Mass walkout at UN as Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad raises 9/11 'mystery'

Does anyone remember Gaddafi's speech to the U.N. in 2009?

jetpower3

Does anyone remember Gaddafi's speech to the U.N. in 2009?

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="jetpower3"]

Does anyone remember Gaddafi's speech to the U.N. in 2009?

sonicare

I mean I'm sorry, but I think Mahmoud can differentiate between a female and a male.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Don't even begin to compare the two. :|Victorious_Fize

I mean I'm sorry, but I think Mahmoud can differentiate between a female and a male.

Wait what? How is Iran's leader better then Gaddafi, in this very speech he claimed that his country was a foundation of individual liberty and freedom..

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] Why not? That one was equally as wacky. I think he wanted NATO to attack France because they had offended his son.sSubZerOo

I mean I'm sorry, but I think Mahmoud can differentiate between a female and a male.

Wait what? How is Iran's leader better then Gaddafi, in this very speech he claimed that his country was a foundation of individual liberty and freedom..

Sagem28

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] One does it for a reason. The other is just a cracker without the need for the crack. I'd say it is pretty insulting for any leader to be compared to Gaddafi, no matter how bad and crazy his agenda is.

I mean I'm sorry, but I think Mahmoud can differentiate between a female and a male.

Victorious_Fize

Wait what? How is Iran's leader better then Gaddafi, in this very speech he claimed that his country was a foundation of individual liberty and freedom..

What a great rebuttal :|you link us a video that is not dubbed nor has subtitles in a language that the majority of people here do not understand.. Gaddafi and the Iranian leadership have both said ridiculous things.. Does it really matter who is worse?

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Wait what? How is Iran's leader better then Gaddafi, in this very speech he claimed that his country was a foundation of individual liberty and freedom..

sSubZerOo

What a great rebuttal :|you link us a video that is not dubbed nor has subtitles in a language that the majority of people here do not understand.. Gaddafi and the Iranian leadership have both said ridiculous things.. Does it really matter who is worse?

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

Wait what? How is Iran's leader better then Gaddafi, in this very speech he claimed that his country was a foundation of individual liberty and freedom..

sSubZerOo

What a great rebuttal :|you link us a video that is not dubbed nor has subtitles in a language that the majority of people here do not understand.. Gaddafi and the Iranian leadership have both said ridiculous things.. Does it really matter who is worse?

Which is worse???

I'd rather speak about which is better! :x

Either is preferable to that gutless AIPAC puppet, Barack Obama!

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Jesus Christ, people in the West really have no clue about Gaddafi. To you guys, he's just one of those militant dictators that run a third world country after all. No one is comparable to Gaddafi, no one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esa1ieS2Lyo Victorious_Fize

What a great rebuttal :|you link us a video that is not dubbed nor has subtitles in a language that the majority of people here do not understand.. Gaddafi and the Iranian leadership have both said ridiculous things.. Does it really matter who is worse?

Seriously, you think that multiple global news agencies would grossly misrpreresent what an official is saying? Do you have any idea of the number of people that would be crying out "this was not translated properly"? You seem to be unusually invested in this subject, particularly in the emotional sense. Both men are ruthless dictators who have an inflated sense of importance and have a degree of delusion and disconnect with reality that it's almost as hilarious as it is horrifying. Gaddafi and Ahmadinejad are quite comparable, no matter how much you yell at users to not do so on an online forum.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Jesus Christ, people in the West really have no clue about Gaddafi. To you guys, he's just one of those militant dictators that run a third world country after all. No one is comparable to Gaddafi, no one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esa1ieS2Lyo Victorious_Fize

What a great rebuttal :|you link us a video that is not dubbed nor has subtitles in a language that the majority of people here do not understand.. Gaddafi and the Iranian leadership have both said ridiculous things.. Does it really matter who is worse?

Do you understand both persian and arabic? /butting in

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

What a great rebuttal :|you link us a video that is not dubbed nor has subtitles in a language that the majority of people here do not understand.. Gaddafi and the Iranian leadership have both said ridiculous things.. Does it really matter who is worse?

grape_of_wrath

Do you understand both persian and arabic? /butting in

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I can not explain to you without screaming at the screen... it's just... no, it doesn't matter, both are bad and lets leave it at that. Also, if you don't understand neither Arabic or Persian, then how can you truly compare Gaddafi and Mahmoud first-hand? You just rely on your local media to translate and bring what they want. Which, putting the agenda aside, will certainly undermine true assessment of how differently terrible both are. Demokarasi...Victorious_Fize

Do you understand both persian and arabic? /butting in

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

Do you understand both persian and arabic? /butting in

LJS9502_basic

Peace? :?Victorious_Fize

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Peace? :?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Peace? :?Victorious_Fize

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You just told an Israeli you know why other Easterners hate him did you not?

DarthJohnova

Yes, it does. But changing what you said and acknowledging it makes all the difference.

