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-contrary to popular belief, marijuan does not cause lung cancer. in fact, it doesn't cause any sort of disease.

-in order to suffer a minor heart attack from marijuana use, one must smoke 136 joints, in a period of 6 days. now, imagine eating 136 cheese burgers in a period of 6 days...

-it is impossible to become physically addicted to marijuana; it doesn't contain nicotine or any other addictive properties.

-only one person has died from marijuana use, and it was from choking on their own vomit.

-bruce lee was an avid marijuan smoker. before his death, he and his mistress smoked marijuana. however, doctors confirmed his death wasn't linked to marijuana at all. it was a man made pill which caused an allergic reaction in his brain.

-george washington cultivated marijuana. though he didn't smoke it, he praised it for it's durability & strength.

-early assassins were given marijuana for the most dangerous missions; there was no other way for them to do it, they were too afraid. this lead them to be called hashasshins

if you can't tell, i'm pro-legalization.

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#2 nintend-man86
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fun facts for the day:marujana

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#3 raven_squad
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Thanks for the info. I'm firmly against legalization of any drugs, including Marijuana. If it ever does manage to get legalized, I hope those who buy it are taxed into the ground. :D
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#4 GabuEx
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...Do you want us to discuss anything, or are you just stating this for the record? :P

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#5 BumFluff122
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where did you get these facts from?
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#7 Kurushio
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Im not for it but if it does like the other poster said hopefully the government would be able tax it even higher than cigs and maybe hurt the drug dealers a little bit.
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All you posted was statements that you claim are facts. Weed is addicting and there is lots of evidence.

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May you share that evidence please?
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#9 fatzebra
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First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

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#10 cs45F
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Thanks for the info. I'm firmly against legalization of any drugs, including Marijuana. If it ever does manage to get legalized, I hope those who buy it are taxed into the ground. :D raven_squad
Except that would be impossible because if it was taxed you could still get where you have been all along that's a failed statement.
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#11 BumFluff122
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Also you may want to read this article on the possible links between marijuana and cancer http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htm
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#12 Shrapnel99
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I didn't know marijuana was spelt marijuan :|

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#13 LeGoofyGoober
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All you posted was statements that you claim are facts. Weed is addicting and there is lots of evidence.

roulettethedog



actually, i did research. in debate i went up against a guy who was against it. for once in that ****i actually did the work and research. so i know what im talking about. also, how is marijuana addicting, if it has no addictive properties, whatsoever?

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#14 LeGoofyGoober
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Also you may want to read this article on the possible links between marijuana and cancer http://lungcancer.about.com/od/causesoflungcance1/f/marijuana.htmBumFluff122


that myth has been debunked over a thousand times.

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#15 fatzebra
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[QUOTE="roulettethedog"]

All you posted was statements that you claim are facts. Weed is addicting and there is lots of evidence.

LeGoofyGoober



actually, i did research. in debate i went up against a guy who was against it. for once in that ****i actually did the work and research. so i know what im talking about. also, how is marijuana addicting, if it has no addictive properties, whatsoever?

How about you respond to my post buddy

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#16 cs45F
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When will people get it that weed has no side affects other than the fact you have to breathe in smoke and to fix that you can use a vaporizer.
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it should obviously be completely legal but the big wigs in medicine businesses who along with other corporations ultimately run this country can't find a way to make maximum profit from it so it will remain illegal.
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LeGoofyGoober
Did you even happen to read the article? You stated that before. However new information has come up. Merely because you are set in your beliefs does not mean that new information that can point toward somethign else will show itself eventually.
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First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

fatzebra



i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.

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When will people get it that weed has no side affects other than the fact you have to breathe in smoke and to fix that you can use a vaporizer.cs45F
That's a little misleading. There are side effects...and yes even undesired ones for some people.
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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]BumFluff122
Did you even happen to read the article? You stated that before. However new information has come up. Merely because you are set in your beliefs does not mean that new information that can point toward somethign else will show itself eventually.



i read the article. the risk is FAR less then smoking cigarettes, IF, it is even true. which i highly doubt. so in conclusion. if you smoke a joint every day, you will get lung cancer when you're like, 75, basically.

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[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

LeGoofyGoober



i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.

it specifically causes damage to cells in the lungs. It causes the cells to mutate. Cancer is the result of mutating cells.
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

LeGoofyGoober



i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.

you can never have too much love :oops:

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First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

fatzebra

Most of the harm from it right now is due to lack of standarization. There are ways to get high from weed that are a lot less harmful than smoking a joint as well. Marijuana itself may not be addicted to it, the only reason people might become dependant on it are due to the chemicals released in the brain that cause pleasure (can't think of word right now). Anything that causes pleasure can make someone dependant on it, it just so happens that marijuana causes a lot more pleasure than most things.

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#25 LeGoofyGoober
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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

BumFluff122



i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.

it specifically causes damage to cells in the lungs. It causes the cells to mutate. Cancer is the result of mutating cells.



but like i said, the article states it is a very, very small risk. even so, it's only a theory. not the word "probably" not "will" in the article.

