Marijuana is Safer Than Alcohol (POLL)

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#1 ChowsSN
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Based on personal experience as well as reading articles online, I've come to the conclusion and agreement that marijuana is indeed safer than alcohol. It's true that smoking pot can cause some memory loss and other relatively small short-term problems, but they are nothing compared to the dangers of alcoholism. I'd like to hear from you guys and your views about this statement: Marijuana is safer than alcohol.

EDIT: Doing neither is safer, duh. But I'm not talking about that case right now.

EDIT v2.0: NOW WITH A POLL!

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#2 mark30001
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not doing it is safer than doing it.

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The catch to pot is that even if it's moderately less harmful to your body than alcohol, you still stink.
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#4 LJS9502_basic
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There are a few fallacies in your conclusion. First alcoholism is a disease...and it doesn't affect everyone that tastes alcohol. Second...not everyone abuse alcohol. Third...alcohol in moderation has health benefits.
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#5 RiSkyBiZ-13
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I've always agreed
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#6 ElectronicMagic
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Yeah marijuana is safer than alcohol. I believe a study that came out of Cambridge University came to the conclusion that alcohol was worse than marijuana, but so was tobacco.

EDIT: But personally marijuana never did anthing for me, so I don't see why so many people like it.

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#7 IcE-Fu-
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it's also safer than regular smoking I think
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#8 awesomeface
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Marajuana may be safer than alcohol, i don't know, i'm not a doctor.

But what I do know, is that marajuana still messes you up.

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The catch to pot is that even if it's moderately less harmful to your body than alcohol, you still stink.DJ_Lae

thought you were a mod

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#10 SeanUD1
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I agree.
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#11 ChowsSN
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The catch to pot is that even if it's moderately less harmful to your body than alcohol, you still stink.DJ_Lae

Stink, as in literally?

There are a few fallacies in your conclusion. First alcoholism is a disease...and it doesn't affect everyone that tastes alcohol. Second...not everyone abuse alcohol. Third...alcohol in moderation has health benefits.LJS9502_basic

Well, I'm not saying everyone that drinks becomes an alcoholic, but you'll have to agree that alcoholism plagues, America at least, much more than marijuana abuse.

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#12 C_BozkurT_C
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even Josh Howard admitted to smoking weed and he's still a great player.
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#13 foxhound_fox
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Well of course it is, its LD50 is so high that no human can take in enough THC to actually overdose.
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#14 LJS9502_basic
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Well, I'm not saying everyone that drinks becomes an alcoholic, but you'll have to agree that alcoholism plagues, America at least, much more than marijuana abuse.

ChowsSN

Depends. Marijuana can negatively affect some people/lives. It's all individual.

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#15 RiSkyBiZ-13
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Well, this guy agrees with you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hufiwGlHSVI
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#16 Pugsley_91
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Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

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#17 SuperDuper755
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How about this:

If you need to do drugs to have fun, you have a problem.

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#18 RiSkyBiZ-13
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How about this:

If you need to do drugs to have fun, you have a problem.

SuperDuper755

Sounds like a bumper sticker =P

Besides, this guy proves you ALL wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hufiwGlHSVI

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#19 Sexy_Pirate
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Shooting yourself in the foot is healthier than shooting yourself in the chest, too.
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#20 SuperDuper755
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[QUOTE="SuperDuper755"]

How about this:

If you need to do drugs to have fun, you have a problem.

RiSkyBiZ-13

Sounds like a bumper sticker =P

Besides, this guy proves you ALL wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hufiwGlHSVI

Sounds like a bumper sticker.

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it depends on the person one of my friends did weed and then did coke because when he was high he was more open to try other drugs thus it can be a gateway drugs to some weaker minded people

weed also can weaken your **** but over a long period of time like smoking weed often of like a 6 year period

other then that Weed is perfectly fine

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Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

Pugsley_91

Incorrect. Cannabis has never killed brain cells. Alcohol does. You have your "facts" backwards. If you study cannabis honestly and without bias, you'd soon discover that cannabis actually stimulates brain cells, promotes brain cell growth, and increases connectivity between the left and right brains.

