Marriage or not, why do people oppose g@ys anyway?

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#151 alphamale1989
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[QUOTE="alphamale1989"]Most people who oppose homosexuality are just afraid of / repulsed by something that they don't understand. Why do you you oppose marrying a brother or sister - sure it's unhealthy but why is it wrong? You're reaction to the above topic might give you a glimpse at how homophobs feel.shoryuken_

Marrying your brother/sister is wrong because you are blood relatives and it's almost like having sexual relations with your mother or father. Incest also leads to propagation of genetic diseases.

What if you don't have kids and just adopt instead, nothing bad would come out of it - it's just extremely taboo. And as silly as it sounds thats how many homophobes feel about homosexuality.
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#152 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]I'm fairly certain you just like to contradict me..:|smc91352
nah; I like to make corrections and I can be a jerk at times.

Oh come on, I have been so abrasive lately that if you think you appear as a jerk then I am.... I cant even think of a word.

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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"] even I am guilty of going "ewww" when I see two gay guys frenchingTjeremiah1988
The same thing can be said when gay people see two straight people making out, they have every right to show affection to someone they love.

Well, thats a first..

It does happen, you should hear some of the words gay people call straight people. :(
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Oh come on, I have been so abrasive lately that if you think you appear as a jerk then I am.... I cant even think of a word.Teenaged
:oops: Oh you. I don't think you are anywhere near jerk.
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#155 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="MushroomWig"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"] even I am guilty of going "ewww" when I see two gay guys frenchingTjeremiah1988
The same thing can be said when gay people see two straight people making out, they have every right to show affection to someone they love.

Well, thats a first..

You are surrprised by that?

Even many heterosexual people dont like PDA's among heterosexuals; neither witnessing them or doing them.

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#156 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Just because he may disagree with you, doesnt mean that he doesnt like your posts.

Teenaged

I never said he didn't like them...i just said he likes disagreeing/contradicting them..

And what does that say then?

That i disagree/contradict you..:o?

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#157 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

I never said he didn't like them...i just said he likes disagreeing/contradicting them..

Xx_Hopeless_xX

And what does that say then?

That i disagree/contradict you..:o?

......sssssssssso? =/

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#158 Xx_Hopeless_xX
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[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]And what does that say then?

Teenaged

That i disagree/contradict you..:o?

......sssssssssso? =/

So...the world...is actually...not...right..:??

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#159 Mousetaches
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[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"][QUOTE="MushroomWig"] The same thing can be said when gay people see two straight people making out, they have every right to show affection to someone they love.Teenaged

Well, thats a first..

You are surrprised by that?

Even many heterosexual people dont like PDA's among heterosexuals; neither witnessing them or doing them.

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#160 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

That i disagree/contradict you..:o?

Xx_Hopeless_xX

......sssssssssso? =/

So...the world...is actually...not...right..:??

..........huh? :S Like.... what?!?!

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#161 Lopur94
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I'm not homophobic or anything but I can somewhat see why people oppose homosexuals because they think that it's just really weird or really wrong when two guys start making out in public.
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#162 areuodd
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It has no effect on your lives. Why does it matter?

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I'm not homophobic or anything but I can somewhat see why people oppose homosexuals because they think that it's just really weird or really wrong when two guys start making out in public. Lopur94
I've not seen many men making out in public. Straight people seem to be worse at that sort of thing. But I don't find straight people creepy because of it. Grow up.
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#164 psn8214
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I'm not sure why...

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I'm not homophobic or anything but I can somewhat see why people oppose homosexuals because they think that it's just really weird or really wrong when two guys start making out in public. Lopur94

to girls making out on the other hand is considered to be hot according to many men. Double standards, you got to love them :)

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#166 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Lopur94"]I'm not homophobic or anything but I can somewhat see why people oppose homosexuals because they think that it's just really weird or really wrong when two guys start making out in public. TheFlush

to girls making out on the other hand is considered to be hot according to many men. Double standards, you got to love them :)

I don't really like seeing any kind of couples making out. The one I like to see making out more are straight couples, but even then that is still gross to see out in public. :x
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I've got a very large list of reasons to be against it:

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, birth control and air conditioning.

