit: However, I think you should be careful in your wording. You're assuming that a person has a poor work-ethic because he doesn't learn from doing essays and that he is "doing it wrong." You need to prove to me absolutely that a person has a poor work-ethic if he doesn't learn from essays.

Holy crap. Someone should have told this guy that while learning is a life-long process, it's not all there is to life.F1_2004

The man has a family and has retired from what appears to have been a lucrative career as a professor. Where's the lack of life?

The essays are pointless for those who choose not to learn from them. In general, whether an essay is important really depends upon the person. It is not a question of how pointless or important an essay so much as how pointless or important it is to a person doing them. Thus it doesn't reflect upon the essays themselves, should the person not learn from them, but it does reflect upon process of doing the essay. If he does it and doesn't learn, then how important was the essay to him? Should he discard it, he can't use it for supplemental purposes later. Altogether, his doing the essay was pointless because he didn't get anything from it. But everyone is different. Someone who does learn from doing essays, and who uses it for supplemental purposes later will find more importance in doing essays. TheAbbeFaria

I never understood people like this. I get that they like learning, but getting that many higher degrees just seems pointless. If you're old money then I guess it makes sense since you'll never have to work a day in your life and thus going back to get degree after degree to fill up your time is reasonable, but for everyone else it defeats the purpose of getting a degree, especially a PhD

I never understood people like this. I get that they like learning, but getting that many higher degrees just seems pointless. If you're old money then I guess it makes sense since you'll never have to work a day in your life and thus going back to get degree after degree to fill up your time is reasonable, but for everyone else it defeats the purpose of getting a degree, especially a PhD

gameguy6700

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]The essays are pointless for those who choose not to learn from them. In general, whether an essay is important really depends upon the person. It is not a question of how pointless or important an essay so much as how pointless or important it is to a person doing them. Thus it doesn't reflect upon the essays themselves, should the person not learn from them, but it does reflect upon process of doing the essay. If he does it and doesn't learn, then how important was the essay to him? Should he discard it, he can't use it for supplemental purposes later. Altogether, his doing the essay was pointless because he didn't get anything from it. But everyone is different. Someone who does learn from doing essays, and who uses it for supplemental purposes later will find more importance in doing essays. Vandalvideo

I have thus clarified what I meant by pointless concerning the doing of essays. This is entirely a subjective matter, not an objective one because the importance of the essay is based upon the person doing it. As for proof, well it should be obvious. Something is pointless to a person if he doesn't get the point of it. It is not objectively or absolutely pointless because there are those who do get the point.

I have thus clarified what I meant by pointless concerning the doing of essays. This is entirely a subjective matter, not an objective one because the importance of the essay is based upon the person doing it. As for proof, well it should be obvious. Something is pointless to a person if he doesn't get the point of it. It is not objectively or absolutely pointless because there are those who do get the point.TheAbbeFaria

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Holy crap. Someone should have told this guy that while learning is a life-long process, it's not all there is to life.Theokhoth

The man has a family and has retired from what appears to have been a lucrative career as a professor. Where's the lack of life?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"]Holy crap. Someone should have told this guy that while learning is a life-long process, it's not all there is to life.F1_2004

The man has a family and has retired from what appears to have been a lucrative career as a professor. Where's the lack of life?

So what should he have done? Party? Play videogames? Get drunk on the weekends?

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I never understood people like this. I get that they like learning, but getting that many higher degrees just seems pointless. If you're old money then I guess it makes sense since you'll never have to work a day in your life and thus going back to get degree after degree to fill up your time is reasonable, but for everyone else it defeats the purpose of getting a degree, especially a PhD

rawsavon

A hobby that consumes your entire life? Yes. If you don't know much about PhD programs you probably think it's just like normal schooling. It isn't. PhD programs are jobs. Hence the reason why univeristiespay doctoral students to go to school. Most programs won't even allow you to be employed while you're a graduate student because you're literally expected to do nothing but research and dissertation work the entire time. I don't know how this guy managed to be a professor while working on PhDs, but I get the feeling he probably earned them simultaneously and/or the standards at the universities he went to were much lower than American universities, and he only became a professor after finishing those degrees.

Holy crap. Someone should have told this guy that while learning is a life-long process, it's not all there is to life.F1_2004

The man has a family and has retired from what appears to have been a lucrative career as a professor. Where's the lack of life?

[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

The man has a family and has retired from what appears to have been a lucrative career as a professor. Where's the lack of life?

Theokhoth

So what should he have done? Party? Play videogames? Get drunk on the weekends?

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]I have thus clarified what I meant by pointless concerning the doing of essays. This is entirely a subjective matter, not an objective one because the importance of the essay is based upon the person doing it. As for proof, well it should be obvious. Something is pointless to a person if he doesn't get the point of it. It is not objectively or absolutely pointless because there are those who do get the point.Vandalvideo

You need to look at what else is being said in conjunction with the word pointless. I'm not saying that essays are pointless the end. I'm saying that essays are pointless depending upon the person doing it. An essay is pointless to a person who does not learn from it. Of course, he could learn from the essay, but if he has not and choses not to, then where is the potential? How can that potential exist, if he has made the decision not to learn from the essay?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="F1_2004"] It's in the time spent getting ~30 degrees. F1_2004

So what should he have done? Party? Play videogames? Get drunk on the weekends?

