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#101 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]Killing does work. How do you think wars are won? The drug cartels got the right idea. The government does not. Arresting these people won't do jack. Killing a few members won't do jack. You have to put a lot more effort into it. But I don't know. Maybe it would be better if the drug cartels maintained power. I doubt the Mexican government serves in the best interest of its people. And who knows? Maybe things will play out for the best when the drug cartels completely take over.

Animatronic64

as far as we know The Cartel is the government there.

Is there confidence in the Mexican government?

Can the people of Mexico trust the Mexican Government?

Is there even a constitution?

We don't want a war to keep going indefinately, but we also don't want an organisations who's values are blood money first, freedom for the people second to be in power.

They will have no democracy, no acceptance of differing opinions and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Viva La Revolucion! I say.

Pretty much this. It has come down to the point where a violent overthrow is the only solution.

Then there's that whole cartel having all the guns problem to deal with...

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#102 Animatronic64
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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

as far as we know The Cartel is the government there.

Is there confidence in the Mexican government?

Can the people of Mexico trust the Mexican Government?

Is there even a constitution?

We don't want a war to keep going indefinately, but we also don't want an organisations who's values are blood money first, freedom for the people second to be in power.

They will have no democracy, no acceptance of differing opinions and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Viva La Revolucion! I say.

THE_DRUGGIE

Pretty much this. It has come down to the point where a violent overthrow is the only solution.

Then there's that whole cartel having all the guns problem to deal with...

Uh... uh.. drop the bomb!
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#103 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"]Killing does work. How do you think wars are won? The drug cartels got the right idea. The government does not. Arresting these people won't do jack. Killing a few members won't do jack. You have to put a lot more effort into it. But I don't know. Maybe it would be better if the drug cartels maintained power. I doubt the Mexican government serves in the best interest of its people. And who knows? Maybe things will play out for the best when the drug cartels completely take over.

Animatronic64

as far as we know The Cartel is the government there.

Is there confidence in the Mexican government?

Can the people of Mexico trust the Mexican Government?

Is there even a constitution?

We don't want a war to keep going indefinately, but we also don't want an organisations who's values are blood money first, freedom for the people second to be in power.

They will have no democracy, no acceptance of differing opinions and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Viva La Revolucion! I say.

Pretty much this. It has come down to the point where a violent overthrow is the only solution.

I wish there was some other way though.

How did the United States government form? How did the United States and it's 13 colonies become independent from England- I hope it wasn't mostly from war.

I will need to study this one..:(

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#104 Animatronic64
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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]

as far as we know The Cartel is the government there.

Is there confidence in the Mexican government?

Can the people of Mexico trust the Mexican Government?

Is there even a constitution?

We don't want a war to keep going indefinately, but we also don't want an organisations who's values are blood money first, freedom for the people second to be in power.

They will have no democracy, no acceptance of differing opinions and absolute power corrupts absolutley.

Viva La Revolucion! I say.

AdmiralBison

Pretty much this. It has come down to the point where a violent overthrow is the only solution.

I wish there was some other way though.

How did the United States government form? How did the United States and it's 13 colonies become independent from England- I hope it wasn't mostly from war.

I will need to study this one..:(

USA was lucky. They had the advantage of being separated from England by an ocean. If the USA was formed next door to England, it wouldn't exist today.

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#105 lilasianwonder
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I look forward to the outcome of this whole thing.
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#106 Animatronic64
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I look forward to the outcome of this whole thing.lilasianwonder
It's been confirmed as total bullcrap.
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#107 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]Anonymous should just expose their leaders then. If their leaders go down, most likely, funds will be cut and they will have no way to go after Anonymous heads. Well, at least that what Anonymous should hope...lightleggy
cartels are not vipers, they are hydras, cut one head and other 2 come out...its impossible to "cut the funding" of a cartel, even if they kill their leaders, there will ALWAYS be another one who was waiting for years to get the job

Well, its not impossible. It will be a VERY difficult task to get rid of them like getting rid of terrorist in the middle east. I'm aware that just getting rid of their leaders probably won't be enough. That's why I said Anonymous should hope that doing the action might get them to back off. If not, they would need to sleep with one eye open for the rest of their life...
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#108 achilles614
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[QUOTE="lilasianwonder"]I look forward to the outcome of this whole thing.Animatronic64
It's been confirmed as total bullcrap.

wait wah?
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#110 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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I suppose with the right resources that cartel could be very dangerous. Hackers can be hacked themselves.