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

4. Marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all: women are property, matches are arranged in childhood, blacks can't marry whites, Catholics can't marry Jews, divorce is illegal, and adultery is punishable by death

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

9. If we look to the word of God, His punishment for sexual immorality is equal to that of murder. Therefore, teaching kids to tolerate homosexuality is equal to teaching them to tolerate murder.

10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy (insurance, government, tourism, banking, retail, education, and social services), suburban malls, or longer life spans.

12. Gay marriage should be decided by people not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities.

13. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "seperate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Seperate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as seperate marriages for gays and lesbians will.

14. There is no separation between religious marriage and legal marriage, because there is no separation of church and state.

15. Devout, faithful Anglicans should never accept same-sex marriage, because it is an affront to the traditional family values upheld by Henry VIII and his wife, Catherine of Aragon, and his wife, Anne Boleyn, and his wife, Jane Seymour, and his wife, Anne of Cleves, and his wife, Catherine Howard, and his wife, Catherine Parr. They all knew the meaning of marriage and none of them lost their heads over the matter.

16. Married gay people will encourage others to be gay in a way that unmarried gay people do not.

17. Legalizing gay marriage will lead to legalizing dog marriage. This can be inferred from the history of other political initiatives for gender equality. For example, when American women got the right to vote in 1920, it led to terriers voting in 1925, and when Title IX was passed in 1972 to prevent sex discrimination in any federally-funded school, resulting in the creation of athletic opportunities for girls, it led to Bichon Frises on the basketball court during the Reagan administration.

18. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to legislative change in general, which could possibly include the legalization of polygamy, incest, medical marijuana, and unmuzzled pit bulls. Because we don't know what might come down the next slippery slope, we should never change any law.

19. Legal marriage will inspire gays to mimic straight traditions, such as spiritual commitment ceremonies and celebratory parties, which is currently impermissible for them to do and which they have never done before.

20. Marriage is designed to protect the well-being of children. Gay people do not need marriage because they never have children from prior relationships, artificial insemination, surrogacy, or adoption.

21. Civil unions are a good option because "separate but equal" institutions are always constitutional. In fact, compared with marriage, civil unions are so attractive that straight people are calling dibs on them.

22. A man should not be able to marry whomever a woman can marry, and a woman should not be able to marry whomever a man can marry, because in this country we do not believe in gender equality.

23. If gays marry, some of straight people's tax dollars would end up supporting families whose structure they may find morally objectionable. Clearly, it is more just to continue taking gay people's tax dollars to support straight families, who are going to heaven regardless of what anyone else thinks of them.

24. Gays should hold off on the marriage question until society is more accepting of them, because they are not part of society.

25. The people's voice must be heard on this issue. Therefore, we must have a vote on a federal constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage, because we can't think of any other way to discuss the issue.

26. Each state should decide for itself whether gay marriage will be recognized, because there is no "full faith and credit" clause that requires states to recognize each other's institutions.

27. Gay marriage attempts to replace natural heterosexual instinct with a cultural institution. Morality demands that we subordinate institutionalized commitment to raw, unfettered, biological impulse.

28. Gay marriages could very well suffer maladies like domestic violence and substance abuse. That's why we invented the Quality Control department to pre-approve the righteousness of all marriage applicants.

29. Those who support gay marriage aim to overthrow the dominant culture, as evidenced by their enthusiasm to participate in it.

30. If the state performs gay marriages, Christians might become more liberal and divide into more mutually opposed parties. Since the government is an arm of the church and is responsible for keeping the peace in Christian leadership councils, it should not get involved with gay marriage.

31. After gay marriage was legalized in Scandinavian countries in 2004, more heterosexual couples realized they wanted to live together and bear children without marrying first. Banning gay marriage is a good way to prevent this practice, as is banning independent thought and mandating straight marriage by age 21.

32. Heterosexual marriage was invented in the Biblical book of Genesis. Written somewhere between 1500 and 500 BCE, Genesis came as a great relief to people in many cultures, such as China, who, prior to 1500 BCE, sat around waiting for the Mesopotamians to invent the family unit.

33. Gay marriage would allow more partners and children to sign onto the family breadwinner's healthcare plan. Given that 44 million Americans do not have health insurance, it is safe to say that health insurance is not an American value.