What does it mean to "live life"? If it's doing what you enjoy then that's exactly what he's done. If it's getting a career then that's exactly what he's done. If it's having a family then that's exactly what he's done. How has he not lived life?

You need to look at what else is being said in conjunction with the word pointless. I'm not saying that essays are pointless the end. I'm saying that essays are pointless depending upon the person doing it. An essay is pointless to a person who does not learn from it. Of course, he could learn from the essay, but if he has not and choses not to, then where is the potential? How can that potential exist, if he has made the decision not to learn from the essay? TheAbbeFaria

[QUOTE="F1_2004"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

So what should he have done? Party? Play videogames? Get drunk on the weekends?

Theokhoth

What does it mean to "live life"? If it's doing what you enjoy then that's exactly what he's done. If it's getting a career then that's exactly what he's done. If it's having a family then that's exactly what he's done. How has he not lived life?

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I never understood people like this. I get that they like learning, but getting that many higher degrees just seems pointless. If you're old money then I guess it makes sense since you'll never have to work a day in your life and thus going back to get degree after degree to fill up your time is reasonable, but for everyone else it defeats the purpose of getting a degree, especially a PhD

A hobby that consumes your entire life? Yes. If you don't know much about PhD programs you probably think it's just like normal schooling. It isn't. PhD programs are jobs. Hence the reason why univeristiespay doctoral students to go to school. Most programs won't even allow you to be employed while you're a graduate student because you're literally expected to do nothing but research and dissertation work the entire time. I don't know how this guy managed to be a professor while working on PhDs, but I get the feeling he probably earned them simultaneously and/or the standards at the universities he went to were much lower than American universities, and he only became a professor after finishing those degrees.

[QUOTE="TheAbbeFaria"]You need to look at what else is being said in conjunction with the word pointless. I'm not saying that essays are pointless the end. I'm saying that essays are pointless depending upon the person doing it. An essay is pointless to a person who does not learn from it. Of course, he could learn from the essay, but if he has not and choses not to, then where is the potential? How can that potential exist, if he has made the decision not to learn from the essay? Vandalvideo

I would argue with you further, but I have things to attend to. I do find this debate to be quite stimulating though, and I find it quite rewarding to argue with someone with this profound sense of logic. I take it that you're a law student? If so, it makes sense.

It appears to be recreational to him, similar to the time that some people can spend fishing or playing videogames.Travo_basic

I would argue with you further, but I have things to attend to. I do find this debate to be quite stimulating though, and I find it quite rewarding to argue with someone with this profound sense of logic. I take it that you're a law student? If so, it makes sense.TheAbbeFaria

[QUOTE="Travo_basic"] It appears to be recreational to him, similar to the time that some people can spend fishing or playing videogames.rawsavon

That's incredible. I feel inadequate with my one bachelors degree. :cry:AirGuitarist87

I have two and I feel the same way. :cry:

What a waste. There is absolutely no point in having that many degrees. If this guy is really so smart, he should be concentrating in one area to help advance the human race.psychobrew

[QUOTE="rawsavon"] -some say it is waste...what about your hobbies? litewo

What a waste. There is absolutely no point in having that many degrees. If this guy is really so smart, he should be concentrating in one area to help advance the human race.psychobrew

I don´t really get why you´re having a botheration with this? Do you feel threatened by his academic prowess, somehow? Fragile ego, did you drop out of college because you couldn´t handle the material, i mean what?

He is doing nothing wrong, nothing wrong at all, or at the very most, he is not doing more wrong than the next person. Get off his back and go advance the human race will ya.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"]That's incredible. I feel inadequate with my one bachelors degree. :cry:Theokhoth

I have two and I feel the same way. :cry:

[QUOTE="Travo_basic"] It appears to be recreational to him, similar to the time that some people can spend fishing or playing videogames.rawsavon

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]What a waste. There is absolutely no point in having that many degrees. If this guy is really so smart, he should be concentrating in one area to help advance the human race.BiancaDK

I don´t really get why you´re having a botheration with this? Do you feel threatened by his academic prowess, somehow? Fragile ego, did you drop out of college because you couldn´t handle the material, i mean what?

He is doing nothing wrong, nothing wrong at all, or at the very most, he is not doing more wrong than the next person. Get off his back and go advance the human race will ya.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Travo_basic"] It appears to be recreational to him, similar to the time that some people can spend fishing or playing videogames.Tjeremiah1988

I don't quite understand how he has a family. He was a professor and earned his degrees on the side, there is no way he could of spent much time with his wife and kids. I' not sure what woman would waste her time with a man that would rather study then spend time with her. STAR_Admiral

I don't quite understand how he has a family. He was a professor and earned his degrees on the side, there is no way he could of spent much time with his wife and kids. I' not sure what woman would waste her time with a man that would rather study then spend time with her. STAR_Admiral

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Travo_basic"] It appears to be recreational to him, similar to the time that some people can spend fishing or playing videogames.Tjeremiah1988

At 65 years old, why should he? The average life expectancy for a man in his area is seventy. Why should he not partake in self indulgence? This is no different from spending your twilight years on a golf course or in Vegas.

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="Travo_basic"] It appears to be recreational to him, similar to the time that some people can spend fishing or playing videogames.Tjeremiah1988