Michelle bachmann.....ugh

So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..00-Riddick-00

So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..00-Riddick-00

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..00-Riddick-00

To be fair saying "I don't support gay marriage" in a thread about a politician who advocates banning gay marriage does kinda imply that you agree with that politician.

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Sorry if I'm not all that fond of thoughtless prejudice and discrimination. ;)worlock77

To be fair saying "I don't support gay marriage" in a thread about a politician who advocates banning gay marriage does kinda imply that you agree with that politician.

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]i can't see her seriously winning the nomination. just think of her antics as entertainment. mattbbpl

Well..if it comes down to those three I hope Romney wins the nomination. I don't agree with him on a lot of things but at least him being elected wouldn't absolutely terrify me. Those other two would.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..00-Riddick-00

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"] Sorry if I'm not all that fond of thoughtless prejudice and discrimination. ;)chessmaster1989

I wouldn't say that in and of itself is prejudice. To give a personal ancedote my grandmother was a very devout Christian. Had been all her life. Yet one of her friends was a gay man. And she cared deeply for him. I dare say she loved the man. I once asked her how she felt about his lifestyle she said "I know what the Bible says, I know ain't right. But that's between him and God".

So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..00-Riddick-00

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]So I come back to this thread.. Only to find myself insulted many times just because of my beliefs... That's gamespot for ya..00-Riddick-00

Are people not allowed to express different views?Stevo_the_gamer

Are people not allowed to express different views?Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Are people not allowed to express different views?Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]Are people not allowed to express different views?Stevo_the_gamer

Elaborate pleaseTeenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Elaborate pleaseStevo_the_gamer

Do you mean that the people who find her views ridiculous should be able to see her side of the argument?

Are there many parts?

Do you mean that the people who find her views ridiculous should be able to see her side of the argument?

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Are there many parts?

Do you mean that the people who find her views ridiculous should be able to see her side of the argument?

Stevo_the_gamer

Also maybe some of her views have no considerable merit.

I dont see how relativity of views can "save" any view from being called "ridiculous". Unless one goes by an absolute "everything is relative" philosophy...

Also maybe some of her views have no considerable merit.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I dont see how relativity of views can "save" any view from being called "ridiculous". Unless one goes by an absolute "everything is relative" philosophy...

Also maybe some of her views have no considerable merit.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I dont see how relativity of views can "save" any view from being called "ridiculous". Unless one goes by an absolute "everything is relative" philosophy...

Also maybe some of her views have no considerable merit.

Stevo_the_gamer

As is often the case, the devil is in the details. It's not bad that she advocates a balanced budget, but how she proposes it should be accomplished is.mattbbpl

...I didnt comment on which views of her I find ridiculous.

Teenaged

Apparently Bachmann doesn't realize that the Soviet Union ceased to exist 20 years ago.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bachmann-soviet-20110819,0,7989785.story

(Can't link for some reason, so you'll have to copy and paste the URL.)

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]...I didnt comment on which views of her I find ridiculous.

Stevo_the_gamer

Apparently Bachmann doesn't realize that the Soviet Union ceased to exist 20 years ago.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bachmann-soviet-20110819,0,7989785.story

(Can't link for some reason, so you'll have to copy and paste the URL.)

worlock77

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]As is often the case, the devil is in the details. It's not bad that she advocates a balanced budget, but how she proposes it should be accomplished is.Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]...I didnt comment on which views of her I find ridiculous.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]I am well aware of such, I was speaking generally--you did see the parenthesis, no?

Stevo_the_gamer

I said some may have no merit. I was very specific with my wording.

So bringing up an example of her views that has probably some merit doesnt add anything to the discussion.

Apparently Bachmann doesn't realize that the Soviet Union ceased to exist 20 years ago.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bachmann-soviet-20110819,0,7989785.story

(Can't link for some reason, so you'll have to copy and paste the URL.)

worlock77

I didnt say that all of her views have no merit.

I said some may have no merit. I was very specific with my wording.

So bringing up an example of her views that has probably some merit doesnt add anything to the discussion.

Teenaged

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]I didnt say that all of her views have no merit.

I said some may have no merit. I was very specific with my wording.

So bringing up an example of her views that has probably some merit doesnt add anything to the discussion.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="Person0"]It not even just her being Homophobic, she is just insane. Its pretty scary the amount of support she gets/00-Riddick-00

Agree or disagree with his views (and for the most part, I don't agree with him on many things), he's at least pretty sane, and knows what to focus on more importantly. Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, and any other Social Conservative running this election have some pretty ridiculous views, and most importantly, not worrying about the more important topic: The economy (or even worse, act like they know what they are talking about dealing with the economy).