34. The possibility of getting a gay marriage might encourage some married heterosexuals to divorce and seek a gay union instead. These marriages were obviously happy and successful, and the justices who provide gay second marriages should be charged with alienation of affection.

35. Gay marriage may hurl the populace into existential crisis and cause spontaneous divorces. Divorce triggers our moral hemorrhaging, but we will keep it legal. It is easier to seek the criminalization of gay marriage than the criminalization of divorce, particularly because most of us have had a few divorces.

36. Gay marriage is tainted because some of the applicants might be divorcees marrying for the second time. We oppose remarriage, and would like to ensure that no one marries more than once; therefore we will oppose the entire institution of marriage, to ensure that no one ever marries at all. That casts the net wide enough to catch all the would-be second-timers.

37. The people have the right to demand to vote on a Massachusetts constitutional amendment against gay marriage. There is no reason for proposed amendments to go through the state Legislature first, as is constitutionally required, because the Legislature doesn't spend all that many paid hours sitting around discussing the legal ramifications on behalf of ordinary citizens who are too busy with their own jobs to figure out everything at stake.

38. The arguments for gay marriage are flawed because Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has made inconsistent statements about gay marriage, and he is known for his consistency on other issues.

39. Married gay couples will find it easier to adopt children, who might then be bullied and teased by other children for who their parents are. This reflects poorly on the judgment of gays who adopt children with the risk that their child could possibly be teased. It does not, of course, imply anything about the responsibilities of heterosexual parents, whose children only pick up rocks for geological interest and couldn't have been listening when their parents made those comments about their neighbors.

40. Children of married gay couples might suffer bullying and teasing more often than children of unmarried gay couples, because playground bullies are sensitive to the nuances of contract law.

41. It is reasonable and fair to institute "civil unions" that provide all the rights and responsibilities of marriage, but we cannot apply the holy, mystical word "marriage" to this contract. Deriving from the Latin maritare, "marriage" evokes the dignity of the typical Roman man who engaged in licentious sex with both sexes until he reached middle age, at which time he maritared a teenage girl to bear his children.

42. According to the three proposed "compromise" Massachusetts constitutional amendments defeated by the Legislature on Feb. 11 and 12, 2004, the best way to "protect the unique relationship of [heterosexual] marriage" is to institute civil unions that are in every way identical to it.

43. God created the institution of marriage, just after he created 2.9% APR automobile financing, student loans, HMOs, and divorce.

44. We must defer to the President's opinion on gay marriage, since the Republican party was given its authority by God. As it is written: "Republican and Democrat created He them." Paul elaborated: "Democrats, submit to the Republican."

45. In San Francisco, where renegade officials have married same-sex couples for the past several weeks, experts suggest that the city may suffer an earthquake in about ten years. Geological experts, that is. But good Christians don't recognize the opinion of Earth scientists, who falsely claim the Earth is 4.5 billion years old; they get their seismic information from their preachers, who say the earthquake's coming next week.

46. Allowing same-sex marriage could increase gay public displays of affection, because marriage has historically been proven to stimulate couples' interest in sex.

47. Making civil marriage available to same-sex couples could spur the wedding industry, and businesses would sure hate to pay taxes on all that profit.

48. Straight men are opposed to gay marriage because they would prefer that gay men try to be straight and compete with them for access to women, trimming down the pool of eligible dates to make courtship more challenging and exciting.

49. The country can't afford to provide benefits for any more married couples. That's why President Bush would never consider spending $150 million on programs that encourage more straight people to get married.

50. Gay marriage is wrong because children might be led to think that it is right and that would clearly be wrong.

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The same reason people oppose the mistreatment of animals... they think it's morally wrong.

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:lol: Bravo if you writ that all yourself.. if you copy pasted, props for find :P
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#170 12345678ew
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hmmm, put it this way. society is perfectly ok with women not liking fat or ugly guys, yet if men don't like fruity gay guys that's wrong? the idea of a women thinking in such a way is pleasing to a guy, another guy thinking that way about him frightens him deeply. it does affect us. and as for women, a lot of them might not like it because for some reason girls love gay guys.
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people should be able to live their lives as they want without any nutcases telling them how to live their own lives, or saying they will end up in hell with their religious beliefs
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Ignorance, or because they think their invisible friend told them to.

