[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] wanna know the difference? in Iran there are military parades with missles that have "Death To Israel" all over them, sometimes its "death to the US" as well on the other hand , that simply doesn't happen in Israel , simply because there would be someone inside the country that would say its racist to do so. besides the nuclear aspect in Israel is a remenant of a time where the majority of Arab states were openly calling for my death , Nasser wasn't exactly running towards Israel with open arms.Darkman2007
Two things before we start:1- I do not exempt Iran from anything.
2- Being a person in Saudi Arabia, I know just how much the Western media exaggerates about us.
The nuclear program is not a remnant of the past, considering Israel is well estimated at 300 head from 10–20 in 1976. Israel is still maintaining the program, and as I understand, with the Arab Spring and the 'regretful' border shooting between Israel and Egypt, Israel will not be wanting to dismantle it anytime soon I'm sure. That said, almost nobody wants to "push Jews into the sea". The Iranian government host a marginal self-governed Persian Jewish minority of their own, with a voice of their own in the Majlis, and I have heard nothing about a genocide or mass murder.
@LJ: Again, not stopping your give and get bargain. I just hope you will have one for Israel as one.
Israel will have a nuclear program until there is peace, and I mean proper peace, we both know that at the end of the day, the peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan are just pieces of paper, things could change overnight, besides with Iran's links to Hezbollah and Hamas, I can't allow them to have nuclear weapon (especially considering you can now put nuclear weapons into a relatively small size). as for Persian Jews, its not quite as rosy as youre saying. yes, there are 20, 0000 Jews in Iran , but thats down from 100,000 30 years ago , most of the Jews escaped exactly because of fear from the regime. moreoever, Jews have a lack of rights, Jews are not allowed to attain high positions in the army, or in government, heck until not too long ago , Jews weren't really allowed to have passports , and were basically subject to various degrading laws, such as a inheritence law (ie , if a Jew converts to Islam , he inherits all the property) thats in addition to the obvious lack of rights every other Iranian has. at the same time, Ive seen more than enough riots and protests in the Arab World to believe that there are indeed people who want that. heck , Ive seen the protests next to the Israeli Embassy in Cairo , they weren't shouting about Israel , they were shouting "Itbach Al Yahud". are they a minority? I don't know, but Im not quite sure its nobody that wants my death , those people exist, wheter a minority or not.Ughh, I'm pressed for time, and I probably won't enjoy this one, Jews are really stern by nature, it almost makes me think every Jew I communicate with is sponsored by the JIDF (j/k). Call this your win. :P
I would like a source (video source if possible) of those guys, probably some Salafists thinking they're doing God's work if not a common youth. Much like the Tea Party slogans, only, you know, Middle Eastern style.
Again, I do not exempt Iran from anything, but you are obviously misinformed, I've seen enough news to believe Iranian Jews are much like other Jews that oppose Israel, and are treated well enough to reject moving to Israel. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/jul/12/israel.iran
The nucelar program can stay, but you're ought to be condemned enough to sign the NPT just like Iran and the rest of the ME.
Best chance for peace is to weed out your hectic right, cooperate with the PLO, and leave "hidden desires" behind, both of us. Hezbollah is meh, Hamas, probably.
Adius, I am quite interested at having a conversation with you though, maybe at a later time.
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