more guns=less crime?

does anyone agree with this? i personally think if every smart person can legally own a gun, less crime would happen becasue of armed opposition.

That sounds incredibly Republican.

And that's all I will say, and you can let that mean whatever you want it to.

That sounds incredibly Republican.

And that's all I will say, and you can let that mean whatever you want it to.

SPYDER0416

Go to compton and find out.

Its all about the people tho, in india everyone has a shotty in thier house but its peaceful as can be

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

That sounds incredibly Republican.

And that's all I will say, and you can let that mean whatever you want it to.

bloomberg23

You can't really differentiate between a "smart" vs a "dumb" person if everybody has guns. What are you going to give, an aptitude test? More guns would also= more minor conflicts that result in a lethal outcome. Also there will be significantly more accidental shootings. I am not in favor of this logic.

[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]

That sounds incredibly Republican.

And that's all I will say, and you can let that mean whatever you want it to.

bloomberg23

More guns != less crime and it does not equal more crime.

Just equals different crime.

Can't force people to have guns. ;pKiIIyou

america could be like britain, hardly any gun crime at all. japan seems to have a lot of crime even though there is strict gun laws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g

It works in other countries apparently.

I kinda agree with Penn and Teller and their view on their show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoIKlO20RqM

Most criminals who do things like home invasions in states with lax gun laws will tell you it's not the police they fear but the armed home owner.

More gun = able to stop psycho on rampage. But, the problem is, you cannot carry gun to public, only psycho can. And when they don't sell gun to you, psycho has their own black market to get it. Eitherway, you are end up getting shot without a side arm of your own.magicalclick

america could be like britain, hardly any gun crime at all. japan seems to have a lot of crime even though there is strict gun laws

bloomberg23

Japan has one of the lowest homicide rates IN THE WORLD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g

It works in other countries apparently.

KamuiFei

[QUOTE="bloomberg23"]

america could be like britain, hardly any gun crime at all. japan seems to have a lot of crime even though there is strict gun laws

Chargeagles1

Japan has one of the lowest homicide rates IN THE WORLD.

More gun = able to stop psycho on rampage. But, the problem is, you cannot carry gun to public, only psycho can. And when they don't sell gun to you, psycho has their own black market to get it. Eitherway, you are end up getting shot without a side arm of your own.magicalclick

Some states allow concealed carry or even open carry permits.

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[QUOTE="bloomberg23"]

america could be like britain, hardly any gun crime at all. japan seems to have a lot of crime even though there is strict gun laws

bloomberg23

Japan has one of the lowest homicide rates IN THE WORLD.

I'd like to know where you got that info. Japan's crime rate is fairly low in comparison for a 1st world country.

[QUOTE="KamuiFei"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nf1OgV449g

It works in other countries apparently.

Victorious_Fize

I think you missed the point, lol.

If more people are encouraged to own and properly handle a weapon, there would be less crime. Would you rob someone openly, knowingly they had a weapon on them, AND they knew how to use it? Of course not.

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[QUOTE="Chargeagles1"]

Japan has one of the lowest homicide rates IN THE WORLD.

XaosII

I'd like to know where you got that info. Japan's crime rate is fairly low in comparison for a 1st world country.

america could be like britain, hardly any gun crime at all. japan seems to have a lot of [sex] crime even though there is strict gun laws

bloomberg23

seems like i need to clarify again. more like sex crimes and battery. girls have been sexually assulted and raped in japan

bloomberg23

I really don't see how sexual assault and domestic violence relates to gun control though.

[QUOTE="bloomberg23"]

america could be like britain, hardly any gun crime at all. japan seems to have a lot of [sex] crime even though there is strict gun laws

XaosII

seems like i need to clarify again. more like sex crimes and battery. girls have been sexually assulted and raped in japan

bloomberg23

I really don't see how sexual assault and domestic violence relates to gun control though.

more guns = more deathscheese_game619

Vermont has one of the most lax gun laws in the US. It allows anyone who has not been explicitly told so, that they can own and carry a fire arm without a permit.

Vermont is also routinely the 49th or 50th lowest crime state per capita (depending the on the year of the statistic). Is that *because* of gun control laws? I have no idea, but you logic doesn't really follow.

Legal guns are a necessary evil considering all of the criminals who already have guns obtained illegally. I wonder how many people out there who are for repealing the Second Amendment are also for the legalization of drugs.

Whoever figures out why I'm comparing the two gets a cookie.

[QUOTE="cheese_game619"]more guns = more deathsXaosII

Vermont has one of the most lax gun laws in the US. It allows anyone who has not been explicitly told so, that they can own and carry a fire arm without a permit.

Vermont is also routinely the 49th or 50th lowest crime state per capita (depending the on the year of the statistic). Is that *because* of gun control laws? I have no idea, but you logic doesn't really follow.

yes in that one example that you chose my logic doesnt followcheese_game619

Provide a counter point. Hopefully, with some data to backup your claim.

[QUOTE="cheese_game619"]yes in that one example that you chose my logic doesnt followXaosII

Provide a counter point. Hopefully, with some data to backup your claim.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]Actually most data contradicts this claim. Go watch Bowling for Columbine.magicalclick

EDIT: Vermont's an odd state, by far the most liberterian/gun loving state in America. Whether or not guns or higher median income dictate lower crime rates I cannot say.

I own a gun. That's awesome because our state also has a stand your ground law. I think more guns do equal less violence. You wouldn't try and shoot a guy if there was a law requiring everybody had to have a gun on them, by law.

I somewhat agree that only the educated should be allowed gun ownership, but that doesn't mean that smart people are always innocent. I WOULD suggest some type of moral examination, but then again, even a lesser intelligent person knows right from wrong in a universal sense, whether or not they practice it themselves. Bubbling in the correct answer doesn't gaurantee innocence in practice.

Maybe restrict the use of guns to those with a need for them or physical disadvantage? Like single women or families with young children? Of course, the crime statistics of the area should also be considered. Would they use the weapons tyraniously? Sure, it's always possible. Could the weapons be stolen from them? Certainly. Could they use the weapons inefficiently? Not if they're required to take take arms education/training.

Could the number of home invasions/rapes/assaults on women and families be drastically decreased? I think so.

I don't think the two are closely related.

criminals will be criminals