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#23 bobaban
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Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

Pugsley_91


WHAT?! Alcohol doesn't kill brain cells (oh yeah it does), doesn't cause memory loss (people pass out) and no short term problems(puking)? Have you even had alcohol?

Weed on the other hand is relatively non-toxic - you can't even overdose on it. However with alcohol you can DIE by drinking a ton in short period of time. It happens I knew a guy in my school that died by drinking too much. Please spread your lies elsewhere.

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#24 Sexy_Pirate
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[QUOTE="Pugsley_91"]

Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

Deity_Slapper

Incorrect. Cannabis has never killed brain cells. Alcohol does. You have your "facts" backwards. If you study cannabis honestly and without bias, you'd soon discover that cannabis actually stimulates brain cells, promotes brain cell growth, and increases connectivity between the left and right brains.

lol?

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#25 foxhound_fox
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Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

Pugsley_91

I'd like to see some real scientific data to back up these claims you are making, from a reliable source, like Harvard.

Most people drink in moderation? Right... :| So those many hundreds of deaths per year from alcohol intoxication are just myths created by pro-marijuana people?
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Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

Pugsley_91
weed does not kill brain cells, alcohol does. nor does it not cause memory loss. you just don't pay close enough attention to remember anything.
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#27 Sexy_Pirate
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it not cause memory lossdooly420

Objection!

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#28 bobaban
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it depends on the person one of my friends did weed and then did coke because when he was high he was more open to try other drugs thus it can be a gateway drugs to some weaker minded people

weed also can weaken your **** but over a long period of time like smoking weed often of like a 6 year period

other then that Weed is perfectly fine

Norg

Did your friend try alcohol before he tried weed? Because if anything it's alcohol that opens the door to new things. I know most people tried alcohol before pot.

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even Josh Howard admitted to smoking weed and he's still a great player.C_BozkurT_C

Some of the greatest athletes off all time consume cannabis, and did so during their carrers. Many doctors, surgeons, lawyers, bankers and other successful professionals have used and still currently use cannabis as well. You'd be suprised at how many people actually use it, and the high level of success those individuals currently sit at.

The government lied to you. It will not kill your brain, nor make you lazy. Some people see that and then just expect it to happen. This is what we call placebo effect. If you expect it to make you lazy because you heard that it will, then it probably will make you lazy once you try it. If you leave your experience open to your own interperetation, you'll realize you don't feel lazy at all, and in fact, probably more creative and motivated to try new things (not new drugs).

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#30 RiSkyBiZ-13
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I've heard rumors all my life that the only reason weed is illegal is because the gov't can't tax it. I don't pretend to understand why, it's just what I've always heard.
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#31 Deity_Slapper
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[QUOTE="Deity_Slapper"]

Incorrect. Cannabis has never killed brain cells. Alcohol does. You have your "facts" backwards. If you study cannabis honestly and without bias, you'd soon discover that cannabis actually stimulates brain cells, promotes brain cell growth, and increases connectivity between the left and right brains.

Sexy_Pirate

lol?

If you read up on real studies done by doctors and scientists (not biased, paid smear campaigns by the government) then I guarantee you won't be LOL'ing.

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#32 Norg
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thats true u can never OD on WEED LOL he will just eat everything in your kitchen and then sleep for about 2 days :lol:
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#33 Sexy_Pirate
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I can't for the life of me figure out why people defend Mary J. Doing it is your own business but trying to say that it is good for you has to be crossing some lines.
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Weed kills brain cells, causes memory loss and short-term problems.

Alcohol doesn't.

If you're an alcoholic then you're gonna have liver problems. But most people drink in moderation and that majority won't be harmed. Meanwhile, even if you smoked weed in moderation, you're still killing off your brain cells and promoting memeory loss and short term problems for the future.

