Metal is dying, metal needs help.

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#101 X360PS3AMD05
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Join Last.fm, check out youtube n such sites, if you like thrash i recommend a local band called "Exmortis"
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#102 Espada12
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As far as I'm concerned most metal is for kids. Especially Death/black and all that stuff. I don't know enough to comment on the state of the genre, though I know many are trying to get a more mainstream voice/lyrics.

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#103 blackngold29
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I don't know what their called. I just hear a friend of mine play this crap music from his phone. Screaming and Distortion.

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Lesson One: Listening to music on a phone should never happen.
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#104 frostybanana
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Don't really know what you're talking about. There are plenty of fantastic, innovative metal bands out there. You just need to do a little digging. There's a hoard of unadulterated crap on top, but if you know what to look for...
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#105 196432160425370547874320627439
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Hold on I'll help....

now where did I put that number to Jack Kavorkian?

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#106 sundown19
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

I'll have a look around for a cool band. Where do you think I should start?

KHAndAnime

Suffocation. Perhaps one of the coolest bands ever.

If you like Suffocation, you should try Psychometry...they've got Mike Smith on drums!

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#107 SPBoss
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I don't know what their called. I just hear a friend of mine play this crap music from his phone. Screaming and Distortion.

DmadFearmonger
That pretty much sums up death metal for me lol
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#108 chessmaster1989
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As far as I'm concerned most metal is for kids. Especially Death/black and all that stuff. I don't know enough to comment on the state of the genre, though I know many are trying to get a more mainstream voice/lyrics.

Espada12

Why do you say that?

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#109 p-ryman
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I don't know what their called. I just hear a friend of mine play this crap music from his phone. Screaming and Distortion.

DmadFearmonger

Are you refering to Death or Black Metal? It's the next level up above Heavy Metal...in a nutshell it's Louder Heavy metal.

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#110 Marfoo
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If you can't open your mind to the screaming vocals, brutality, speed and technicality of some of these bands you're missing a lot of what metal has to offer. I didn't like metal with screaming or growling vocals until I actually started listening to it. Once I did start listening to it I realized there was a plethora of amazing music I was missing by avoiding it.
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#111 wildjango64
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eh i disagree

Core >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gore

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#112 Necrifer
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Everything starts dying as soon as it's born.

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#113 MasterC5
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eh i disagree

Core >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gore

wildjango64

other way around

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#114 Swanogt19
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And people have been saying Hip-Hop is dead. :o

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#115 chaplainDMK
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Try Opeth or something, while they have some growling, they are probably one of the most amazing metal bands out right now if you don't like the ultra agressive types. But yeah, way too many bands are doing Death/Black metal right now, as well as Metalcore/Deathcore
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#116 metallica_fan42
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I guess to an extent, but I'm still occupied with all the old school metal bands, I don't have time for the new ones.
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#117 Atmanix
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Clearly the Metal Militia needs to get its act together.

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#118 wildjango64
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[QUOTE="MasterC5"]

[QUOTE="wildjango64"]

eh i disagree

Core >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gore

other way around

No I didn't make a mistake i honestly like metalcore better
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#119 MrAmbush
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About 40 years ago an English band called Black Sabbath created a new genre of music. This genre is called Heavy Metal. This genre was so new, so original that Black Sabbath built up a massive fan base. Most of which were teenagers at the time. Their parents listened to Jazz and Funk or whatever. It was too heavy for them. Heavy metal over it's 40 years of existence has branched out into many sub genres. Thrash Metal, Punk, Grunge, Progressive Metaland many more different sub genres.

But Metal is falling. After 40 years it has become nothing but distortion and screaming about death, sex and anti-religion. This is pathetic. And so metal is decaying and falling to pop music. Which is even more pathetic. And with the recent death of Ronnie James Dio, A heavy metal LEGEND it's not going to get any better. Unless the next generation of heavy metal musicians have something NEW! to offer the genre it's going to become a thing of the past.

The metal we hear today has no distinct qualities. It's just this band trying to be as good as all the other bands, and so they end up sounding almost the same. There's no creativity involved. This saddens me to see metal die. I want to be able to enjoy newer music. But I can't unless new bands actually offer something original.

DmadFearmonger




Well if you dont like what metal is now (I guess your referring to Bring me the Horizon, Suicide Silence and bands like that) Then stick to your Thrash Metal bands and, what not. You think people were hapyy when rock changed so much? No.

