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We have freedom of religion in this country, so obviously we CAN separate politics and religion. Also, if we are following Old Testament laws, if a woman is raped, then she should marry her rapist. Should THOSE be the kind of laws in this nation?the_plan_man

Freedom of religion does not exclude the religious paritcipating in government. We very much can try to pass into law policies and the like if they are based on religion, there is nothing prohibiting this. The only thing prohibiting this is thealmost religiousattitude that we cannot let out politics be informed by religion. As I said men cannot do this, ifyou suggest they must, you suggest they ought go against their conscience. So, as long as these religiously informed views do not contradict the constitution of any given country it seems justified to tryand do something like that.Also we aren't under the old covenant and don't ask me to explain the Old testament when I don't think either of us are qualified enough to do so.

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#302 LJS9502_basic  Online
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What's cosmopolitan?metroidprime55
Citron vodka, Cointreau, lime juice, cranberry juice.....
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#303 Philokalia
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]I simply don't accept the premise homosexuals should be allowed to marryMissLibrarian

In the same way that Muslims simply don't accept the premise that females should be allowed to be educated. Righto, gotcha.

Man it feels good being right all along.

And Muslims are wrong and thank God they will never be able to. But we all reject certain premises. Some people reject the idea that catholics shouldn't be forced to go and do something that goes against their will.

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[QUOTE="metroidprime55"]What's cosmopolitan?LJS9502_basic
Citron vodka, Cointreau, lime juice, cranberry juice.....

I mean the political factor, smart ass.:x
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="metroidprime55"]What's cosmopolitan?metroidprime55
Citron vodka, Cointreau, lime juice, cranberry juice.....

I mean the political factor, smart ass.:x

:lol: But my answer was more fun.....
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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"]We have freedom of religion in this country, so obviously we CAN separate politics and religion. Also, if we are following Old Testament laws, if a woman is raped, then she should marry her rapist. Should THOSE be the kind of laws in this nation?Philokalia

Freedom of religion does not exclude the religious paritcipating in government. We very much can try to pass into law policies and the like if they are based on religion, there is nothing prohibiting this. The only thing prohibiting this is thealmost religiousattitude that we cannot let out politics be informed by religion. As I said men cannot do this, ifyou suggest they must, you suggest they ought go against their conscience. So, as long as these religiously informed views do not contradict the constitution of any given country it seems justified to tryand do something like that.Also we aren't under the old covenant and don't ask me to explain the Old testament when I don't think either of us are qualified enough to do so.

So, as you said if we currently live under the "New Covenant" as instructed, laws and teachings against homosexuality are not essential to one's salvation. Jesus mainly taught us to love our neighbor as ourself, and if two consenting homosexual adults are doing just that, I say have at it.
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So, as you said if we currently live under the "New Covenant" as instructed, laws and teachings against homosexuality are not essential to one's salvation. Jesus mainly taught us to love our neighbor as ourself, and if two consenting homosexual adults are doing just that, I say have at it.the_plan_man

The new covenant forbids homosexuality.Love was central to Christ, but so were alot of things.

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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"]We have freedom of religion in this country, so obviously we CAN separate politics and religion. Also, if we are following Old Testament laws, if a woman is raped, then she should marry her rapist. Should THOSE be the kind of laws in this nation?the_plan_man

Freedom of religion does not exclude the religious paritcipating in government. We very much can try to pass into law policies and the like if they are based on religion, there is nothing prohibiting this. The only thing prohibiting this is thealmost religiousattitude that we cannot let out politics be informed by religion. As I said men cannot do this, ifyou suggest they must, you suggest they ought go against their conscience. So, as long as these religiously informed views do not contradict the constitution of any given country it seems justified to tryand do something like that.Also we aren't under the old covenant and don't ask me to explain the Old testament when I don't think either of us are qualified enough to do so.

So, as you said if we currently live under the "New Covenant" as instructed, laws and teachings against homosexuality are not essential to one's salvation. Jesus mainly taught us to love our neighbor as ourself, and if two consenting homosexual adults are doing just that, I say have at it.

This is one of the more controversial topics in OT. And not one that will be changed by arguing.
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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"] So, as you said if we currently live under the "New Covenant" as instructed, laws and teachings against homosexuality are not essential to one's salvation. Jesus mainly taught us to love our neighbor as ourself, and if two consenting homosexual adults are doing just that, I say have at it.Philokalia

The new covenant forbids homosexuality.Love was central to Christ, but so were alot of things.