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Because most people are bigots that have it in their head that homosexuals actually choose to be homosexuals. Yeah, because that makes ****ing sense. :roll:

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frankly i'm so against gay marriage i'll edit your whole post.

I've got a very large list of reasons to be against it:

1. Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, birth control and air conditioning. there's a large difference between not the way it is living outdoors and not the way instinct tells us we should be...

2. Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall. more like gay marriage will encourage people to be gay in the same way that hanging around christians will encourage you to be christian.

3. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract. dog's can't write......

4. Marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all: women are property, matches are arranged in childhood, blacks can't marry whites, Catholics can't marry Jews, divorce is illegal, and adultery is punishable by death that's the typical noble system of marriages, before the dark ages and in other parts of the world it was the same way it is now.

5. Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed. using britany in an argument...

6. Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children. oh no! save the orphans descended of likely not all to bright people if they created an orphan in the first place.

7. Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children. meh, hardly a common argument.

8. Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America. it's not supported by any of our government documents either.

9. If we look to the word of God, His punishment for sexual immorality is equal to that of murder. Therefore, teaching kids to tolerate homosexuality is equal to teaching them to tolerate murder. well it is if we were forced to teach it at theological institutions...

10. Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.
we highly discourage it....
11. Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy (insurance, government, tourism, banking, retail, education, and social services), suburban malls, or longer life spans. difference between material and moral changes....

12. Gay marriage should be decided by people not the courts, because the majority-elected legislatures, not courts, have historically protected the rights of the minorities. valid point.

13. Civil unions, providing most of the same benefits as marriage with a different name are better, because a "seperate but equal" institution is always constitutional. Seperate schools for African-Americans worked just as well as seperate marriages for gays and lesbians will. i think this one is in here twice, but there weren't black words for marriages, and there aren't gay schools. and i'd be fine with everybody in the us not being married but being in a civil union, it just offends me that a word used primarily by a straight institution would be used to describe gay union....

14. There is no separation between religious marriage and legal marriage, because there is no separation of church and state. i don't particularly care about religious marriage...

15. Devout, faithful Anglicans should never accept same-sex marriage, because it is an affront to the traditional family values upheld by Henry VIII and his wife, Catherine of Aragon, and his wife, Anne Boleyn, and his wife, Jane Seymour, and his wife, Anne of Cleves, and his wife, Catherine Howard, and his wife, Catherine Parr. They all knew the meaning of marriage and none of them lost their heads over the matter. lmao's.... unfortunately athiest here.

16. Married gay people will encourage others to be gay in a way that unmarried gay people do not. you don't state that way which leaves my argument far to broad for a quick edit....

17. Legalizing gay marriage will lead to legalizing dog marriage. This can be inferred from the history of other political initiatives for gender equality. For example, when American women got the right to vote in 1920, it led to terriers voting in 1925, and when Title IX was passed in 1972 to prevent sex discrimination in any federally-funded school, resulting in the creation of athletic opportunities for girls, it led to Bichon Frises on the basketball court during the Reagan administration. lmao.... again with the nobody uses this point.

18. Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to legislative change in general, which could possibly include the legalization of polygamy, incest, medical marijuana, and unmuzzled pit bulls. Because we don't know what might come down the next slippery slope, we should never change any law. lol, nobody ever used that argument... well maybe in the 50's....

19. Legal marriage will inspire gays to mimic straight traditions, such as spiritual commitment ceremonies and celebratory parties, which is currently impermissible for them to do and which they have never done before. because people totally argue this point...

20. Marriage is designed to protect the well-being of children. Gay people do not need marriage because they never have children from prior relationships, artificial insemination, surrogacy, or adoption. they rarely have it, and most of what you mentioned doesn't apply to gay guys, whom i'm primarily against....

21. Civil unions are a good option because "separate but equal" institutions are always constitutional. In fact, compared with marriage, civil unions are so attractive that straight people are calling dibs on them. marriage effectively is civil union, what's your point? so you continually mock christianity yet want to be married, a term mainly related to the "eyes of god" instead of a legal institution granting you the exact same rights? makes sense... not.