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#120 MrAmbush
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Yeah that's true. I actually like disturbed. Their the kind of band that'll hopefully save the genre.

DmadFearmonger



Nu Metal, is not Metal, its Hard Rock.

Plus the dude from disturbed sings in sylables it sounds pretty dumb to me.

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#121 chaplainDMK
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Clearly the Metal Militia needs to get its act together.

Atmanix
Don't mistake a bunch of pre-pubecent kids for the general metalhead populus... :)
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#122 cyberdarkkid
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New Agalloch disproves your argument single-handedly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1frTKYJoU&feature=related

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#123 MuddVader
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There will always be Metal Bands, but every genre has a prime, and as such, has a fall as well.

I respect Metal for giving me the music I enjoy most (Even though metal purists have a hissy fit at the mention of the genre), but again, Metal IS dying in a sense, but everything dies.. (Or at least Ages, if "dies" is too strong a word for you)

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#124 Hopkins_J
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Slipknot is the best metal band around. If you haven't heard of 'em, check them out. You'll be glad that you did.
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#125 mywalletsgone
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It's not dying lulz

But in terms of orginality and heaviness, at least the way I see it anwyay, it peaked with Strapping Young Lad.

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#126 shadowkiller11
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Well metal can only get help from the bands that contribute to that genre. But yes majority of metal recently has ranged from horrid to mediocre.
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#127 mexicangordo
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[QUOTE="ragek1ll589"]

[QUOTE="mexicangordo"]

Wow a Metal head with a clear and conscious notice of Metals current music scene and atmosphere,surrounded by more narcissistic cliche groups not willing to expand the music to its fullest creativity and capacity, just to continue the iidea of being the outcast. Funny that the so-called "indie" scene is going through something very similar. But for what its worth, I don't think I will ever hear this again in my life time. :P

LionsBridge

There are plenty of bands willing to expand their horizons. The problem is that everyone's perception of metal is the cookie-cutter deathcore and metalcore bands which are the closest metal bands to the mainstream.

I agree Ragek. Whenever I mention that I like Metal to someone they immediately think its all about cookie monster vocals and satanic lyrics

I dont think that at all. In fact how do most people, their are so many sub-genres in metal now its hard to imagine anyone generalize it. Though I do agree that metal fans are stereotyped often.

That doesn't change the current Metal scene though, its lame that the current connotation of metal is, "your either in or your out."

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#128 gugler990
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We need to secure the keys of metal. Once that's done we will execute step 2 Ascend from darkness and all the rest follows

Step 3. Rain fire

Step 4. Unleash the horde.

Step 5. Skewer the winged beast.(Disney)

Step 6. Wield a fist of iron.

Step 7. Raise Hell

Step 8. Freedom.

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#129 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

As far as I'm concerned most metal is for kids. Especially Death/black and all that stuff. I don't know enough to comment on the state of the genre, though I know many are trying to get a more mainstream voice/lyrics.

chessmaster1989

Why do you say that?

The lyrical content.

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#130 SF_KiLLaMaN
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Metal will never die. Even if all metal produced now is terrible, the epicness of old metal will carry on the genre forever.
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#131 CRS98
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If it doesn't sound in the range of this, this, this, or this, you're doing it wrong.

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#132 jaqulle999
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So let me get this straight, you do not even listen to metal? If you do a little bit of searching you'll find all kinds of great bands with different themes. Metal is far from dying.

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#133 superfluidity
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Metal is in great shape today, as are many other musical genres.

The problem is that the music business discovered that good music is not needed to make a profit.

They manufacture their own garbage and market it to the masses, who won't lift a finger to seek out good music and thus only listen to what marketers put in front of their faces.

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#134 Oblivionfan10
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Ugh, you had to choose one of the worst Dream Theater songs :P
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#135 megadeth1117
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the latest Accept record was amazing
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#136 KHAndAnime
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

As far as I'm concerned most metal is for kids. Especially Death/black and all that stuff. I don't know enough to comment on the state of the genre, though I know many are trying to get a more mainstream voice/lyrics.

Espada12

Why do you say that?

The lyrical content.

Reality suspends my present life.
Curious thoughts, I confront my mortality.
Uncertain to the laws of the unknown.
I have no fear in facing trials of the mind one by one.
Sifting through ossuaries of creation.
Looking for a worth, is existence pointless?
Perceptive to the truth, I never may return.
Resistance falling short, I sever all my ties one by one.