Pugsley_91
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#35 RiSkyBiZ-13
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I think the only thing to be agreed upon is alcohol is legal, weed isn't. The juice isn't worth the squeeze, when it comes to weed. I'm not going to preach about killing brain cells, making you dumb, making you drop out of school, all of that crap's saved for bumper stickers and tee shirts. But let's face it, who wants a criminal record? Not me. I don't think it's worth it.
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i agree with the tc alcohol is dangerous compared to pot. my uncle told me stories that he used to smoke pot all day and drive and didn't even come close to crashing while if he drank and then drove and crashed and ended up breaking his arm and leg. besides that pot has medicinal uses while alcohol creates them. in fact from what i've heard alcohol is more dangerous than any drug. now i don't believe pots pros outweigh cons but if anything is going to be legal it should be pot not alcohol. also I myself have never done either pot or drank alcohol
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i agree with the tc alcohol is dangerous compared to pot. my uncle told me stories that he used to smoke pot all day and drive and didn't even come close to crashing while if he drank and then drove and crashed and ended up breaking his arm and leg. besides that pot has medicinal uses while alcohol creates them. in fact from what i've heard alcohol is more dangerous than any drug. now i don't believe pots pros outweigh cons but if anything is going to be legal it should be pot not alcohol. also I myself have never done either pot or drank alcoholGod_of_duty117
alcohol isn't more dangerous, but it's legal and thus more widely used. Because of that, you'd have more cases of bad things than a drug such as heroin
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i agree with the tc alcohol is dangerous compared to pot. my uncle told me stories that he used to smoke pot all day and drive and didn't even come close to crashing while if he drank and then drove and crashed and ended up breaking his arm and leg. besides that pot has medicinal uses while alcohol creates them. in fact from what i've heard alcohol is more dangerous than any drug. now i don't believe pots pros outweigh cons but if anything is going to be legal it should be pot not alcohol. also I myself have never done either pot or drank alcoholGod_of_duty117

Driving under the influence of marijuana isn't any brighter than driving under the influence of alcohol. They can BOTH impair the driver.:|

And alcohol has health benefits. Research please.

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alcohol isn't more dangerous, but it's legal and thus more widely used. Because of that, you'd have more cases of bad things than a drug such as heroinDivergeUnify

Technically due to its effects and lower LD50 (lethality) it is more dangerous because you can kill yourself by overdosing and stumbling into or off of somewhere you shouldn't.
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[QUOTE="God_of_duty117"]i agree with the tc alcohol is dangerous compared to pot. my uncle told me stories that he used to smoke pot all day and drive and didn't even come close to crashing while if he drank and then drove and crashed and ended up breaking his arm and leg. besides that pot has medicinal uses while alcohol creates them. in fact from what i've heard alcohol is more dangerous than any drug. now i don't believe pots pros outweigh cons but if anything is going to be legal it should be pot not alcohol. also I myself have never done either pot or drank alcoholLJS9502_basic

Driving under the influence of marijuana isn't any brighter than driving under the influence of alcohol. They can BOTH impair the driver.:|

true, but the method in which they're affected can change how actual dangerous it is. i think alcohol would affect everything like your vision, depth perception, reaction times and such. weed( from what friends say) only makes things seem to be moving slow. so i guess if you take your time driving carefully you'd be alright. HOWEVER I'M NOT ADVOCATING DRINKING WHILE HIGH :P
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Driving under the influence of marijuana isn't any brighter than driving under the influence of alcohol. They can BOTH impair the driver.:|

And alcohol has health benefits. Research please.

LJS9502_basic

You're just trying to justify your usage. :lol:

No, just kidding, you're right, alcohol can be beneficial is small doses. But most people don't use small doses. Wine is healthy as well as beer, but if you're drinking that hard stuff, be ready for some health problems down the road.

And cannabis impairs driving ability to a much lesser degree than alcohol. I'm speaking from experience.

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true, but the method in which they're affected can change how actual dangerous it is. i think alcohol would affect everything like your vision, depth perception, reaction times and such. weed( from what friends say) only makes things seem to be moving slow. so i guess if you take your time driving carefully you'd be alright. HOWEVER I'M NOT ADVOCATING DRINKING WHILE HIGH :P
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Both affect your ability to drive. Don't try to make an argument that one is better. And pot smokers have caused accidents.

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[QUOTE="C_BozkurT_C"]even Josh Howard admitted to smoking weed and he's still a great player.Deity_Slapper

Some of the greatest athletes off all time consume cannabis, and did so during their carrers. Many doctors, surgeons, lawyers, bankers and other successful professionals have used and still currently use cannabis as well. You'd be suprised at how many people actually use it, and the high level of success those individuals currently sit at.