Jesus only upheld the 10 Commandments from the Old Testament, and didn't instruct us to follow all of the Old Testament laws, as those are part of the "Old Covenant." If you've read the book "The Year of Living Biblically," in which a man tries to follow EVERY commandment of the Bible, New and Old Testament, it is completely absurd (i.e. not shaving, bathing after sex, ect.) He also preached that we all fall short of God's will, and that is why Jesus died for our sins.
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"] So, as you said if we currently live under the "New Covenant" as instructed, laws and teachings against homosexuality are not essential to one's salvation. Jesus mainly taught us to love our neighbor as ourself, and if two consenting homosexual adults are doing just that, I say have at it.the_plan_man

The new covenant forbids homosexuality.Love was central to Christ, but so were alot of things.

Jesus only upheld the 10 Commandments from the Old Testament, and didn't instruct us to follow all of the Old Testament laws, as those are part of the "Old Covenant." If you've read the book "The Year of Living Biblically," in which a man tries to follow EVERY commandment of the Bible, New and Old Testament, it is completely absurd (i.e. not shaving, bathing after sex, ect.) He also preached that we all fall short of God's will, and that is why Jesus died for our sins.

Not sure I'd use some random dude's opinion.......
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

[QUOTE="the_plan_man"] So, as you said if we currently live under the "New Covenant" as instructed, laws and teachings against homosexuality are not essential to one's salvation. Jesus mainly taught us to love our neighbor as ourself, and if two consenting homosexual adults are doing just that, I say have at it.the_plan_man

The new covenant forbids homosexuality.Love was central to Christ, but so were alot of things.

Jesus only upheld the 10 Commandments from the Old Testament, and didn't instruct us to follow all of the Old Testament laws, as those are part of the "Old Covenant." If you've read the book "The Year of Living Biblically," in which a man tries to follow EVERY commandment of the Bible, New and Old Testament, it is completely absurd (i.e. not shaving, bathing after sex, ect.) He also preached that we all fall short of God's will, and that is why Jesus died for our sins.

I don't tend to trust comedians when it comes to talking about religion. Thats just me. Interesting that he had a beard though, because this isone of the few things I can speak about in the Old testament.That isthose who were only forced to have beards were the priests of a specific tribe. And I doubt he belongs to that tribe since they have long but been extinct. Now Christ did not only speak of the 10 commandments, he spoke on many subjects and indeed we don't have most of what he most likely said. But heres what we do know, shortly before Christ departed he left in charge of the church the apostles whom he had tuaght many things and part of their teaching (which is related by Paul) is that homosexuality was indeed wrong and was a form of adultery. Christianity does not only come from the words of Christ (though all things Christian have their roots in his teachings) but also the words of the apostles Christ so trusted. This is why Paul tells us to listen to the tradition either written in order or by mouth.

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[QUOTE="the_plan_man"][QUOTE="Philokalia"]

The new covenant forbids homosexuality.Love was central to Christ, but so were alot of things.

Philokalia

Jesus only upheld the 10 Commandments from the Old Testament, and didn't instruct us to follow all of the Old Testament laws, as those are part of the "Old Covenant." If you've read the book "The Year of Living Biblically," in which a man tries to follow EVERY commandment of the Bible, New and Old Testament, it is completely absurd (i.e. not shaving, bathing after sex, ect.) He also preached that we all fall short of God's will, and that is why Jesus died for our sins.

I don't tend to trust comedians when it comes to talking about religion. Thats just me. Interesting that he had a beard though, because this isone of the few things I can speak about in the Old testament.That isthose who were only forced to have beards were the priests of a specific tribe. And I doubt he belongs to that tribe since they have long but been extinct. Now Christ did not only speak of the 10 commandments, he spoke on many subjects and indeed we don't have most of what he most likely said. But heres what we do know, shortly before Christ departed he left in charge of the church the apostles whom he had tuaght many things and part of their teaching (which is related by Paul) is that homosexuality was indeed wrong and was a form of adultery. Christianity does not only come from the words of Christ (though all things Christian have their roots in his teachings) but also the words of the apostles Christ so trusted. This is why Paul tells us to listen to the tradition either written in order or by mouth.

Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say any of those things. In fact, I'd read this: http://www.westarinstitute.org/Periodicals/4R_Articles/homosexuality.html and see what the New Testament has to say about homosexuality: nada. There are passages which allude to it, but only directly speak of gay prostitutes and the sort, not homosexuality in general.
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I'm still waiting on a catachetic citation from Philokalia.

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So I'm a neoliberal democrat. How interesting.

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#315 Philokalia
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Nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say any of those things. In fact, I'd read this: http://www.westarinstitute.org/Periodicals/4R_Articles/homosexuality.html and see what the New Testament has to say about homosexuality: nada. There are passages which allude to it, but only directly speak of gay prostitutes and the sort, not homosexuality in general.the_plan_man

Alright I will demonstrate apostolic succession and authority to the apostles so that we may fully trust in the apostles and what they had to say about it. It seems most evident that Christ's words are not all within the new testament that much must be made clear first and foremost.

John 21:24 This is that disciple who gives testimony of these things and has written these things: and we know that his testimony is true. 25 But there are also many other things which Jesus did which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written.

Luke 1:1 The former treatise I made, O Theophilus, of all things which Jesus began to do and to teach, 2 until the day on which, giving commandments by the Holy Ghost to the apostles whom he had chosen, he was taken up — 3 to whom also he showed himself alive after his passion, by many proofs, for forty days appearing to them, and speaking of the kingdom of God.

So not everything that Jesus said is recorded in the gospels first and foremost. Now what must we conclude from this? Lets look at some of Christ's words which indicate an authority on the apostles.

Mathew 18:17 And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to you as the heathen and publican. 18 Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.

The Apostles were given authority by Jesus Christ to bind on heaven and on earth, which amounted to forgiving sins. So now that the authority ofthe apostles has been established there is one more bit of evidence.

Mathew28:19 Going therefore, teach all nations: baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.

Here Jesus basically commissions the apostles here to baptise in the name of the father and the son and the Holy Ghost, showing them they had authority to do as much. They were the leaders of the church because they had been taught extensively by Christ many things three years concerning nature of things, of Christ, of Morality and many other things. Thus their writings, the writings of Paul whom was grafted into the apostles are authoritiative for the Christian and are based on the teachings of Christ. Even if Christ does not explicitely mention it. We might also put this in conjunction with the promise of the Holy Spirit in John 14, that Christ promises the apostles that when he leaves they will receive it, this also indicates a level of authority on the apostles, that the holy spirit would guide them and allow them to teach correctly concerning many things. Thus it is authentic apostolic tradition homosexuality is to be condemned. But we might look to Christ's own words when he speaks about marriage.

Mather 19:4-6 "Have you not read that at the beginning the Creator "made them male and female," and said, "For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh"? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore, what God has joined together, let no one separate."

Regardless on whether or not evolution is true, Jesus Christ is drawing attention to Marriage here describing the way things were originally intended by God. That men and women were created together so that polygamy is not true marriage (though it was permitted in the Old testament). This I believe also extends to Homosexuality. We can't imagine Christ's culture being like the greeks who openly acccepted homosexuality. He was a first century Jew and thus lived in that context which never recognised any validity or really the existance of Homosexual marriage and Homosexuality in of itself was rightly condemned by those jews. Thus we must understand Christ in that context and not try to put our own biases and persumptions on him, or else we could arrive at any Christ we so desired.

Now coolbeans, I don't believe I really have to defend your church's teachings. But regardless would you really say that you are justified as a catholic in supporiting homosexuality? I seriously want to know. As a Catholic who believes in the bible which condemns homosexuality as well as the fathers and the authority of your Bishops and Priests that also condemn it, do you accept homosexuality? If so It seems my point is made clear.

Further more I will add that homosexuality period seems to have been forbidden within the New testament.

Romans 1:26-27: [26] For this reason God gave them over to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged the natural sexual relations for unnatural ones, [27] and likewise the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed in their passions for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

Paul is speaking of homosexuality universally. He contrasts the union of a man and man which he thinks is unnatural to that of the natural relations with a woman. Here we get the clear picture st paul is saying homosexuality is unnatural, whereas between a man and a woman it is natural. This is why St Paul speaks of marriage exclusively in terms between a man and a woman, never of two genders of the same sex. Remember we cannot interpret our own modern lifestyle onto that of 1st century jews. Now the word natural here is to be defined in the use of what ought to be. that is what is of God is natural and what is not of God is unnatural. It is not the modern definitions which we have now. Attempts to make the New testament seem like it doesn't condemn homosexuality ultimately fail in light of its brilliant affirmation of true marriage, and when St Paul specifically condemns these practices.

