Mexican Drug Cartel hires hackers, captures member of Anonymous

Am I the only person wondering why almost everyone is defending the cartel? Or atleast against annon.

If annon exposed them, wouldn't that be a good thing?

If annon was going to expose Osama's location, and Al-Qaeda threatened them, would you defend Al-Qaeda?

Considering most of the guys taking part in this are from the US or other parts of the world, and that the cartels really only have reach within Mexico, I don't see anon being in too much danger. Not to mention that if they did attack citizens of other countries in other countries, the consequences would be pretty severe.gameguy6700

Am I the only person wondering why almost everyone is defending the cartel? Or atleast against annon.

If annon exposed them, wouldn't that be a good thing?

If annon was going to expose Osama's location, and Al-Qaeda threatened them, would you defend Al-Qaeda?

jesuschristmonk

I think most of the defense is sarcasm and not genuine hope the cartels slaughter Anonymous members. You might have a small handful who support the Cartels since they're pumping their source of pot into the US (certain users only refrain from bragging about pot use due to the TOU) but everybody else would hate to see a bunch of pale, bony or overweight virgins shot up over this.

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]Considering most of the guys taking part in this are from the US or other parts of the world, and that the cartels really only have reach within Mexico, I don't see anon being in too much danger. Not to mention that if they did attack citizens of other countries in other countries, the consequences would be pretty severe.EmpCom

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

Am I the only person wondering why almost everyone is defending the cartel? Or atleast against annon.

If annon exposed them, wouldn't that be a good thing?

If annon was going to expose Osama's location, and Al-Qaeda threatened them, would you defend Al-Qaeda?

jesuschristmonk

[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]Considering most of the guys taking part in this are from the US or other parts of the world, and that the cartels really only have reach within Mexico, I don't see anon being in too much danger. Not to mention that if they did attack citizens of other countries in other countries, the consequences would be pretty severe.CHOASXIII

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"]

Am I the only person wondering why almost everyone is defending the cartel? Or atleast against annon.

If annon exposed them, wouldn't that be a good thing?

If annon was going to expose Osama's location, and Al-Qaeda threatened them, would you defend Al-Qaeda?

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I think most of the defense is sarcasm and not genuine hope the cartels slaughter Anonymous members. You might have a small handful who support the Cartels since they're pumping their source of pot into the US (certain users only refrain from bragging about pot use due to the TOU) but everybody else would hate to see a bunch of pale, bony or overweight virgins shot up over this.

Well they won't get shot up they will just get some bean burritos thrown at them or something. I highly doubt they have much more firepower then having guys coming in and farting all over the foreveralone.jpg's basement caves.

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[QUOTE="jesuschristmonk"]

Am I the only person wondering why almost everyone is defending the cartel? Or atleast against annon.

If annon exposed them, wouldn't that be a good thing?

If annon was going to expose Osama's location, and Al-Qaeda threatened them, would you defend Al-Qaeda?

CHOASXIII

I think most of the defense is sarcasm and not genuine hope the cartels slaughter Anonymous members. You might have a small handful who support the Cartels since they're pumping their source of pot into the US (certain users only refrain from bragging about pot use due to the TOU) but everybody else would hate to see a bunch of pale, bony or overweight virgins shot up over this.

Well they won't get shot up they will just get some bean burritos thrown at them or something. I highly doubt they have much more firepower then having guys coming in and farting all over the foreveralone.jpg's basement caves.

"There be a **** storm a brewin"

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[QUOTE="EmpCom"] You really dont have any idea do youchaoscougar1

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

Yeah I found one last week, I thought we was my neighbor Todd until I saw him with his sombrero on and a .45 on his side.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]Considering most of the guys taking part in this are from the US or other parts of the world, and that the cartels really only have reach within Mexico, I don't see anon being in too much danger. Not to mention that if they did attack citizens of other countries in other countries, the consequences would be pretty severe.CHOASXIII

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

supa_badman

I hope anon gets what's coming to them.

Holy **** I want front row seats to this one.

[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

supa_badman

Ohoho, that slaps me on the knee!

But oy, you know something's not right in this world when there are notorious organizations known to be criminal with the utmost certainty, yet we let bureaucracy and corruption and whatnot hamper the pursuit of justice. How sheepish have our societies gotten that the public allows the system to work this way, determined by those few % at the top? Too much, to be sure.

