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The drug companies would never allow this to happen, they make too much money from over the counter and perscription drugs that weed can replace at a much lower price.. That the drug companies have absolutely no control over this product. sSubZerOodrug companies have no control over tobacco sales either though right? and tobacco is technically a drug anyway.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The drug companies would never allow this to happen, they make too much money from over the counter and perscription drugs that weed can replace at a much lower price.. That the drug companies have absolutely no control over this product. imthemostwanteddrug companies have no control over tobacco sales either though right? and tobacco is technically a drug anyway.
technically, yes, but its not exactly medicine.
marijuana, on the other hand,has numerous pharmaceutical uses and health benefits
[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Ignorant only because I don't think it's a good idea for people to smoke pot ? please. Go find something else to relieve your stress that doesn't bring any harm to the people that surround you and yourself if you smoke pot and if that's why you support it. And don't call anyone ignorant again or you might get modded (I'm not doing anything this time). You have no right to call me ignorant as to telling me that you're superior to me only because I don't support the legalization of stupid drug..cyberdarkkidIt doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities. You want it legal for your own personal reasons and putting aside it's consequences that it might bring to other people. That is unbelievably selfish of you as well. :| And there are a lot of people who have made it without pot. People can make it without pot. Don't give me that bull****. Legalizing marijuana is not going to have an impact on people who don't smoke it. There will obviously be regulations in place. Of course people can make it without marijuana...everyone can. :| What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Also, it isn't just personal reasons. Marijuana can help a lot of people (medicinally) and I am a firm supporter of using marijuana to help cancer patients, people with sleep problems, hypertension, etc.
[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"] "I'm not going to take this further with you, you seem to be blinding yourself." Haha. Nothing I say will make you any less ignorant. So I'll just leave it at that._en1gma_Ignorant only because I don't think it's a good idea for people to smoke pot ? please. Go find something else to relieve your stress that doesn't bring any harm to the people that surround you and yourself if you smoke pot and if that's why you support it. And don't call anyone ignorant again or you might get modded (I'm not doing anything this time). You have no right to call me ignorant as to telling me that you're superior to me only because I don't support the legalization of stupid drug.. It doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities.I find it hard to swallow that you are really a full time engineering student and employee, who somehow manages to find the time to go to the gamespot forums,yet can't find the time to go jog for 20-30 minutes a day. I seem to manage just fine, and I'm a full time engineering student, as well as member of the marching band and pep band. I still find time to get things done.
It doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities.I find it hard to swallow that you are really a full time engineering student and employee, who somehow manages to find the time togo to thegamespot forums,yet can't find the time to go jog for 20-30 minutes a day. I seem to manage just fine, and I'm a full time engineering student, as well as member of the marching band and pep band, but I still find time to get things done. Eh...I am often an insomniac. I have a full time internship and sometimes I post on gamespot then as well. I do exercise...but I can't do it as a routine. Too robotic for me. I skate and hike when I can.[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Ignorant only because I don't think it's a good idea for people to smoke pot ? please. Go find something else to relieve your stress that doesn't bring any harm to the people that surround you and yourself if you smoke pot and if that's why you support it. And don't call anyone ignorant again or you might get modded (I'm not doing anything this time). You have no right to call me ignorant as to telling me that you're superior to me only because I don't support the legalization of stupid drug..Vaasman
It doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities.I find it hard to swallow that you are really a full time engineering student and employee, who somehow manages to find the time to go to the gamespot forums,yet can't find the time to go jog for 20-30 minutes a day. I seem to manage just fine, and I'm a full time engineering student, as well as member of the marching band and pep band. I still find time to get things done.[QUOTE="_en1gma_"][QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] Ignorant only because I don't think it's a good idea for people to smoke pot ? please. Go find something else to relieve your stress that doesn't bring any harm to the people that surround you and yourself if you smoke pot and if that's why you support it. And don't call anyone ignorant again or you might get modded (I'm not doing anything this time). You have no right to call me ignorant as to telling me that you're superior to me only because I don't support the legalization of stupid drug..Vaasman
when your folks/scholarships pay for everything, you generally have time for band and school
when you have to pay for school yourself, you go get a job. It sucks, but its only for 4-5 years, and its worth it.
And it most certainly can be done.
Weed can make what little downtime you have extremely enjoyable, just like going to the gym, cooking a nice meal, smoking a well-earned cigarette, watching an hour of mindless television, etc.
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I find it hard to swallow that you are really a full time engineering student and employee, who somehow manages to find the time togo to thegamespot forums,yet can't find the time to go jog for 20-30 minutes a day. I seem to manage just fine, and I'm a full time engineering student, as well as member of the marching band and pep band, but I still find time to get things done. Eh...I am often an insomniac. I have a full time internship and sometimes I post on gamespot then as well. I do exercise...but I can't do it as a routine. Too robotic for me. I skate and hike when I can.I'm definitely getting off topic, but I definitely find it helps to mix it up when I can. Usually about the same amount of time each day, but I try to get a full range of different exercises into a week. Excluding marching, I usually go with jogging, lifting, swimming, and sometimes rock climbing.[QUOTE="_en1gma_"] It doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities._en1gma_
You want it legal for your own personal reasons and putting aside it's consequences that it might bring to other people. That is unbelievably selfish of you as well. :| And there are a lot of people who have made it without pot. People can make it without pot. Don't give me that bull****. Legalizing marijuana is not going to have an impact on people who don't smoke it. There will obviously be regulations in place. Of course people can make it without marijuana...everyone can. :| What the hell does that have to do with anything?[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"] It doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities._en1gma_
Also, it isn't just personal reasons. Marijuana can help a lot of people (medicinally) and I am a firm supporter of using marijuana to help cancer patients, people with sleep problems, hypertension, etc.