Do you know how many people have used it and are NOT successful? I dont have any facts, but im guessing that the percentage of people who smoke pot are less successfull than the people who dont.

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#45 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Driving under the influence of marijuana isn't any brighter than driving under the influence of alcohol. They can BOTH impair the driver.:|

And alcohol has health benefits. Research please.

Deity_Slapper

You're just trying to justify your usage. :lol:

No, just kidding, you're right, alcohol can be beneficial is small doses. But most people don't use small doses. Wine is healthy as well as beer, but if you're drinking that hard stuff, be ready for some health problems down the road.

And cannabis impairs driving ability to a much lesser degree than alcohol. I'm speaking from experience.

And you and some others are trying to justify YOUR usage of pot. Nonetheless, the percentage of people that actually abuse alcohol is small. And driving should be done under neither condition.

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[QUOTE="God_of_duty117"]i agree with the tc alcohol is dangerous compared to pot. my uncle told me stories that he used to smoke pot all day and drive and didn't even come close to crashing while if he drank and then drove and crashed and ended up breaking his arm and leg. besides that pot has medicinal uses while alcohol creates them. in fact from what i've heard alcohol is more dangerous than any drug. now i don't believe pots pros outweigh cons but if anything is going to be legal it should be pot not alcohol. also I myself have never done either pot or drank alcoholLJS9502_basic

Driving under the influence of marijuana isn't any brighter than driving under the influence of alcohol. They can BOTH impair the driver.:|

And alcohol has health benefits. Research please.

well true but it's effect isn't as bad. and pot pros outweigh alcohols pros. also there something i forgot to add my uncle told me about how when his freinds smoked pot they got funny but he knew some people that got violent when they drank. and yes my uncle tells me a lot of stories he's a classic sterio type of people who smoke pot alot

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[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"] true, but the method in which they're affected can change how actual dangerous it is. i think alcohol would affect everything like your vision, depth perception, reaction times and such. weed( from what friends say) only makes things seem to be moving slow. so i guess if you take your time driving carefully you'd be alright. HOWEVER I'M NOT ADVOCATING DRINKING WHILE HIGH :P
LJS9502_basic

Both affect your ability to drive. Don't try to make an argument that one is better. And pot smokers have caused accidents.

you seemd to skip the jist of what I was trying to get at( and I said both affect your ability). Also never DENIED potsmokers have caused accidents
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Do you know how many people have used it and are NOT successful? I dont have any facts, but im guessing that the percentage of people who smoke pot are less successfull than the people who dont.SuperDuper755

I don't have concrete numbers either, but I do know what I know, I know WHO I know, and I know myself. Everyone that I know who smokes herb, is NOT an idiot. Some people who smoke herb do it for the wrong reasons (they think it's a party favor) and those are people I avoid. They're the ones who make cannabis consumers look bad.

Almost all the successful people I know are current cannabis users. Yes, current. Almost all of them, maybe 90%.

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#49 Deity_Slapper
Member since 2008 • 2615 Posts

And you and some others are trying to justify YOUR usage of pot. Nonetheless, the percentage of people that actually abuse alcohol is small. And driving should be done under neither condition.

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I was implying that with my laughing smilie. Relax LJ...

Nothing wrong with justifying something that is relatively harmless to a bunch of clueless folks who don't know any better. Keep drinking, I don't mind. I'm pretty sure you're smart enough not to be an fool about it.

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#50 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="SuperDuper755"]Do you know how many people have used it and are NOT successful? I dont have any facts, but im guessing that the percentage of people who smoke pot are less successfull than the people who dont.Deity_Slapper

I don't have concrete numbers either, but I do know what I know, I know WHO I know, and I know myself. Everyone that I know who smokes herb, is NOT an idiot. Some people who smoke herb do it for the wrong reasons (they think it's a party favor) and those are people I avoid. They're the ones who make cannabis consumers look bad.

Almost all the successful people I know are current cannabis users. Yes, current. Almost all of them, maybe 90%.

Well...going by anecdotal evidence solely...I know the opposite to be true. Now what?