Metallica

Everyone thinks old metallica is better than new metallica.

Really? Like five people like anything passed Justice. Apparently, hair length has something to do with musical talent. :?

Musicianship-wise, old. Musical taste-wise, it's purely opinion.

...AJFA and K'emA Where both great album (even through the poor mixing/production.) Puppets kidna sucked and RTL had a few good songs on it.

no one thinks new metallica is better. metallica rode the dave mustaine riff mobile until they ran out of things to steal, then they started their musical decline with master of puppets, and then with and justice for all they attempted to be prog / technical / try a lot of stuff and it backfired on them with the exception of the title track and one. shortest straw and harvester of sorrow being two of their worst pre black songs.nimatoad2000

Many of the riffs are Dave's, yes. But some of their most renowned work came from Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets. Those in which Dave had wrote very few riffs for.

if you want to know why master of puppets was not only the decline for metallica, but thrash in general because it because so generic / samey with every band copying the other. go to metal archives, and read the master of puppets review by ultraboris. he sums things up almost perfectly.

in a nutshell what he says is that master of puppets brought us the metallica that slowed things down, dropped the technicality, and made things more mainstream accessable ( lars and james had already tried to get a hit with escape off of RTL.. no wonder its one of their worst pre black songs) thus in doing so they showed many lesser known bands, with their sucess, that you do not need to be making albums like peace sells, or shred like yngwie to become popular. metallica showed other bands that being mediocre, but accessable ( not too heavy for normal listeners) was the way to go to become popular. and thus out the window went musicianship. now my summary is nowhere near as well written as his. but his review is like 3-4 pages long :P .

Old Metallica is the best Metallica.

Other than that I dont care much for them anymore... so bleh.

But their old stuff is good.

[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]no one thinks new metallica is better. metallica rode the dave mustaine riff mobile until they ran out of things to steal, then they started their musical decline with master of puppets, and then with and justice for all they attempted to be prog / technical / try a lot of stuff and it backfired on them with the exception of the title track and one. shortest straw and harvester of sorrow being two of their worst pre black songs.WushuFighter

Many of the riffs are Dave's, yes. But some of their most renowned work came from Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets. Those in which Dave had wrote very few riffs for.

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[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]no one thinks new metallica is better. metallica rode the dave mustaine riff mobile until they ran out of things to steal, then they started their musical decline with master of puppets, and then with and justice for all they attempted to be prog / technical / try a lot of stuff and it backfired on them with the exception of the title track and one. shortest straw and harvester of sorrow being two of their worst pre black songs.nimatoad2000

Many of the riffs are Dave's, yes. But some of their most renowned work came from Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets. Those in which Dave had wrote very few riffs for.

I wasn't arguing about which was Dave's and which wasn't. Even though he wrote much of their old stuff, they still would have made it on their own without him. Half of RTL, MOP, and their self-titled album reveal that fact.

i've been listening to a lot of them lately. i love the ride the lightning album, ride the lightning is probably my favorite metallica song. i'm also digging blackened and dyers eve right now. i don't give a crap what riffs dave wrote, good for him, he can stroke his **** that much bigger if he wants, i like the songs and that's all i care about. i'm trying to learn to play ride the lightning on guitar. the solo's kind of hard for me, but i'm getting there.

RTL and KEA were decent. Master Of Puppets just copied RTL in structure, but Cliff knew what he was doing for the most part when he stuck to the formula. AJFA was mediocre at best. Weak bass, guitars chugging along, same old Lars beating away savagely and without an ounce of ability...it's boring, simplistic and gets old very fast. At least the old albums had more elements to them. It kept them interesting...

From then on I barely recognize Metallica's existence. I'm not a big fan of them in general though.

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Many of the riffs are Dave's, yes. But some of their most renowned work came from Ride The Lightning and Master Of Puppets. Those in which Dave had wrote very few riffs for.

WushuFighter

I wasn't arguing about which was Dave's and which wasn't. Even though he wrote much of their old stuff, they still would have made it on their own without him. Half of RTL, MOP, and their self-titled album reveal that fact.

i've been listening to a lot of them lately. i love the ride the lightning album, ride the lightning is probably my favorite metallica song. i'm also digging blackened and dyers eve right now. i don't give a crap what riffs dave wrote, good for him, he can stroke his **** that much bigger if he wants, i like the songs and that's all i care about. i'm trying to learn to play ride the lightning on guitar. the solo's kind of hard for me, but i'm getting there.

needled24-7

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i've been listening to a lot of them lately. i love the ride the lightning album, ride the lightning is probably my favorite metallica song. i'm also digging blackened and dyers eve right now. i don't give a crap what riffs dave wrote, good for him, he can stroke his **** that much bigger if he wants, i like the songs and that's all i care about. i'm trying to learn to play ride the lightning on guitar. the solo's kind of hard for me, but i'm getting there.

nimatoad2000

metallica only has like 5 or 6 good songs in all their career...and gues what? one is not part of those 6 lightleggy

Did anyone here say it was? :?