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#111 Palantas
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I suppose with the right resources that cartel could be very dangerous. Hackers can be hacked themselves.

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"Right resources" being amounts of money that a hacker group could only dream about. And "dangerous" being guys without automatic weapons showing up at your house, I think.

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#112 Solid_Snake325
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Yeah I wouldn't really mess with the mexican drug cartel. But that's just me.
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#113 debusentel
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What is Anon's goal in this, anyone know? I support them on this one. These cartels need to have SOMETHING happen to them. The whole situation is crazy, logic would dictate that the US borders (only two) should be safe, yet within the last two years their have been more casualties/deaths than in both wars combined and the US government seems to be impotent on this. IDK, the whole thing is crazy.......

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#114 RandoIph
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Why doesn't the US just designate the Zetas as a terrorist organization and bomb them?
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#115 CrimsonBrute  Moderator
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This is probably going to be the only time I root for a drug cartel to succeed.
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#116 debusentel
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This is probably going to be the only time I root for a drug cartel to succeed.F22_King_Raptor

Seriously......? I mean no offense but you must be unaware of all the atrocities they have committed (Cartels). Anon is guilty of knocking down a few networks/servers/etc.... but nothing even close to what the Cartels do.

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#117 shadowkiller11
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Kinda frightening how determined and vengeful these cartels could be. I wonder if these drug cartels will actually succeed... what will their actions be? Their heads on display to scare any potential offenders?
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#118 horgen  Moderator
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I'm guessing most of the anon members wanting to do this are staying in other countries than Mexico... Sure they can track them down, but they will have to send or contact someone in the other country to do the job...
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#119 Meat_Wad_Fan
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[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="lilasianwonder"]I look forward to the outcome of this whole thing.achilles614
It's been confirmed as total bullcrap.

wait wah?

The news on CNN is reporting a member of anonymous was captured by the Zetas now. So I have no idea where he got that from.

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#120 Necrifer
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The news on CNN is reporting a member of anonymous was captured by the Zetas now. So I have no idea where he got that from.

Meat_Wad_Fan

Oh ****

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[QUOTE="F22_King_Raptor"]This is probably going to be the only time I root for a drug cartel to succeed.debusentel

Seriously......? I mean no offense but you must be unaware of all the atrocities they have committed (Cartels). Anon is guilty of knocking down a few networks/servers/etc.... but nothing even close to what the Cartels do.

I just support the idea that the zetas find out who these guys are and "take care of them".

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#122 bobcheeseball
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:shock: This just got a lot more interesting.
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[QUOTE="achilles614"][QUOTE="Animatronic64"] It's been confirmed as total bullcrap. Meat_Wad_Fan

wait wah?

The news on CNN is reporting a member of anonymous was captured by the Zetas now. So I have no idea where he got that from.

*Shakes head* Silly anon, should have stuck to facebook
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[QUOTE="F22_King_Raptor"]This is probably going to be the only time I root for a drug cartel to succeed.debusentel

Seriously......? I mean no offense but you must be unaware of all the atrocities they have committed (Cartels). Anon is guilty of knocking down a few networks/servers/etc.... but nothing even close to what the Cartels do.

such as what? beheading some snitches? i root for the cartels as long as no innocents are killed. they are delivering a product to the customer. simple as that.
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[QUOTE="debusentel"]

[QUOTE="F22_King_Raptor"]This is probably going to be the only time I root for a drug cartel to succeed.mingmao3046

Seriously......? I mean no offense but you must be unaware of all the atrocities they have committed (Cartels). Anon is guilty of knocking down a few networks/servers/etc.... but nothing even close to what the Cartels do.

such as what? beheading some snitches? i root for the cartels as long as no innocents are killed. they are delivering a product to the customer. simple as that.