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How about we forget about what The Bearded Man In The Sky says and realize that one man having sex with another consensually is not morally reprehensible. Oh, that's right. Religion.
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#317 foxhound_fox
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You are a cosmopolitan Social Democrat. 15 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 30 percent are more extremist than you.   I really like this test. Way less libertarian-centric than that other one.
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I'm a social democratic cosmopolitan according to that test.

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#320 SirWander
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"You area cosmopolitan Social Democrat. 15 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 58 percent are more extremist than you."

edit: I thought I would be more secular.

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#321 MathMattS
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I'm a conservative but moderate Republican.

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#322 kuraimen
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You are a National Democratic Socialist. 3 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 19 percent are more extremist than you. :P

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Liberal Cosmopolitan

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]Actually wait, I wouldn't mind watching it.D3nnyCrane
We're open minded people. /me turns to audience UNLIKE SOME OTHERS IN THIS THREAD

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#326 Tykain
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You are a Social Democrat. 12 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 54 percent are more extremist than you.
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#327 Teenaged
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I'm still waiting on a catachetic citation from Philokalia.

coolbeans90

A think it's someone familiar we're dealing with.

It isnt Lansdowne imo because he could easily lose his focus and resort to bad sarcasm.

It isnt blackregiment1 either because he was far more dogmatic.

So, the only other option is Crushmaster.

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#328 MissLibrarian
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[QUOTE="MissLibrarian"]

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]I simply don't accept the premise homosexuals should be allowed to marryPhilokalia

In the same way that Muslims simply don't accept the premise that females should be allowed to be educated. Righto, gotcha.

Man it feels good being right all along.

And Muslims are wrong and thank God they will never be able to. But we all reject certain premises. Some people reject the idea that catholics shouldn't be forced to go and do something that goes against their will.

But usually such premises are based on sociomoral reasoning. Not because some fictional higher being 'told us so'. Thus why avid Christians like yourself and avid Muslims are in the exact same boat. You have done nothing with this theory of mine except confirm it several times.
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I'm a Patriotic and Authoritarian Socialist. Not me at all.

I never get any of these tests. Whilst I think it got it right on the fundamentalist, reactionary, and anthropocentric levels, the others were wrong.

I am way mroe nationalistic then what the results suggest. I believe the nation-state should come first and am against globalisation in areas that are of strategic importance (i.e. agriculture and certain manufacturing). I believe I should also be more authoritarian, as I believe the general public is stupid and more control is needed to ensure a stable society. I also am one of the strongest pacifists around. I only believe in using military action as a last resort to protect my nation and to prevent great crimes (i.e. genocide).

More of all, though, is that I am notcommunist. I am anti-comunist. I am for an efficient system, which is why I am against communism. I am also, however, not for capitalism. I'm for a society where every market has a sustainable level of competition, from both the private and public sectors, that promotes innovation and increased value for society. I am utterly against both capitalism and communism that promotes anything other than an environment that encourages competition in every industry. The only things governments should monopolise are infrustructure (i.e. roads, rail lines, airports [where there is only one in a geographical location], power lines, etc).

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#330 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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100% batsh!t crazy.

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#331 markop2003
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You area democratic National Liberal. 3 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 38 percent are more extremist than you.

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I'm still waiting on a catachetic citation from Philokalia.

Teenaged

A think it's someone familiar we're dealing with.

It isnt Lansdowne imo because he could easily lose his focus and resort to bad sarcasm.

It isnt blackregiment1 either because he was far more dogmatic.

So, the only other option is Crushmaster.

He's Orthodox. Those guys weren't.....so give up your detective badge.
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#334 DraugenCP
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Guess I should sign up for the national bolshevist party.

"You are a National Democratic Socialist. 3 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 14 percent are more extremist than you."


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#335 Commander-Gree
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 Holy Communist Gamespot, Batman. And 71% are more extremist than me. No surprises there.
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#336 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I'm still waiting on a catachetic citation from Philokalia.

Teenaged

A think it's someone familiar we're dealing with.

It isnt Lansdowne imo because he could easily lose his focus and resort to bad sarcasm.