22. A man should not be able to marry whomever a woman can marry, and a woman should not be able to marry whomever a man can marry, because in this country we do not believe in gender equality. frankly i'm somewhat against feminism as well since they aren't actually working towards equality they are working towards female superiority (ever so kindly eliminating all the things we had they didn't yet keeping "ladies first" and all the other kind things society suggests we do for them)

23. If gays marry, some of straight people's tax dollars would end up supporting families whose structure they may find morally objectionable. Clearly, it is more just to continue taking gay people's tax dollars to support straight families, who are going to heaven regardless of what anyone else thinks of them. yes, because gay's are paying so many taxes when being unmarried they likely aren't homeowners.....and not being married their household income isn't over 200k putting them in the poor section of obama's tax set-up, giving them hundreds of benefits. meanwhile because i did good in life and make lots of money i have to pay for those that smoked pot through highschool....

24. Gays should hold off on the marriage question until society is more accepting of them, because they are not part of society. intelligent people against gays tend to use the term general public instead of society.....

25. The people's voice must be heard on this issue. Therefore, we must have a vote on a federal constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage, because we can't think of any other way to discuss the issue. this is an argument for how healthy our legislative system is, not the morality of gay marriage.

26. Each state should decide for itself whether gay marriage will be recognized, because there is no "full faith and credit" clause that requires states to recognize each other's institutions. by your logic the full fauth and credit law states that everybody must allow smoking in public since not everybody's banned it yet....

27. Gay marriage attempts to replace natural heterosexual instinct with a cultural institution. Morality demands that we subordinate institutionalized commitment to raw, unfettered, biological impulse. humans naturally chose a single mate for life.... it's why our numbers are so low compared to other species.

28. Gay marriages could very well suffer maladies like domestic violence and substance abuse. That's why we invented the Quality Control department to pre-approve the righteousness of all marriage applicants. because domestic violence and substance abuse are all or nothing chances..... gay marriages can't have higher chances.....

29. Those who support gay marriage aim to overthrow the dominant culture, as evidenced by their enthusiasm to participate in it. if your talking mainstream music i would happily see you overthrow that... no replacing it with single ladies though.

30. If the state performs gay marriages, Christians might become more liberal and divide into more mutually opposed parties. Since the government is an arm of the church and is responsible for keeping the peace in Christian leadership councils, it should not get involved with gay marriage. it's charged with keeping the peace everywhere....

31. After gay marriage was legalized in Scandinavian countries in 2004, more heterosexual couples realized they wanted to live together and bear children without marrying first. Banning gay marriage is a good way to prevent this practice, as is banning independent thought and mandating straight marriage by age mute point

21. wait what put this here.....?

32. Heterosexual marriage was invented in the Biblical book of Genesis. Written somewhere between 1500 and 500 BCE, Genesis came as a great relief to people in many cultures, such as China, who, prior to 1500 BCE, sat around waiting for the Mesopotamians to invent the family unit. lol. not sure where the argument is but it gave me a funny mental image.... bunch of cavepeople sitting in a circle wondering who takes care of the kid....

33. Gay marriage would allow more partners and children to sign onto the family breadwinner's healthcare plan. Given that 44 million Americans do not have health insurance, it is safe to say that health insurance is not an American value. valid point.... 2 out of 30 so far...

34. The possibility of getting a gay marriage might encourage some married heterosexuals to divorce and seek a gay union instead. These marriages were obviously happy and successful, and the justices who provide gay second marriages should be charged with alienation of affection. generalization...

35. Gay marriage may hurl the populace into existential crisis and cause spontaneous divorces. Divorce triggers our moral hemorrhaging, but we will keep it legal. It is easier to seek the criminalization of gay marriage than the criminalization of divorce, particularly because most of us have had a few divorces. generalization of all people opposed to gay marriage being overly righteous christian crusaders...

36. Gay marriage is tainted because some of the applicants might be divorcees marrying for the second time. We oppose remarriage, and would like to ensure that no one marries more than once; therefore we will oppose the entire institution of marriage, to ensure that no one ever marries at all. That casts the net wide enough to catch all the would-be second-timers. i'm sure somebody has used this argument before, but generalizations?

37. The people have the right to demand to vote on a Massachusetts constitutional amendment against gay marriage. There is no reason for proposed amendments to go through the state Legislature first, as is constitutionally required, because the Legislature doesn't spend all that many paid hours sitting around discussing the legal ramifications on behalf of ordinary citizens who are too busy with their own jobs to figure out everything at stake.
wait, what? your defending an amendment against gay marriage? i would strongly support that....
38. The arguments for gay marriage are flawed because Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry has made inconsistent statements about gay marriage, and he is known for his consistency on other issues. wait what?