So you root for an organization that routinely murders police, military, US citizens, children, women and various thousands of innocents for no reason other than disaproving of them?

I hope this just convinces anonymous to push harder and expose these jerks. Besides, its not like the cartel could capture those who are smart about hiding where they do their stuff or live in freaking Canada and Australia.

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#126 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="debusentel"]

Seriously......? I mean no offense but you must be unaware of all the atrocities they have committed (Cartels). Anon is guilty of knocking down a few networks/servers/etc.... but nothing even close to what the Cartels do.

SPYDER0416

such as what? beheading some snitches? i root for the cartels as long as no innocents are killed. they are delivering a product to the customer. simple as that.

So you root for an organization that routinely murders police, military, US citizens, children, women and various thousands of innocents for no reason other than disaproving of them?

I hope this just convinces anonymous to push harder and expose these jerks. Besides, its not like the cartel could capture those who are smart about hiding where they do their stuff or live in freaking Canada and Australia.

Push harder? hahahaha If I were anon, I would seriously back up. You seriously underestimate the resources of a multi-billion dollar a year organisation
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#127 SPYDER0416
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Yeah I wouldn't really mess with the mexican drug cartel. But that's just me.Solid_Snake325

I used to think the same thing, then my girlfriend Catalina screwed me over during a robbery and I ended up working with the New York Yakuza to kill her, the leader, and dozens of members and stop the spread of SPANK. Now every gang in the city hates me (especially the Mafia since I killed their leader), but eh.

True story.

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#128 CptJSparrow
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They ****ed with the wrong people.
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#129 supa_badman
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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] i root for the cartels as long as no innocents are killed.

Do you really think they would actually have to grab an anonymous person to send a message? For all we know, the 'anon' they captured is just some random guy to get anon off their back. Specifically killing an Anonymous member doesn't even have to happen, they can just pin anything on anyone because they're anonymous.
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#130 SPYDER0416
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[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] such as what? beheading some snitches? i root for the cartels as long as no innocents are killed. they are delivering a product to the customer. simple as that. chaoscougar1

So you root for an organization that routinely murders police, military, US citizens, children, women and various thousands of innocents for no reason other than disaproving of them?

I hope this just convinces anonymous to push harder and expose these jerks. Besides, its not like the cartel could capture those who are smart about hiding where they do their stuff or live in freaking Canada and Australia.

Push harder? hahahaha If I were anon, I would seriously back up. You seriously underestimate the resources of a multi-billion dollar a year organisation

You really think the Cartel is going to be able to do anything to active anonymous hackers in Australia, the Ukraine, Russia, Canada, England or Hawaii?

I mean sure they could try, but I don't think angering entire governments across the world to kill a few internet hackers would be in their best interest instead of just losing a few of their own members or getting insulted online.

Honestly, I kind of hate anonymous (they are just a tad annoying and the harassing of kids is pretty iiotic), but I think people shouldn't let this stuff happen. All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't even care about the drug running (hey, its a living and some people want to party I guess), but murdering people just because they are against you murdering people is kind of something I'm against.

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#131 Gibsonsg527
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Anonymous has no Idea what they are doing. If the Drug cartel finds a member they will kill his or her entire family tif they get in the way. The cartel doesn't care who gets in their way. I hope there will be no bloodshed.

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#132 omus101
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such as what? beheading some snitches? i root for the cartels as long as no innocents are killed. they are delivering a product to the customer. simple as that. mingmao3046

They do kill innocent people why the hell would you root for them. I've known people kidnapped by them who were lucky to survive. So what if Anon are snitches, these guys need to be taken down. Plus their "product" is just **** brown mexican schwag.

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#133 deactivated-5fc147aeeb0aa
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[QUOTE="Meat_Wad_Fan"]

The news on CNN is reporting a member of anonymous was captured by the Zetas now. So I have no idea where he got that from.