It isnt blackregiment1 either because he was far more dogmatic.

So, the only other option is Crushmaster.

Crushmaster was a lot younger. I don't think it's a BBU/CWU remnant tbh.
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#337 foxhound_fox
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*post*daqua_99
You should take the test again and read the questions more. If you don't think it represents your political positions, you likely didn't answer them accurately enough, or weighted them differently. And socialist =/= communist. I think a lot of your problems is thinking in two dimensions, a "slide rule" between "left" and "right." Rather than three dimensions like this test evaluates a person's positions.
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#338 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I'm still waiting on a catachetic citation from Philokalia.

MrPraline

A think it's someone familiar we're dealing with.

It isnt Lansdowne imo because he could easily lose his focus and resort to bad sarcasm.

It isnt blackregiment1 either because he was far more dogmatic.

So, the only other option is Crushmaster.

Crushmaster was a lot younger. I don't think it's a BBU/CWU remnant tbh.

Wow, I wrote "a think". >__>

Anyway he sounds very familiar imo. And I dont know how old this guy is or says he is either.

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#339 StRaItJaCkEt36
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I am flexible.
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#340 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="daqua_99"]*post*foxhound_fox
You should take the test again and read the questions more. If you don't think it represents your political positions, you likely didn't answer them accurately enough, or weighted them differently. And socialist =/= communist. I think a lot of your problems is thinking in two dimensions, a "slide rule" between "left" and "right." Rather than three dimensions like this test evaluates a person's positions.

That's my main issue with American politics; the very myopic world view. Life isn't black and white, guys.
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#341 Philokalia
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But usually such premises are based on sociomoral reasoning. Not because some fictional higher being 'told us so'. Thus why avid Christians like yourself and avid Muslims are in the exact same boat. You have done nothing with this theory of mine except confirm it several times. MissLibrarian

I have my reasons for believing God which are philosophical and historical, so don't act as if I've got no reason, thats arrogant. Now we cannot determine morals from society alone, otherwise the nazis were completely justified in killings jews. After all it was just their society.

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#342 ganon92
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I am independent. I don't need a test to know my political ideology. I don't have time to complete the test now, but will when I do. I don't affiliate myself with any party, I know that for a ******* fact.Hemmaroids
"Independent" isn't an ideology, that's just saying you don't affiliate with any political party. The test determines what your ideology is, not what party you should belong to.
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#343 MrPraline
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I have my reasons for believing God which are philosophicalPhilokalia
I hope they aren't too Aquinas.
Now we cannot determine morals from society alonePhilokalia
Most of the laws in the Old Testament were just the rules of society at that time, though.
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#344 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]A think it's someone familiar we're dealing with.

It isnt Lansdowne imo because he could easily lose his focus and resort to bad sarcasm.

It isnt blackregiment1 either because he was far more dogmatic.

So, the only other option is Crushmaster.

Teenaged

Crushmaster was a lot younger. I don't think it's a BBU/CWU remnant tbh.

Wow, I wrote "a think". >__>

Anyway he sounds very familiar imo. And I dont know how old this guy is or says he is either.

Haha, read over that completely. And neither do I, but he doesn't sound as "young". Then again, last time I spoke to Crush was like 3 years ago.
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#345 Philokalia
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[QUOTE="Philokalia"]I have my reasons for believing God which are philosophicalMrPraline
I hope they aren't too Aquinas.
Now we cannot determine morals from society alonePhilokalia
Most of the laws in the Old Testament were just the rules of society at that time, though.

They are more in line with Alvin Plantinga, Richard swinburne and William lane Craig.Though I do have a great appreciation and love for Aquinas and would like to read his works some day.

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#346 MissLibrarian
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Now we cannot determine morals from society alonePhilokalia
Yes we can.
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#347 Teenaged
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They are more in line with Alvin Plantinga, Richard swinburne and William lane Craig.Though I do have a great appreciation and love for Aquinas and would like to read his works some day.

Philokalia

Oh bummer, you need to mention two more names to become credible.

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#348 Matthew-first
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#349 Pikdum
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You are a National Liberal Democrat. 2 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 68 percent are more extremist than you.

Not exactly the numbers I expected but seems fair. I still consider my self independant.

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#350 keybladegamer
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You are a cosmopolitan Social Democrat . 15 percent of the test participators are in the same category and 25 percent are more extremist than you.