39. Married gay couples will find it easier to adopt children, who might then be bullied and teased by other children for who their parents are. This reflects poorly on the judgment of gays who adopt children with the risk that their child could possibly be teased. It does not, of course, imply anything about the responsibilities of heterosexual parents, whose children only pick up rocks for geological interest and couldn't have been listening when their parents made those comments about their neighbors. so it's the straight people's fault that a child's instinct tells him he's supposed to like girls not boys?

40. Children of married gay couples might suffer bullying and teasing more often than children of unmarried gay couples, because playground bullies are sensitive to the nuances of contract law. the children wouldn't be in the care of gays if gays can't be married, as they are rarely allowed to adopt outside wedlock.

41. It is reasonable and fair to institute "civil unions" that provide all the rights and responsibilities of marriage, but we cannot apply the holy, mystical word "marriage" to this contract. Deriving from the Latin maritare, "marriage" evokes the dignity of the typical Roman man who engaged in licentious sex with both sexes until he reached middle age, at which time he maritared a teenage girl to bear his children. rome was also strongly opposed to christianity, so mute point, and athiest here...

42. According to the three proposed "compromise" Massachusetts constitutional amendments defeated by the Legislature on Feb. 11 and 12, 2004, the best way to "protect the unique relationship of [heterosexual] marriage" is to institute civil unions that are in every way identical to it.

43. God created the institution of marriage, just after he created 2.9% APR automobile financing, student loans, HMOs, and divorce.
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44. We must defer to the President's opinion on gay marriage, since the Republican party was given its authority by God. As it is written: "Republican and Democrat created He them." Paul elaborated: "Democrats, submit to the Republican." i'm athiest and still against gays.

45. In San Francisco, where renegade officials have married same-sex couples for the past several weeks, experts suggest that the city may suffer an earthquake in about ten years. Geological experts, that is. But good Christians don't recognize the opinion of Earth scientists, who falsely claim the Earth is 4.5 billion years old; they get their seismic information from their preachers, who say the earthquake's coming next week. wait, how is this an argument?

46. Allowing same-sex marriage could increase gay public displays of affection, because marriage has historically been proven to stimulate couples' interest in sex. it has been proven to stimulate couples' feeling of safety in displaying said interests however.

47. Making civil marriage available to same-sex couples could spur the wedding industry, and businesses would sure hate to pay taxes on all that profit.
weddings hardly make any money, what is your point?
48. Straight men are opposed to gay marriage because they would prefer that gay men try to be straight and compete with them for access to women, trimming down the pool of eligible dates to make courtship more challenging and exciting. no, we would like them to be straight so gym lockerrooms don't force the straight guys to hide in corners....

49. The country can't afford to provide benefits for any more married couples. That's why President Bush would never consider spending $150 million on programs that encourage more straight people to get married. nobody has ever used this point

50. Gay marriage is wrong because children might be led to think that it is right and that would clearly be wrong. well in my oppinion it is somewhat wrong, so valid.

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Hate is the root of all evil.
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Someone beat you to it.. :P

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Well it goes against this structure. The people who own this country do not like that.
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#178 Teenaged
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Well it goes against this structure. The people who own this country do not like that. Diablo112688
What structure?

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#179 Diablo112688
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[QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Well it goes against this structure. The people who own this country do not like that. Teenaged

What structure?

The structure we live under... what is seen as acceptable and not... what is alright and what isn't...
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#180 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Diablo112688"]Well it goes against this structure. The people who own this country do not like that. Diablo112688

What structure?

The structure we live under... what is seen as acceptable and not... what is alright and what isn't...

What structure do we live under? You mean social structure?

Some years ago interracial marriage was not seen as acceptable so in conclusion humanity has been proven wrong about what it considers acceptable or not acceptable, right or wrong.

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#181 SolidSnake35
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It's nothing worth getting worked up about... but I'm still not convinced it's normal; that people don't choose to be gay only supports this. If it could be said that being gay was a rational choice then I'd feel more inclined to accept it as normal.
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#182 chessmaster1989
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I've got a very large list of reasons to be against it:

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At first I was :| and then I :lol:

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#183 Diablo112688
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[QUOTE="Diablo112688"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]What structure?