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]metallica only has like 5 or 6 good songs in all their career...and gues what? one is not part of those 6 Dark_Knight6

Did anyone here say it was? :?

Really? Like five people like anything passed Justice. Apparently, hair length has something to do with musical talent. :?

Dark_Knight6

It does, and it always will.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Really? Like five people like anything passed Justice. Apparently, hair length has something to do with musical talent. :?

StripTheSoul

It does, and it always will.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. If you are, my bad. If you're not, :|.

I don't think anybody thinks new Metallica is better than the old one. All the albums up to Load were great. From there on they kind of went down. I like Death Magnetic though; their best album in a while. I just hope they get back to playing like they did in RTL and MP. They still put on awesome shows but James doesn't have that intensity in his voice anymore. Something about him blowing out his voicebox or something.

No vocalist will have the same voice in his forties that he did in his twenties. It's just something that comes with age.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]metallica only has like 5 or 6 good songs in all their career...and gues what? one is not part of those 6 Dark_Knight6

Did anyone here say it was? :?

Musicianship-wise, old. Musical taste-wise, it's purely opinion.

WushuFighter

I think Lars' drumming got better through out the years, but yeah, other than that, they went backwards.

no one said it but we are on gamespot forums...its obvious that around 90% of OT loves GH3 and its obvious that they always play that song...lightleggy

It's not obvious. You're just making a massive assumption.

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[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

Really? Like five people like anything passed Justice. Apparently, hair length has something to do with musical talent. :?

Dark_Knight6

It does, and it always will.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic. If you are, my bad. If you're not, :|.

DOHOHOHO

Seriously though everytime a band changes their hairstyles/lengths then **** goes down. Metallica, Arctic Monkeys and Kings of Leon are good examples.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

no one said it but we are on gamespot forums...its obvious that around 90% of OT loves GH3 and its obvious that they always play that song...Dark_Knight6

It's not obvious. You're just making a massive assumption.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

no one said it but we are on gamespot forums...its obvious that around 90% of OT loves GH3 and its obvious that they always play that song...Dark_Knight6

It's not obvious. You're just making a massive assumption.

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

no one said it but we are on gamespot forums...its obvious that around 90% of OT loves GH3 and its obvious that they always play that song...lightleggy

It's not obvious. You're just making a massive assumption.

You haven't been around long, how would you know?

Old Metallica great, then St. Anger came and that was a monstrosity, Death Magnetic brought back old Metallica for me. :)

I prefer Metallica's older music, although I've found the more I listen to metal, the softer Metallica becomes. Now, listening to bands like Cannibal Corpse, and The Black Dahlia Murder, I find that Metallica is slow and light compared to everything else. I find myself more and more inclined to skip a Metallica song. Still, that being said, Master of Puppets is still a great song(And album), and the song "...And Justice for All" is one of my all time favourite Metallica tunes.MisterCyotie

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

no one said it but we are on gamespot forums...its obvious that around 90% of OT loves GH3 and its obvious that they always play that song...lightleggy

It's not obvious. You're just making a massive assumption.

No, it's not. Guitar Hero III came out what, three years ago? Saying that 90% of OT plays that game and always play One is a statistic you've pulled out of thin air.

RTL and MoP are better than anything else they've done.

During Reload they started sucking but they've redeemed themselves with Death Magnetic.

And for the record I like RTL better than MoP.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"]

It's not obvious. You're just making a massive assumption.

StripTheSoul

You haven't been around long, how would you know?

l like the Old one.. and I never forget the Enter sadman song... Rock on dude!

metallica only has like 5 or 6 good songs in all their career...and gues what? one is not part of those 6 lightleggy

WHAT?:x. One is one of their best songs.

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]metallica only has like 5 or 6 good songs in all their career...and gues what? one is not part of those 6 applesxc47

WHAT?:x. One is one of their best songs.

Never heard of them, name sounds familiar though.

Never heard of them, name sounds familiar though.

St_JimmyX

yeah not many peps have heard of them...but I bet you have...heres a pic of the band...so that you may recall them...

[QUOTE="St_JimmyX"]

Never heard of them, name sounds familiar though.

lightleggy

yeah not many peps have heard of them...but I bet you have...heres a pic of the band...so that you may recall them...

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

[QUOTE="St_JimmyX"]

Never heard of them, name sounds familiar though.

Saturos3091

yeah not many peps have heard of them...but I bet you have...heres a pic of the band...so that you may recall them...

[QUOTE="lightleggy"]metallica only has like 5 or 6 good songs in all their career...and gues what? one is not part of those 6 applesxc47

WHAT?:x. One is one of their best songs.