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Marijuana is addictive and it can cause cancer.

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[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

LeGoofyGoober



i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.

Okay, it causes harm and should be use din moderation. Two sides of the fence have established this. Now I did this to make a point. Let me reiterate. IT CAN CAUSE HARM, and should be used in MODERATION. Does anyone, on either side, disagree with that? If not, then it should be totally legal, no questions asked.

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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

First of all, I'm all for legalization. But two of your points are total bs. The smoke you inhale can and does affect your risk of lung cancer. It doesn't matter what leaf you smoke, smoke inhaled directly to lungs causes harm. Period. Secondly, while not an addictive drug, people do become dependent on it. The "Smoke weed err day" saying gets thrown around like a joke. Weed can kill motivation and will to help ones self. Again, legalize it, but please, as with anything, use in moderation.

fatzebra



i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.

Okay, it causes harm and should be use din moderation. Two sides of the fence have established this. Now I did this to make a point. Let me reiterate. IT CAN CAUSE HARM, and should be used in MODERATION. Does anyone, on either side, disagree with that? If not, then it should be totally legal, no questions asked.



of course it should be used in moderation. sorry i didn't state that in my original post.

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#29 LeGoofyGoober
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...Do you want us to discuss anything, or are you just stating this for the record? :P

GabuEx



a little of this, a little of that. don't ban me?

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#30 fatzebra
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"]

[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]

i never once said it was harmless, "buddy". obviously it carries harm, but not to the extant that the government and your parents will make you believe. lastly, i am aware it kills moderation if abused. but then again, too much of anything is a bad thing. that saying is universal with everything.LeGoofyGoober

Okay, it causes harm and should be use din moderation. Two sides of the fence have established this. Now I did this to make a point. Let me reiterate. IT CAN CAUSE HARM, and should be used in MODERATION. Does anyone, on either side, disagree with that? If not, then it should be totally legal, no questions asked.



of course it should be used in moderation. sorry i didn't state that in my original post.

No it's fine, I'm on your side. My point is, EVERYTHING has risks of some sort. Some worse than others. But damn it if you can smoke a cigarette, why not this? That's my point.

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#31 _en1gma_
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Marijuana is addictive and it can cause cancer.

SuperVegeta518
You don't have to smoke it (so the actual substance--THC--that causes the high is not cancerous) and it is not physically addictive. Why does that even matter?
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but like i said, the article states it is a very, very small risk. even so, it's only a theory. not the word "probably" not "will" in the article.LeGoofyGoober
It doesn't matter if it is very very small risk. It does still cause lung cancer. You stated it as fact that marijuana does not cause lung cancer when the complete opposite is true.
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Mental illnesspossibly is linked to marijuana...

At least, in Australia research has been done linking marjiuana use to bipolar disorder/manias.

I don'thave the link, but watched an hour long documentary about it...it had a lot of doctors and mental health practitionersopining...

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#34 fatzebra
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Mental illnesspossibly is linked to marijuana...

At least, in Australia research has been done linking marjiuana use to bipolar disorder/manias.

I don'thave the link, but watched an hour long documentary about it...it had a lot of doctors and mental health practitionersopining...

Stowik
I know two people who smoke weed regularly and are bipolar/unable to hold a relationship.
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[QUOTE="SuperVegeta518"]

Marijuana is addictive and it can cause cancer.

_en1gma_
You don't have to smoke it (so the actual substance--THC--that causes the high is not cancerous) and it is not physically addictive. Why does that even matter?

Yea who doesn't like brownies?
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[QUOTE="Stowik"]

Mental illnesspossibly is linked to marijuana...

At least, in Australia research has been done linking marjiuana use to bipolar disorder/manias.

I don'thave the link, but watched an hour long documentary about it...it had a lot of doctors and mental health practitionersopining...

fatzebra
I know two people who smoke weed regularly and are bipolar/unable to hold a relationship.

And I know 25 at least that are completely fine. What people need to acknowledge is that some doctors oppose marijuana solely because it threatens their market share. I'm sure many people here know what the Partnership For a Drug Free America is. What many people do not know is that organization is heavily funded by pharmacuetical corporations and also big tobacco and Alcohol companies. The people who control heavy shares of the market don't want that to change. I know marijuana is not without potential risks, but what in this life is 100% perfectly safe no matter what?
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Right. So why can't we all acknowledge weed carries risks but so does everything else we indulge in (e.g. cigs) so therefore should be legal. Okay, any opposers to that statement?
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"][QUOTE="Stowik"]

Mental illnesspossibly is linked to marijuana...

At least, in Australia research has been done linking marjiuana use to bipolar disorder/manias.

I don'thave the link, but watched an hour long documentary about it...it had a lot of doctors and mental health practitionersopining...

Shhadow_Viper

I know two people who smoke weed regularly and are bipolar/unable to hold a relationship.

