Metal is dying, metal needs help.

About 40 years ago an English band called Black Sabbath created a new genre of music. This genre is called Heavy Metal. This genre was so new, so original that Black Sabbath built up a massive fan base. Most of which were teenagers at the time. Their parents listened to Jazz and Funk or whatever. It was too heavy for them. Heavy metal over it's 40 years of existence has branched out into many sub genres. Thrash Metal, Punk, Grunge, Progressive Metaland many more different sub genres.

But Metal is falling. After 40 years it has become nothing but distortion and screaming about death, sex and anti-religion. This is pathetic. And so metal is decaying and falling to pop music. Which is even more pathetic. And with the recent death of Ronnie James Dio, A heavy metal LEGEND it's not going to get any better. Unless the next generation of heavy metal musicians have something NEW! to offer the genre it's going to become a thing of the past.

The metal we hear today has no distinct qualities. It's just this band trying to be as good as all the other bands, and so they end up sounding almost the same. There's no creativity involved. This saddens me to see metal die. I want to be able to enjoy newer music. But I can't unless new bands actually offer something original.

What current Metal bands do you hear?

what the hell crappy metal are you listening to then?

I don't know what their called. I just hear a friend of mine play this crap music from his phone. Screaming and Distortion.

I don't know what their called. I just hear a friend of mine play this crap music from his phone. Screaming and Distortion.

DmadFearmonger

So, 1 song or 1 band define the entire genre???

About 40 years ago an English band called Black Sabbath created a new genre of music. This genre is called Heavy Metal. This genre was so new, so original that Black Sabbath built up a massive fan base. Most of which were teenagers at the time. Their parents listened to Jazz and Funk or whatever. It was too heavy for them. Heavy metal over it's 40 years of existence has branched out into many sub genres. Thrash Metal, Punk, Grunge, Progressive Metaland many more different sub genres.

But Metal is falling. After 40 years it has become nothing but distortion and screaming about death, sex and anti-religion. This is pathetic. And so metal is decaying and falling to pop music. Which is even more pathetic. And with the recent death of Ronnie James Dio, A heavy metal LEGEND it's not going to get any better. Unless the next generation of heavy metal musicians have something NEW! to offer the genre it's going to become a thing of the past.

The metal we hear today has no distinct qualities. It's just this band trying to be as good as all the other bands, and so they end up sounding almost the same. There's no creativity involved. This saddens me to see metal die. I want to be able to enjoy newer music. But I can't unless new bands actually offer something original.

DmadFearmonger

Eh I thought Blue Cheer "created" metal. Oh well they sure inspired it no doubt.

I agree. Bands like Sabbath, Saxon, Iron Maiden, Dio, Metallica, Judas Priest and so on so forth, are the legends of metal. Nowadays it's horrid vocals, and most songs sound the same (Yes even some Metallica songs follow a similar structure)

Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold shed some light in the genre. Hell they're not bad at all but don't compare to past bands.

Yeah that's true. I actually like disturbed. Their the kind of band that'll hopefully save the genre.

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Eh I thought Blue Cheer "created" metal. Oh well they sure inspired it no doubt.

I agree. Bands like Sabbath, Saxon, Iron Maiden, Dio, Metallica, Judas Priest and so on so forth, are the legends of metal. Nowadays it's horrid vocals, and most songs sound the same (Yes even some Metallica songs follow a similar structure)

Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold shed some light in the genre. Hell they're not bad at all but don't compare to past bands.

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sAndroid17

Eh I thought Blue Cheer "created" metal. Oh well they sure inspired it no doubt.

I agree. Bands like Sabbath, Saxon, Iron Maiden, Dio, Metallica, Judas Priest and so on so forth, are the legends of metal. Nowadays it's horrid vocals, and most songs sound the same (Yes even some Metallica songs follow a similar structure)

Disturbed and Avenged Sevenfold shed some light in the genre. Hell they're not bad at all but don't compare to past bands.

Ha ok. But imo they're the only decent metal bands today and like I said they don't compare to past metal bands.

Please, tell me where is the screaming and the distortion and all that things you say in this song:

Heavenly

Yeah that's true. I actually like disturbed. Their the kind of band that'll hopefully save the genre.

DmadFearmonger

Blind Guardian would like a word with you.:P But seriously metal isn't dying.

Please, tell me where is the screaming and the distortion and all that things you say in this song:

Heavenly

Metal died in the mid-90s.

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Please, tell me where is the screaming and the distortion and all that things you say in this song:

Heavenly

sAndroid17

Didn't know either, i found this a couple of weeks ago, good stuff as always :)

You don't know many metal bands, do you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddl0PO3L6K4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVVZ6u0Pu_k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-ngKJRGR78

Metal is doing just great.

Metal died in the mid-90s.

Choga

Metal is like gaming PC, it's been dying since forever.

I used to be the same way till i found this blog, after that my opinion changed

It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

Meh. I'd rather save other genres if metal was truly dieing.