I didn't say it wasn't ok to use it for medical reasons, they are already used that way in some places... but you don't really want it for that reason you're just using that argument for your own convenience. and calm down dude. The reason I even replied to you again is seem to have turned totally against me because of this and I remember we've had good encounters before :?. BTW the reason I said people can make it without it is because you said you're a full time engineering student etc. to justify why you use it. And its impact isn't bull crap only because you haven't experienced it. I'm done here, I'm off to bed keep your anger to yourself.I find it hard to swallow that you are really a full time engineering student and employee, who somehow manages to find the time to go to the gamespot forums,yet can't find the time to go jog for 20-30 minutes a day. I seem to manage just fine, and I'm a full time engineering student, as well as member of the marching band and pep band. I still find time to get things done.[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
[QUOTE="_en1gma_"] It doesn't end at you merely thinking it isn't a "good idea" to smoke pot. You wish to infringe on other's freedoms based on your personal beliefs. That is unbelievably selfish of you...which is why I am getting offended. I have plenty of things to relieve my "stress". And guess what...it is hard for me to find time to relieve my stress because I am a hard working full time engineering student with a full time job and responsibilities.mrbojangles25
when your folks/scholarships pay for everything, you generally have time for band and school
well duh I didn't ace my standardized tests just so I could feel good about it.[QUOTE="_en1gma_"]Don't give me that bull****. Legalizing marijuana is not going to have an impact on people who don't smoke it. There will obviously be regulations in place. Of course people can make it without marijuana...everyone can. :| What the hell does that have to do with anything?[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"] You want it legal for your own personal reasons and putting aside it's consequences that it might bring to other people. That is unbelievably selfish of you as well. :| And there are a lot of people who have made it without pot. People can make it without pot.cyberdarkkid
Also, it isn't just personal reasons. Marijuana can help a lot of people (medicinally) and I am a firm supporter of using marijuana to help cancer patients, people with sleep problems, hypertension, etc.
I didn't say it wasn't ok to use it for medical reasons, they are already used that way in some places... but you don't really want it for that reason you're just using that argument for your own convenience. and calm down dude. The reason I even replied to you again is seem to have turned totally against me because of this and I remember we've had good encounters before :?. BTW the reason I said people can make it without it is because you said you're a full time engineering student etc. to justify why you use it. And its impact isn't bull crap only because you haven't experienced it. I'm done here, I'm off to bed keep your anger to yourself. You keep ignoring what I am saying. I am giving you reasons why I support legalization yet you ignore it and assume that I only support it for my own personal gain.. That's completely false. The main reasons are I believe it infringes on people's freedom and I think it can be a helpful substance for a lot of people...but I have already said this. I honestly wouldn't care if it became legal in the PERSONAL sense that you keep bringing up. Nothing would change for me if it were legal. I am not angry. Bye.[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="Vaasman"]I find it hard to swallow that you are really a full time engineering student and employee, who somehow manages to find the time to go to the gamespot forums,yet can't find the time to go jog for 20-30 minutes a day. I seem to manage just fine, and I'm a full time engineering student, as well as member of the marching band and pep band. I still find time to get things done.
Vaasman
when your folks/scholarships pay for everything, you generally have time for band and school
well duh I didn't ace my standardized tests just so I could feel good about it.sorry, i realize the way I phrased it made it sound like I was trying to make you come off as privelaged or that you should feel guilty. Not my intention.
Im simply saying some people dont have the advantages (a good test score, supportive parents, etc), and they must seek more difficult means of achieving their goals.
If an inexpensive, harmless substance can ease their travels, and its illegal, well thats a damn shame. And its not right for people with a greater advantage to dictatr from their perches up high what others can do.
I didn't say it wasn't ok to use it for medical reasons, they are already used that way in some places... but you don't really want it for that reason you're just using that argument for your own convenience. and calm down dude. The reason I even replied to you again is seem to have turned totally against me because of this and I remember we've had good encounters before :?. BTW the reason I said people can make it without it is because you said you're a full time engineering student etc. to justify why you use it. And its impact isn't bull crap only because you haven't experienced it. I'm done here, I'm off to bed keep your anger to yourself. You keep ignoring what I am saying. I am giving you reasons why I support legalization yet you ignore it and assume that I only support it for my own personal gain.. That's completely false. The main reasons are I believe it infringes on people's freedom and I think it can be a helpful substance for a lot of people...but I have already said this. I honestly wouldn't care if it became legal in the PERSONAL sense that you keep bringing up. Nothing would change for me if it were legal. I am not angry. Bye.[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"][QUOTE="_en1gma_"] Don't give me that bull****. Legalizing marijuana is not going to have an impact on people who don't smoke it. There will obviously be regulations in place. Of course people can make it without marijuana...everyone can. :| What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Also, it isn't just personal reasons. Marijuana can help a lot of people (medicinally) and I am a firm supporter of using marijuana to help cancer patients, people with sleep problems, hypertension, etc.