And I know 25 at least that are completely fine. What people need to acknowledge is that some doctors oppose marijuana solely because it threatens their market share. I'm sure many people here know what the Partnership For a Drug Free America is. What many people do not know is that organization is heavily funded by pharmacuetical corporations and also big tobacco and Alcohol companies. The people who control heavy shares of the market don't want that to change. I know marijuana is not without potential risks, but what in this life is 100% perfectly safe no matter what?

The documentary was made in Australia and for all I know marijuana is legal there.

The only thing I know about marijuana use is that MORE THAN 25 of my friends who smoked weed ended up washing cars for living while the rest of us went to college and got jobs.

I'm 30 years old, so maybe I'm too young to know everything, but in my experience the ONLY responsible people I know who smoked weed quit at some point because it was incompatible with adulthood...at least, working, raising a family, keeping a job, etc.

By the way, it's illegal...

I don't care if you want to smoke pot and feel that people who work their butts off to go to medical school and practice medicine and obey the laware up late at night worrying about some losers tuning out from reality and stealing market share...it just doesn't sound reasonable to me.

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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]but like i said, the article states it is a very, very small risk. even so, it's only a theory. not the word "probably" not "will" in the article.BumFluff122
It doesn't matter if it is very very small risk. It does still cause lung cancer. You stated it as fact that marijuana does not cause lung cancer when the complete opposite is true.



actually no. the article never said it "does." you're just saying it does so you sound more legit. tell me, how many people have contracted lung cancer in the U.S. due to marijuana, in the past century? none. i think thats all the proof you need.

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I smoked pot for 11 years, multiple times a day, from hash to skunk to hydro laced with horse tranq. It was very difficult to give up, harder than cigarettes, harder than xanax. It is very muchly addictive :(

I also got acute anxiety disorder and heart palpitations from it. Anyway if they legalise it, the cigarette companys will pump them full of chemicals like they do with there tobacco and you'll be back to getting cancer.

If you smoke it my advice is have it in moderation and avoid hydroponics.

kate_jones



wtf? you laced it with horse tranquilizer. that was your problem.

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Right. So why can't we all acknowledge weed carries risks but so does everything else we indulge in (e.g. cigs) so therefore should be legal. Okay, any opposers to that statement?fatzebra
Come on important point right here, if we all agree on this we can end the discussion nicely.
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[QUOTE="fatzebra"]Right. So why can't we all acknowledge weed carries risks but so does everything else we indulge in (e.g. cigs) so therefore should be legal. Okay, any opposers to that statement?fatzebra
Come on important point right here, if we all agree on this we can end the discussion nicely.



i couldn't agree more. but marijuana has been demonized to the point of no return.

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[QUOTE="LeGoofyGoober"]but like i said, the article states it is a very, very small risk. even so, it's only a theory. not the word "probably" not "will" in the article.BumFluff122
It doesn't matter if it is very very small risk. It does still cause lung cancer. You stated it as fact that marijuana does not cause lung cancer when the complete opposite is true.

too a degree

there are 3 or for chemicals in marijuana that are potentionally cancurous, there are over 70 in cigarettes.

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Right. So why can't we all acknowledge weed carries risks but so does everything else we indulge in (e.g. cigs) so therefore should be legal. Okay, any opposers to that statement?fatzebra

Sure why not, some good would come of it, like not having to go to some dodgy drug dealers.

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#46 BumFluff122
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actually no. the article never said it "does." you're just saying it does so you sound more legit. tell me, how many people have contracted lung cancer in the U.S. due to marijuana, in the past century? none. i think thats all the proof you need.LeGoofyGoober
The main problem with your argument is that there is no proof either way. The article goes into this. However there is scientific evidence that marijuana smoke does damage cells in the lungs. This damage, more than likely, causes cancer in some individuals due to mutations. The evidence points toward sa probable link. For someone to say that there is absolutely no links when modern evidence suggests there is is completely crazy.
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#47 links136
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I still don't understand how marijuana is illegal while mcdonalds is still legal. One has to give. Every bad side effect of weed is 10 times worse with mcdonalds.

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#48 Stowik
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Numerous studies have shown marijuana smoke to contain carcinogens and to be an irritant to the lungs. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50-70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke. Marijuana users usually inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers do, which further increase the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke. Marijuana smokers show dysregulated growth of epithelial cells in their lung tissue, which could lead to cancer;8 however, a recent case-controlled study found no positive associations between marijuana use and lung, upper respiratory, or upper digestive tract cancers.9 Thus, the link between marijuana smoking and these cancers remains unsubstantiated at this time.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

Ok, so marijuana contains more cancer causing properties than tobacco but AS OF YET the link has not been PROVEN.

If as many people smoked marijuana as smoked cigarettes, then I think we might substantiate that link.

Oh, wait, CIGARETTE SMOKING WAS GOOD FOR YOU UNTIL AROUND THE 1960's...remember?

Just because a study has not substantiated something yet does not mean that common sense is not applicable.

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#50 kate_jones
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wtf? you laced it with horse tranquilizer. that was your problem.

LeGoofyGoober

No it came that way, found out afterwards, only had that once through no intention of my own.