If it isn't dying then it's turning to $h!t and everyone'll get sick of it and not want to listen to it anymore and then it'll be dying.

DmadFearmonger

It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

Communistik

Except that Prog. metal is terrible.

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Yeah that's true. I actually like disturbed. Their the kind of band that'll hopefully save the genre.

Saturos3091

Truth, this is it. She has a Doom patch got dangit. (although they are crust, still)

And metal is not dying, don't be silly.

You know what, I like you. You know exactly what I mean.

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It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

Except that Prog. metal is terrible.

Oh that's where you're wrong. Progressive Metal is an art form.

It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

Communistik

Progressive Metal is pretty good, however, is not as original as you claim.

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It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

AtlasBizarre

Except that Prog. metal is terrible.

Well. You've persuaded me with that brilliant critique. You must be right.

Every album Dream Theater releases sounds different from the last. I think it is as original as he claims

You can't kill the metal!

Every album Dream Theater releases sounds different from the last. I think it is as original as he claims

DmadFearmonger

Progressive Metal as great as it is, still follow a defined structure, if you really want to push your horizons try Avant Garde Metal, that's where the sick stuffs are.

You don't know **** man, for one, punk is definitelyNOTa branch off heavy metal, it came from other roots such as rock'n'roll and bands like The Stooges.

Also you obviously havent heard much modern metal, there are TONS of good bands emerging its just they're mostly all underground now that stuff like metalcore and generic death metal have taken over the scene, in fact theres a whole movement in the last few years which has resurrected thrash metal called the new wave of thrash metal, also there are still other quality heavy metal acts emerging who have that old 70/80's sound with a modern tinge, metal may be going through a weak phase at the moment but in a few years maybe more of the good bands will go mainstream, you just need to search harder and you will find that there are tons of great bands out there. You cant just judge a scene by its mainstream, the mainstream and underground are basically different scenes in metal and basically every other genre.

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It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

madsnakehhh

Progressive Metal is pretty good, however, is not as original as you claim.

Real progressive rock/metal is indeed original. It takes on a metal sound, but it doesn't take from metal so much as it takes from jazz with respect to rhythmic properties, composition, and song structure. It is the most sophisticated of the metal genres, which is why you are substantially more likely to find formally trained musicians playing in progressive metal bands. It has the aggression of metal with the textural depth and theoretical substance of jazz and classical music.

It's the best.

I like the sound of this. That'll be brilliant when it happens

It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

Communistik

Metal is better now than it has ever been. There tens of thousands of metal bands out there that don't fit your description.

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It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

sAndroid17

Except that Prog. metal is terrible.

Most of the prog. metal bands I know have awful vocals + boring music.

Prog. rock>Prog. metal.

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree.

Pull me Under. You tell me that isn't a masterpiece. James Lebrie has the voice of an angel and the music consists of some of the most talented musicians on the planet.

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Every album Dream Theater releases sounds different from the last. I think it is as original as he claims

madsnakehhh

Progressive Metal as great as it is, still follow a defined structure, if you really want to push your horizons try Avant Garde Metal, that's where the sick stuffs are.

All music has a defined structure, including avant garde metal. If you listen to a song, you can always pick out a structure, even if it never repeats itself. Progressive metal redefines contemporary notions of structure; it expresses itself differently from any genre of music, yet remains tastefully contained at the same time.

Avant garde metal is merely progressive metal without any direction, substance, musical purpose. It is not pushing any boundaries. It consists of undisciplined musicianship that attempts to be extreme just for the sake of seeming extreme. There is nothing "sick" about it.

[QUOTE="Communistik"]

It has been obvious for about ten years now that progressive metal is the only metal sub-genre taking strides and doing new things.

Death, thrash, doom, blah blah bull****...it's all the same, and it all sucks. Progressive metal is where it's at now, and educated musicians recognize that.

Saturos3091

I'm agree.

However, despite what any of us claim about Progressive or any other genre, it's nice to prove TC that Metal is nowhere near dying, we came from traditional bands like Disturbed, going with Black Pyramid, then Heavenly, Dream Theater and now Avant Garde...yep, Metal is dying.

Pull me Under. You tell me that isn't a masterpiece. James Lebrie has the voice of an angel and the music consists of some of the most talented musicians on the planet.

DmadFearmonger

It isn't a masterpiece.

Crimson by Edge of Sanity is a masterpiece.

All music has a defined structure, including avant garde metal. If you listen to a song, you can always pick out a structure, even if it never repeats itself. Progressive metal redefines contemporary notions of structure; it expresses itself differently from any genre of music, yet remains tastefully contained at the same time.

Avant garde metal is merely progressive metal without any direction, substance, musical purpose. It is not pushing any boundaries. It consists of undisciplined musicianship that attempts to be extreme just for the sake of seeming extreme. There is nothing "sick" about it.

Communistik

Ah, nop, couldn't disagree more with this, calling bands like DSO or Angizia undisciplined and without any substance is, well, a huge mistake.