_en1gma_
to be fair this is not an issue of freedom.
This is about being fair and equal. More importantly, its about being just.
Its really quite simple imo: we live in a world where people can self-medicate themselves, to their own disadvantage, with alcohol and nicotine. And yet people cannot medicate themselves, to their own benefit, with weed.
There is nothing just about someone getting drunk and harming others and getting a slap on the wrist, while someone with two ounces of pot on them gets slapped with intent to sell and sent to jail.
There is nothing fair or equal about that. Its simply wrong
Not sure, I don't know too much about it. I'll need more info about it too make a decision but its falling to still having it illegal.
Not sure, I don't know too much about it. I'll need more info about it too make a decision but its falling to still having it illegal.
Gamerz1569
simply out of curiosity, and not to start an argument: why do you feel this way?
well duh I didn't ace my standardized tests just so I could feel good about it.[QUOTE="Vaasman"]
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
when your folks/scholarships pay for everything, you generally have time for band and school
mrbojangles25
sorry, i realize the way I phrased it made it sound like I was trying to make you come off as privelaged or that you should feel guilty. Not my intention.
Im simply saying some people dont have the advantages (a good test score, supportive parents, etc), and they must seek more difficult means of achieving their goals.
Yes well I know what you mean. I myself am not even close to an avid worker, so I pretty much just winged the act a couple times and got a 34. My roommate freshman year though worked a ton during the summer to pay for college, and he had to actively search for opportunities in extra scholarships, while I get close to a free ride by half-assing everything. So maybe I am privaleged a bit, blessed with the obnoxious ability to bs my way to A's and B's, but I think even people who do have to put more into it can find more appropriate outlets, be it friends, faith, or family. If the absolute only way you can find to calm your nerves is imbibing every now and then, well so be it, but I don't think having a rough schedule is exactly the best excuse (to be perfectly clear this is basically an argument against all casual drug use, I'm not just trying to single out marijuana).[QUOTE="Gamerz1569"]
Not sure, I don't know too much about it. I'll need more info about it too make a decision but its falling to still having it illegal.
mrbojangles25
simply out of curiosity, and not to start an argument: why do you feel this way?
Simply because Marijuana is a drug, like any drug too much of it is dangerous and there might be hidden side effects which we do not know about, remember medicine for colds and how we took it a lot of times when we were kids, guess what? Now its illegal and banned in every pharmacy. While there may be researches and articles saying that marijuana is less addictive than cigars may be right or wrong, I prefer information of such things be done by the DOH for assurance of reliable info which is why I cannot make a decision as I lack info. Not to mention some researches claim that marijuana may be good for medicinal purposes while the source may not be very credible I cannot disregard the fact that marijuana maybe a cure for current/future illnesses another reason why I cannot fully be biased towards illegalizing it but as I said above I am more to having it illegal than legal because of the above reasons.
[QUOTE="mrbojangles25"]
[QUOTE="Gamerz1569"]
Not sure, I don't know too much about it. I'll need more info about it too make a decision but its falling to still having it illegal.
Gamerz1569
simply out of curiosity, and not to start an argument: why do you feel this way?
Simply because Marijuana is a drug, like any drug too much of it is dangerous and there might be hidden side effects which we do not know about, remember medicine for colds and how we took it a lot of times when we were kids, guess what? Now its illegal and banned in every pharmacy. While there may be researches and articles saying that marijuana is less addictive than cigars may be right or wrong, I prefer information of such things be done by the DOH for assurance of reliable info which is why I cannot make a decision as I lack info. Not to mention some researches claim that marijuana may be good for medicinal purposes while the source may not be very credible I cannot disregard the fact that marijuana maybe a cure for current/future illnesses another reason why I cannot fully be biased towards illegalizing it but as I said above I am more to having it illegal than legal because of the above reasons.
The same can be said for smoking and drinking, but they're both legal.
I'm all for the legalization of marijuana. I don't see why a plant like marijuana, which has so many uses is considered illegal when tobacco and alcohol aren't. People can indulge on alcohol and tobacco, yet others who can benefit from marijuana use are labeled criminals if they decide to use it. The marijuana plant has a lot of benefits for people ho have illnesses like multiple sclerosis, glaucoma, cancer(and the effects of chemotherapy), epilepsy, arthritis, depression, and many more. Hemp, which is also illegal because marijuana is illegal can also be used for so many things: biodiesel, cloth(that is more durable and lasts longer than cotton), archive quality paper, etc. You can even cook and eat the seeds.
I will suggest to anyone who wants to know more about marijuana to watch The Union: The Business Behind Getting High. It's probably the most informative and entertaining marijuana documentary I've ever watched.
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