Necrifer

Oh ****

Mhm, hears the link.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/11/03/exp-nr-anonymous-v-zetas-mpg.cnn

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#134 T_REX305
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I'm with anon with this one.

i actually support the cartels as long as they dont kill any innocentsmingmao3046

lol like thats gonna happen...

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#135 Animatronic64
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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]Yeah I wouldn't really mess with the mexican drug cartel. But that's just me.SPYDER0416

I used to think the same thing, then my girlfriend Catalina screwed me over during a robbery and I ended up working with the New York Yakuza to kill her, the leader, and dozens of members and stop the spread of SPANK. Now every gang in the city hates me (especially the Mafia since I killed their leader), but eh.

True story.

You and I must be the same person. I am pretty damn sure the exact same thing happened to me.
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#136 RushKing
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I don't understand how any sane person would support the Cartels, Anon are doing Mexico a great favor.

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#137 ad1x2
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I don't understand how any sane person would support the Cartels, Anon are doing Mexico a great favor.

RushKing

Certain people here don't want their supply of marijuana cut off. I think it's a disgusting reason to support the Cartels in their murders but you can't help how some people feel when it comes to the possibility of losing the main source of their habit.

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#138 LZ71
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Words can't describe how stupid this whole scenario is.
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#139 Truggly
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I do not believe in greed or murder to achieve a goal. One day the world will be a battle ground thanks to pigs feeding their trot.

What a wonderful day that will be when both innocents and the corrupt tremble in fear. We are the highest form of life n this planet, nay in this galaxy and we fall to our knees lapping our tongues at the feet of monetary gain. This is the world that we live in and it's a world of idiots and those who are too afraid to show that they have a brain out of fear of ridicule by those that have a shinier gun.

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#140 chaoscougar1
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

So you root for an organization that routinely murders police, military, US citizens, children, women and various thousands of innocents for no reason other than disaproving of them?

I hope this just convinces anonymous to push harder and expose these jerks. Besides, its not like the cartel could capture those who are smart about hiding where they do their stuff or live in freaking Canada and Australia.

SPYDER0416

Push harder? hahahaha If I were anon, I would seriously back up. You seriously underestimate the resources of a multi-billion dollar a year organisation

You really think the Cartel is going to be able to do anything to active anonymous hackers in Australia, the Ukraine, Russia, Canada, England or Hawaii?

I mean sure they could try, but I don't think angering entire governments across the world to kill a few internet hackers would be in their best interest instead of just losing a few of their own members or getting insulted online.

Honestly, I kind of hate anonymous (they are just a tad annoying and the harassing of kids is pretty iiotic), but I think people shouldn't let this stuff happen. All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

I wouldn't even care about the drug running (hey, its a living and some people want to party I guess), but murdering people just because they are against you murdering people is kind of something I'm against.

They kill people who talk bad about their organisation, Anon threatened to expose some high ranking members. I think they will want to send a message. Anon will do nothing to hurt them, they are only putting themselves and their families in danger
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#141 darkguy_101
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Jesus Christ... I live in Mexico, and you clearly have NO idea of what you are talking about...

Los Zetas are an elite latinoamerican team originally trained in The School Of The Americas on Georgia on military tactics, torture and extortion etc...

These are in Spanish; on a blog dedicated to publish these news that mainstream media are too afraid to air:

A decapitated couple and a quartered man found

http://www.milcincuenta.com/post/12309654823/macabro-hallazgo-en-pleno-centro-de-chihuahua

Executed man found

http://www.milcincuenta.com/post/12308459654/torturan-tiran-y-ejecutan-a-hombre-en-ciudad-juarez

City Mayor executed

http://www.milcincuenta.com/post/12290447542/alcalde-de-la-piedad-michoacan-es-ejecutado

Couple tortured, shot and calcined

http://www.milcincuenta.com/post/12290207371/ejecutan-y-calcinan-a-pareja-en-ciudad-juarez

Military and gunmen fight on the middle of a city on Veracruz; 2 cars and guns found along with a kidnapped man

http://www.milcincuenta.com/post/12289890818/militares-y-pistoleros-se-enfrentan-en-veracruz

5 young men executed on a traffic-heavy street

http://www.milcincuenta.com/post/12266389745/identifican-a-victimas-de-masacre-en-monterrey

These are for TODAY and YESTERDAY there are more and more veryday.