Yes, it does. But changing what you said and acknowledging it makes all the difference.Victorious_Fize

All of what he said is true and a fact. World leaders also shouldn't walk out during his speech, that's just rude and disrespectful.

gameking5000

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Yes, it does. But changing what you said and acknowledging it makes all the difference.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="gameking5000"]

All of what he said is true and a fact. World leaders also shouldn't walk out during his speech, that's just rude and disrespectful.

musicalmac

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"] exactly what musicalmac said. Anyone who follows international politics can see political posturing among nations. Read between the lines (and i don't mean outlandish conspiracy theories either). LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"] exactly what musicalmac said. Anyone who follows international politics can see political posturing among nations. Read between the lines (and i don't mean outlandish conspiracy theories either). LJS9502_basic

Sometimes outlandish conspiracy theories are believed because they're true.

:|

Edit: the_plan_man beat me to it. :x

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="gameking5000"]

All of what he said is true and a fact. World leaders also shouldn't walk out during his speech, that's just rude and disrespectful.

SaudiFury

Not much to read from in between those lines. Seems rather obvious a statement.

... unless of course those US diplomats and Mahmoud are sharing beer and babes after the show, then I'd have to admit I totally missed that possibility from between the lines of the walkout.

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="musicalmac"] This is par for the course. It's just political posturing. Have you not heard of this before?m0zart

Not much to read from in between those lines. Seems rather obvious a statement.

... unless of course those US diplomats and Mahmoud are sharing beer and babes after the show, then I'd have to admit I totally missed that possibility from between the lines of the walkout.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I can not explain to you without screaming at the screen... it's just... no, it doesn't matter, both are bad and lets leave it at that. Also, if you don't understand neither Arabic or Persian, then how can you truly compare Gaddafi and Mahmoud first-hand? You just rely on your local media to translate and bring what they want. Which, putting the agenda aside, will certainly undermine true assessment of how differently terrible both are. Demokarasi...Victorious_Fize

Do you understand both persian and arabic? /butting in

I can not explain to you without screaming at the screen... Victorious_Fize

I've had similar experiences with subzero. :3

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"] You made the "lost in translation" point the crux of your argument. From my experience, people who speak both farsi and arabic are really very rare. Since speaking "basics" in persian is very vague, I'll go on a limb and say that you rely on a translation of ahmedinijahd, as well- robbing your entire argument of any content.

grape_of_wrath

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I can not explain to you without screaming at the screen... grape_of_wrath

I've had similar experiences with subzero. :3

I never proclaimed I was any better. But I do understand what he's saying without the need to listen to him, the sentiments that is. I'm not the one that is surprised by Mahmoud's actions either. Basics means random vocabulary and united script + similar words. I actually plan on learning it since all I need is grammar and vocabulary.

Victorious_Fize

By that criteria, I speak basic arabic. I definitely need a translation when listening to gaddafi. Your argument was that gaddafi was much worse than ahmedinijahd, relying the point on your better understanding of the native languages. That argument fell.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] I can not explain to you without screaming at the screen... Victorious_Fize

I've had similar experiences with subzero. :3

And the constant ':|'s and the finishing of all sentences with the self made punctuation mark ".." had nothing to do with it? :3

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

By that criteria, I speak basic arabic. I definitely need a translation when listening to gaddafi. Your argument was that gaddafi was much worse than ahmedinijahd, relying the point on your better understanding of the native languages. That argument fell.

No not really, I back my understanding of Iran with my Islamic Arabic Middle Eastern background. The language was just brought up because subzero is alien to Eastern mentality (obviously, ones Islamic in nature), so I told him he can not understand without a direct translation, from the mouth. The media there has one, and one status quo for Eastern Muslims. That's why, when you compare Ghaddafi to Mahmoud, you do need to learn the languages, or Arabic at least, since maybe seeing Ghaddafi alone will make you think back on that.

[QUOTE="grape_of_wrath"]

I've had similar experiences with subzero. :3

grape_of_wrath

And the constant ':|'s and the finishing of all sentences with the self made punctuation mark ".." had nothing to do with it? :3

lol I get that, but not really. I like his argumentation.

^But you don't understand farsi -you can not understand without a direct translation, from the mouth. That's why, when you compare Ghaddafi to Mahmoud, you do need to learn the languages, or farsi at least, since maybe seeing mahmoud alone will make you think back on that.grape_of_wrath

I wasn't really factual, I was just using value of judgment. So this changes nothing?

K.

So were everybody else.

So this changes nothing?

Victorious_Fize

It's OT. It's all masturbation as far as i'm concerned.

K.

So were everybody else.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

So this changes nothing?

grape_of_wrath

It's OT. It's all masturbation as far as i'm concerned.

Alhamdulillah.

[QUOTE="gameking5000"]

All of what he said is true and a fact. World leaders also shouldn't walk out during his speech, that's just rude and disrespectful.

musicalmac

Exactly sabre rattling.. Thats basically what the Iranian and North Korean leadership have been doing for decades.. North Korea's leader has become a pro in acting crazy simply for countries to give them money to shut up and other such things.