Which is why I said in another topic that they have balls for even attempting this. It's one of the best ways to put your life at risk.

Animatronic64

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="CHOASXIII"]

I have an idea of where my pants are. Anyways on topic, yes the Mexican drug cartel can get to other countries but the odds of them finding these certain people without being found out would be pretty slim.

CHOASXIII

Yeah I found one last week, I thought we was my neighbor Todd until I saw him with his sombrero on and a .45 on his side.

These stupid kids who think they are "awesome hackerz" don't know what they have gotten themselves into.

These cartels do not mess around. Threaten to expose their leaders? They will hunt you down and kill you and your family.

Probably won't develop into anything, but you never konw.

It kinda hilarious and scary at the same time. Mexican anonymous members aren't taking part because they are too scared. I wonder if we are going to start seeing headless nerds on the news

Meat_Wad_Fan

i kinda want to see that happen these nerds are really annoying and just need to go away

The worse case here is that some anarchists and cartel members get hurt/arrested/abducted/killed. This seems really win-win to me.

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It kinda hilarious and scary at the same time. Mexican anonymous members aren't taking part because they are too scared. I wonder if we are going to start seeing headless nerds on the news

MrMe1000

i kinda want to see that happen these nerds are really annoying and just need to go away

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[QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

It kinda hilarious and scary at the same time. Mexican anonymous members aren't taking part because they are too scared. I wonder if we are going to start seeing headless nerds on the news

hydralisk86

i kinda want to see that happen these nerds are really annoying and just need to go away

anonymous may have f***ed with the wrong group of people. maybe we will find out.

Anonymous should just expose their leaders then. If their leaders go down, most likely, funds will be cut and they will have no way to go after Anonymous heads. Well, at least that what Anonymous should hope...tocool340

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[QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

It kinda hilarious and scary at the same time. Mexican anonymous members aren't taking part because they are too scared. I wonder if we are going to start seeing headless nerds on the news

hydralisk86

i kinda want to see that happen these nerds are really annoying and just need to go away

How does the cartel know if it hired Anonymous members to protect them from Anonymous (since they're... you know... anonymous and all)? :P

How does the cartel know if it hired Anonymous members to protect them from Anonymous (since they're... you know... anonymous and all)? :P

OrkHammer007

Even though Anon are self serving, the Cartel are scum that walk this planet and the people and families who are victims to them in Mexico would voice their contempt if they could.

Eventually in the end any oppressive regime, organisationor group will face a back lash from vigilantes and groups or people who have the skill and courage to stand up to fear.

The Zetas can go to hell.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]I think the government will interfere...mexicangordo

The Cartel are entrenched in the Mexican Government and other public services.

Who do you know to trust when a government official, Police, journalist, Cab driver etc could be working for the Cartel, at the same time you could have undercover agents working in the Cartel dismantling it... ANON needs to be careful, who to give the information to, not blow agents covers and arouse suspicion and what to do with it.

I believe in ANON's intentions in this regards, but I really really hope ANNON knows its stuff for the sake of people in Mexico.

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]I think the government will interfere...AdmiralBison

The Cartel are entrenched in the Mexican Government and other public services.

Who do you know to trust when a government official, Police, journalist, Cab driver etc could be working for the Cartel, at the same time you could have undercover agents working in the Cartel dismantling it... ANON needs to be careful, who to give the information to, not blow agents covers and arouse suspicion and what to do with it.

I believe in ANON's intentions in this regards, but I really really hope ANNON knows its stuff for the sake of people in Mexico.

They bit off WAY MORE than they could chew

Hence why they Withdrew their attack

It's not a bunch of CEOs and highly regarded companies they are going after, it's a group of people who kill for a living, they make money off crime

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

How does the cartel know if it hired Anonymous members to protect them from Anonymous (since they're... you know... anonymous and all)? :P

Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

How does the cartel know if it hired Anonymous members to protect them from Anonymous (since they're... you know... anonymous and all)? :P

OrkHammer007

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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]More importantly, what if an innocent person gets mistaken for an anonymous member and gets killed because of the actions of anonymous. It can happen. Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]Innocent people (such as the families of those who have opposed the cartels in the past) have already died. Whether Anon goes through with the attacks or not, more innocent blood will likely be spilled. Sad, but until someone takes them down or diminishes their influence, there isn't an end in sight.