Cartels ARE in the United States;"Moreover, NDIC assesses with high confidence that Mexican DTOs in at least 143 of these U.S. cities (see Appendix A) were linked to a specific Mexican Cartel or DTO based in Mexico—the Sinaloa Cartel (at least 75 cities), the Gulf Cartel/Los Zetas (at least 37 cities), the Juárez Cartel (at least 33 cities), the Beltrán-Leyva DTO (at least 30 cities), La Familia Michoacán (at least 27 cities), or the Tijuana Cartel (at least 21 cities)." http://publicintelligence.net/mexican-drug-cartels-in-the-us/


Jesus Christ last month 49 people were killed on a Casino on Monterrey; gunmen simply entered the building, doused everything in gasoline and started a fire and left in their cars as if nothing had happened. I live on a constant fear that the next time i go out i won't come back. You can't get mad at a bad driver becasue he could just get out, load his shotgun and kill you and eveyone inside your car. It's a mess in here. A real mess that need to be cleaned up...


Sorry for my bad english but this seriously makes me mad, sad and depressed... I just can't see my country haveing a future if it continues like this, as beautiful as it is...

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#142 -Tish-
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Words can't describe how stupid this whole scenario is. LZ71
LOL it is quite silly. What a random clash of powerful groups. I mean, why the f*** would Anon want any piece of Los Zetas, especially if it puts their lives and families at risk?
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#143 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="ad1x2"]

[QUOTE="RushKing"]

I don't understand how any sane person would support the Cartels, Anon are doing Mexico a great favor.

Certain people here don't want their supply of marijuana cut off. I think it's a disgusting reason to support the Cartels in their murders but you can't help how some people feel when it comes to the possibility of losing the main source of their habit.

Right... it's all about the devil weed, never mind cocaine and guns, political instability and corruption... it's the weed. :roll:

As for Anon, they're already backing off. I can't imagine what they were thinking, not because Los Zetas are good guys (they're horrific), but because it's like a baby picking a fight with a pack of wolves.
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#144 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="LZ71"]Words can't describe how stupid this whole scenario is. -Tish-
LOL it is quite silly. What a random clash of powerful groups. I mean, why the f*** would Anon want any piece of Los Zetas, especially if it puts their lives and families at risk?

Los Zetas are powerful, Anon is a transient group of script kiddies who are probably soaking their bedding right about now.
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#145 pygmahia5
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this just got interesting..
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#146 -Tish-
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[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="LZ71"]Words can't describe how stupid this whole scenario is. Frame_Dragger
LOL it is quite silly. What a random clash of powerful groups. I mean, why the f*** would Anon want any piece of Los Zetas, especially if it puts their lives and families at risk?

Los Zetas are powerful, Anon is a transient group of script kiddies who are probably soaking their bedding right about now.

Oh yeah? Tell me something I don't know...
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#147 metallica_fan42
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That's just stupid. Going after cartels is not the smartest thing to do, regardless of how good you think you can hack these guys.
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#148 TheNewEraIcon
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Crazy stuff, Anon should've know something along these lines would happen but interesting nonetheless lol

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#149 Lethalhazard
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Any pics/vids released of the captured person? I wonder if hes been tortured already, probably D:.
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[QUOTE="Solid_Snake325"]Yeah I wouldn't really mess with the mexican drug cartel. But that's just me.SPYDER0416

I used to think the same thing, then my girlfriend Catalina screwed me over during a robbery and I ended up working with the New York Yakuza to kill her, the leader, and dozens of members and stop the spread of SPANK. Now every gang in the city hates me (especially the Mafia since I killed their leader), but eh.

True story.

GTA3? :P