Vanish into the unseen origins of infinity.
A pleasant swim in the seas of dormant ecstacy.
A state of being I could spend with all of eternity.
Suspended above the remains of what I used to be.

I can see things not capable of imagining.
The explanation of my mind has progressed me endlessly.
Things that once were illusions have become reality.
I perceive now what was never clear to me.

Unwelcomed kind.
No way to overcome, I'm disadvantaged prey.
My way back has been erased.

Torn from my bliss.
No longer bound in flesh, a dismembered soul.
Helpless to what I can't see.

Unwelcomed kind.
No way to overcome, a disembodied soul.
My way back has been erased.

I must focus on what I can't see.
Things done to me, I cannot explain.
Falling further from myself.
To give in would end all my pain.
Subconscious misery placed unto me.

Is their meaning to this life?
To break away transparent light.
The end is clearer.
Pass through the mirror.
I fade into the sky.

Hanging in the balance.
Drowning in the afterlife.

Suspended in Tribulation by Suffocation

Yea, the lyrical content is for kids. :roll:

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#137 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]

Yeah that's true. I actually like disturbed. Their the kind of band that'll hopefully save the genre.

MrAmbush



Nu Metal, is not Metal, its Hard Rock.

Plus the dude from disturbed sings in sylables it sounds pretty dumb to me.

Disturbed is Metal and they are one of the best bands out there. You need to listen to more of disturbed's music. They are one of my favorite bands.

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#138 skooks
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I listen to various sub-genres of metal and it's doing just fine. I think you're listening to the wrong bands.

Intronaut
The Ocean
Rosetta
Converge
Cloudkicker
Tesseract
Celestine
Cult of Luna
The Dillinger Escape Plan
Ion Dissonance

etc.

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#139 RobboElRobbo
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New Agalloch disproves your argument single-handedly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1frTKYJoU&feature=related

cyberdarkkid

I'm in love with that album right now. Best album of 2010 as far as I'm concerned

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#140 shadowkiller11
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I guess to an extent, but I'm still occupied with all the old school metal bands, I don't have time for the new ones.metallica_fan42
Anthrax rules!!!
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#141 RobboElRobbo
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Slipknot is the best metal band around. If you haven't heard of 'em, check them out. You'll be glad that you did.Hopkins_J

Ha ha ha... Good joke.

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#144 red12355
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I think the European metal scene is doing quite well. Check out some bands like Sonata Arctica, Edguy, Stratovarius, Falconer, etc. etc. Clean vocals, great riffs. I like some screaming every now and then too. "Heroes to Us" by Kalmah is one of the best metal songs I have heard.
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#145 iloverikku11
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ummm haha, metal has never been better. If you like classic bands like that, there is a huge revival of that going on. Try Striker, Reverend Bizzare, Baroness, and Kvelterak (spelling might be wrong.)

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#146 -Tish-
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[QUOTE="Hopkins_J"]Slipknot is the best metal band around. If you haven't heard of 'em, check them out. You'll be glad that you did.RobboElRobbo

Ha ha ha... Good joke.

No for real man... No other band captures the essence of stellar music quite like Slapknut... Err I mean Slipknot.
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#147 RobboElRobbo
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I think the European metal scene is doing quite well. Check out some bands like Sonata Arctica, Edguy, Stratovarius, Falconer, etc. etc. Clean vocals, great riffs. I like some screaming every now and then too. "Heroes to Us" by Kalmah is one of the best metal songs I have heard.red12355

So many great bands coming from especially Sweden and Finland right now.

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#148 p-ryman
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Metal will never die. Even if all metal produced now is terrible, the epicness of old metal will carry on the genre forever.SF_KiLLaMaN
I

cannot agree more. OLD METAL RULES!!! Death Metal is ok, but no metal now is close to Black Sabbath or Iron Maiden.

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#149 cyberdarkkid
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[QUOTE="cyberdarkkid"]

New Agalloch disproves your argument single-handedly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss1frTKYJoU&feature=related

RobboElRobbo

I'm in love with that album right now. Best album of 2010 as far as I'm concerned

Yea Watcher's Monolith has to be my favorite out of the album.
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#150 LionsBridge
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[QUOTE="RobboElRobbo"][QUOTE="Hopkins_J"]Slipknot is the best metal band around. If you haven't heard of 'em, check them out. You'll be glad that you did.-Tish-

Ha ha ha... Good joke.

No for real man... No other band captures the essence of stellar music quite like Slapknut... Err I mean Slipknot.

No Vanilla Ice captures all that is good about music!