chaoscougar1

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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]I bet legalizing all drugs would be their worst nightmare. I'm sorry, but I just don't see an end to it at this point. Either all humans will have to stop taking drugs, or Mexico is going to need a really powerful dictator who isn't afraid to wipe any opposition out by lethal force.Animatronic64

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[QUOTE="mexicangordo"] It is simply not that easy. If the government had hardly any effect when they attacked other organizations including BART and Sony, I doubt they will interfere with this.

chaoscougar1

The Cartel are entrenched in the Mexican Government and other public services.

Who do you know to trust when a government official, Police, journalist, Cab driver etc could be working for the Cartel, at the same time you could have undercover agents working in the Cartel dismantling it... ANON needs to be careful, who to give the information to, not blow agents covers and arouse suspicion and what to do with it.

I believe in ANON's intentions in this regards, but I really really hope ANNON knows its stuff for the sake of people in Mexico.

They bit off WAY MORE than they could chew

Hence why they Withdrew their attack

It's not a bunch of CEOs and highly regarded companies they are going after, it's a group of people who kill for a living, they make money off crime

I don't doubt ANON's ability to do what they can do, and they are are disputing on wirthdrawing their attack. It doesn't mean they will.

If the Zeta make money by killing for a living then bankrupt them, take away their power and go after their bank accounts, siphon of their transactions, interfere in their dealings, tip there whereabouts off to rival gangs it will be their problem. (Divide them)

The point is thereareinterest groups andindividuals who do not want wars and bloodshed to end because they make money of it.

Kill the money supply, legalize drugs so it will not go underground and law abiding businesses can sell and trade it, cut of weapons trade.

ANNON should know this by now. Information is power.

Otherwise how many more decades will Mexico be like this?

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Ahhh taking a leaf out of Africa's book, that seems to have worked well for them

chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"]Well, don't mean to be blunt, but the Mexican government is going to have to man up if they plan on containing this problem. If they don't, pretty soon the situation will escalate for the worst. Oh, and killing does work. How do you think the Mexican Drug cartels got as far as they did?

Animatronic64

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Did you just compare a Mexican Drug Cartel to a successful government? :lol:chaoscougar1

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

How does the cartel know if it hired Anonymous members to protect them from Anonymous (since they're... you know... anonymous and all)? :P

OrkHammer007

exactly.

There are those who do notwant war and blood shed to end. As long as the blood money keeps flowing, realblood will continue to spill.

All you have to do is look at places in Africa where warlords have been fighting for decades and continue to fight and innocents (many of them children) suffer. It's not a question of independence but power at the expense of the people. It will not stop.

The Zeta's real influence and power does not just come from the killing of people but from spreading fear. The one way to overcome such fear is through knowlege and courage.

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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"] Yes, because the Mexican government is so successful, which would explain the perfectly wonderful situation in Mexico. Animatronic64

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Not what I meant, I was commenting on your "killing does work" line of thought on how to produce a good government foundation

chaoscougar1

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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"] Yes, because the Mexican government is so successful, which would explain the perfectly wonderful situation in Mexico. Animatronic64

as far as we know The Cartel is the government there.

Is there confidence in the Mexican government?

Can the people of Mexico trust the Mexican Government?

Is there even a constitution?

We don't want a war to keep going indefinately, but we also don't want an organisations who's values are blood money first, freedom for the people second to be in power.

They will have no democracy, no acceptance of differing opinions and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Viva La Revolucion! I say.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

How does the cartel know if it hired Anonymous members to protect them from Anonymous (since they're... you know... anonymous and all)? :P

Animatronic64

I don't know anyone who wears a Guy Fawkes mask in public all the time.

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Not what I meant, I was commenting on your "killing does work" line of thought on how to produce a good government foundation

AdmiralBison

as far as we know The Cartel is the government there.

Is there confidence in the Mexican government?

Can the people of Mexico trust the Mexican Government?

Is there even a constitution?

We don't want a war to keep going indefinately, but we also don't want an organisations who's values are blood money first, freedom for the people second to be in power.

They will have no democracy, no acceptance of differing opinions and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Viva La Revolucion! I say.