And an example of her views possibly having merit, somehow sheds doubt on (some of) the rest of her views having no merit whatsoever?

Teenaged

Yes, it does. When you toss aside the preconceived notions, you just might find more common ground than you'd think.

Edit: Perhaps my faith in people possibly being open-minded about these sort of things is naive, and rather misplaced. Hmm.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]And an example of her views possibly having merit, somehow sheds doubt on (some of) the rest of her views having no merit whatsoever?

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Apparently Bachmann doesn't realize that the Soviet Union ceased to exist 20 years ago.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bachmann-soviet-20110819,0,7989785.story

(Can't link for some reason, so you'll have to copy and paste the URL.)

Stevo_the_gamer

*sigh*

This again? Really? Obama mispoke and admitted as such. Bachmann regularly demonstrates an ignorance of history and then when called on it likes to say "Nu-uh, I totally wasn't wrong because..." and then proceeds to make jumps in logic to justify herself.

*sigh*

This again? Really? Obama mispoke and admitted as such. Bachmann regularly demonstrates an ignorance of history and then when called on it likes to say "Nu-uh, I totally wasn't wrong because..." and then proceeds to make jumps in logic to justify herself.

worlock77

Edit: Perhaps my faith in people possibly being open-minded about these sort of things is naive, and rather misplaced. Hmm.

Stevo_the_gamer

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

*sigh*

This again? Really? Obama mispoke and admitted as such. Bachmann regularly demonstrates an ignorance of history and then when called on it likes to say "Nu-uh, I totally wasn't wrong because..." and then proceeds to make jumps in logic to justify herself.

Stevo_the_gamer

Did you actually read my post beyond the word "mispoke"?

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Edit: Perhaps my faith in people possibly being open-minded about these sort of things is naive, and rather misplaced. Hmm.

Teenaged

Did you actually read my post beyond the word "mispoke"?

worlock77

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Apparently Bachmann doesn't realize that the Soviet Union ceased to exist 20 years ago.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-bachmann-soviet-20110819,0,7989785.story

(Can't link for some reason, so you'll have to copy and paste the URL.)

worlock77

*sigh*

This again? Really? Obama mispoke and admitted as such. Bachmann regularly demonstrates an ignorance of history and then when called on it likes to say "Nu-uh, I totally wasn't wrong because..." and then proceeds to make jumps in logic to justify herself.

[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Edit: Perhaps my faith in people possibly being open-minded about these sort of things is naive, and rather misplaced. Hmm.

Stevo_the_gamer

Like I said some may think that only some of her views are ridiculous. If they thought all of her views are ridiculous no matter what, I guess we could suspect they are being stubborn but otherwise I dont see how we can say that close-mindedness is what's going on.

And the division in your country could be largely caused by the politicians themselves. Have you ever pondered that possibility?

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Did you actually read my post beyond the word "mispoke"?

Stevo_the_gamer

Case in point: When in her hometown of Waterloo, IW she claimed that it was the hometown of John Wayne as well. Well it wasn't, John Wayne never lived in Waterloo. She then tried to claim that she wasn't wrong because John Wayne's parents had lived in Waterloo. Using her logic I'm from Maine (although I've never set foot in that state) since my mom lived there as a child.

Case in point: When in her hometown of Waterloo, IW she claimed that it was the hometown of John Wayne as well. Well it wasn't, John Wayne never lived in Waterloo. She then tried to claim that she wasn't wrong because John Wayne's parents had lived in Waterloo. Using her logic I'm from Maine (although I've never set foot in that state) since my mom lived there as a child.

worlock77

What a great community; calling you racist and homophobic, and discounting your opinion, just because of your beliefs. Some of the people posting here are just as bad as Michelle Bachmann.

I don't believe gay marriage is right, but I don't have anything against gay people. And quite frankly, I don't care if a candidate supports gay marriage or not.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

Case in point: When in her hometown of Waterloo, IW she claimed that it was the hometown of John Wayne as well. Well it wasn't, John Wayne never lived in Waterloo. She then tried to claim that she wasn't wrong because John Wayne's parents had lived in Waterloo. Using her logic I'm from Maine (although I've never set foot in that state) since my mom lived there as a child.

Stevo_the_gamer

No. Had it been a simple mistake she would have simply said "oops, yeah my bad" rather than leaping through logical hoops to justify herself.