Teenaged

The structure we live under... what is seen as acceptable and not... what is alright and what isn't...

What structure do we live under? You mean social structure?

Some years ago interracial marriage was not seen as acceptable so in conclusion humanity has been proven wrong about what it considers acceptable or not acceptable, right or wrong.

Whatever the people who run things decide at any given moment is what we live under...
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#184 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Diablo112688"] The structure we live under... what is seen as acceptable and not... what is alright and what isn't... Diablo112688

What structure do we live under? You mean social structure?

Some years ago interracial marriage was not seen as acceptable so in conclusion humanity has been proven wrong about what it considers acceptable or not acceptable, right or wrong.

Whatever the people who run things decide at any given moment is what we live under...

That says absolutely nothing about whether or not people should pursue to change things they find unfair.

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It's nothing worth getting worked up about... but I'm still not convinced it's normal; that people don't choose to be gay only supports this. If it could be said that being gay was a rational choice then I'd feel more inclined to accept it as normal.SolidSnake35

You do know that heterosexuals don't choose to be heterosexuals, right?

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#186 Teenaged
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It's nothing worth getting worked up about... but I'm still not convinced it's normal; that people don't choose to be gay only supports this. If it could be said that being gay was a rational choice then I'd feel more inclined to accept it as normal.SolidSnake35
So, how exactly do you conclude that since its not a choice, its not normal?

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#187 SolidSnake35
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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's nothing worth getting worked up about... but I'm still not convinced it's normal; that people don't choose to be gay only supports this. If it could be said that being gay was a rational choice then I'd feel more inclined to accept it as normal.Dark_Knight6

You do know that heterosexuals don't choose to be heterosexuals, right?

Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification.
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#188 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]It's nothing worth getting worked up about... but I'm still not convinced it's normal; that people don't choose to be gay only supports this. If it could be said that being gay was a rational choice then I'd feel more inclined to accept it as normal.SolidSnake35

You do know that heterosexuals don't choose to be heterosexuals, right?

Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification.

Anatomical way?

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Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification. SolidSnake35

And? A man and man also "fit together".

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Extremely well written post TC. That's pretty much all I can say.

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[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification. Dark_Knight6

And? A man and man also "fit together".

Anatomical way?Teenaged
Yup.
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"Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification."

That would be a good arguement if we were still reliant on reproducing to continue our species. We are in no dire need of reproducing right now

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#193 Teenaged
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Yup.SolidSnake35
Well I see your " penis fits in a vagina " argument and I raise you the "explain why the hell men have a prostate and why does it get stimulated by anal penetration?".

[spoiler] I hope I dont get modded for this [/spoiler]

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"Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification."

That would be a good arguement if we were still reliant on reproducing to continue our species. We are in no dire need of reproducing right now

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But if our numbers dropped, it would become abnormal again? I don't think you'd want to accept that so I see no point there.
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#196 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="warriordoc"]

"Mmhmm and I also know that a man and a woman fit together in a certain kind of way that doesn't require justification."

That would be a good arguement if we were still reliant on reproducing to continue our species. We are in no dire need of reproducing right now

SolidSnake35

But if our numbers dropped, it would become abnormal again? I don't think you'd want to accept that so I see no point there.

Seeing how the fear of us getting extinct (otherwise our numbers falling only to rise again means nothing) has substance if everyone turned gay you pretty much have no case.

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But if our numbers dropped, it would become abnormal again? I don't think you'd want to accept that so I see no point there.SolidSnake35

You do realise that homosexuals aren't sterile, right? If it came down to the survival of the human species, I'd have sex with a woman.

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#198 warriordoc
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Well obviously if our species was dying off and we needed to reproduce I might see it as a bit abnormal...

But I'm all for it, I go by the saying "What you do is who you choose to be, and if it causes me no harm, then you're all right with me."

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#200 Teenaged
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Well obviously if our species was dying off and we needed to reproduce I might see it as a bit abnormal...

But I'm all for it, I go by the saying "What you do is who you choose to be, and if it causes me no harm, then you're all right with me."

warriordoc

We could always just produce children without any sexual contact. Its happening even now. Nothing too strange here.