Muslims show no respect for other religions and cry when others follow suit!

I want to show everyone here an example of how indifferent Muslims are to the "feelings" of other religious people and yet when someone does something offensive to them, they will go all butt-hurt.

In Pakistan a country with 150 million Muslims, cows are publicly slaughtered on the Eid-Ul-Azha. Take a look here.

Now people are going to cringe when I will tell you that the cow slaughter is entertainment for people here and is one of the highlights of eid. Often children will also assist in the butcher as you saw in the video.

Now even if we somehow ignore how pathetic it is to display this as entertainment it so happens that the cow is a very holy animal in Hinduism which accounts for as much as a billion people around the world. In India there have been several deaths over these issues, Hindus don't want cow slaughter and Muslims don't want to be stripped of their right to do so. Currently in India it's not allowed anymore I think to publicly slaughter cows like this.

Now my question is, ok muslims shouldnt stop eating beef just because it offends hindus but why cant they atleast stop publicly buthering them?? Oh wait pakistan is a muslim dominated country, the muslims dont need to be politically correct here and can show their true self.:roll:

Imagine if a religion comes which has a yearly ritual of burning the Koran? All hell would break lose and jihad will be declared against that religion lol.

And before you say "nice generalising blah blah" there is not even a single person here who speaks against the public slaughter of the cow. And when something is said against Islam, a pretty significant no. of these people would be in favour of killing those who blasphemy. Those who are hating Islam these days aren't just stereotyping because of a few rotten apples, there is something wrong with a very significant population of the Muslim world.

A month or 2 ago, about a dozen Christians were burned alive becuase they had said something insulting about the Koran. There is a law here that anyone who blasphemies against Islam and the prophet will be given the death penalty,:lol: some people just decided to take matters in their own hand instead of delaying the inevitable.

And guess what? Most educated people I have talked to support this law.:|:|

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

No. What you're missing is that most people are hypocrites or hypocritical on occasion. Not most Muslims.

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

SgtKevali

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

I want to show everyone here an example of how indifferent Muslims are to the "feelings" of other religious people and yet when someone does something offensive to them, they will go all butt-hurt.Gambler_3

Um what muslims have you met? because 99% of the muslims i met shows respec for every religion :|

And this all took place in the US?!

All of the muslims I've ever met show respect for everyone else's beliefs.XilePrincess

All of the muslims I've ever met show respect for everyone else's beliefs.XilePrincess

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

Gambler_3

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

You're taking muslims from completely different cultural backgrounds and part of the world than from western countries.

Perhaps it isn't the religion thats the problem but the turmoil of those countries?

Food for thought.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

Gambler_3

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

The thing you're missing is is that most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.

Um what muslims have you met? because 99% of the muslims i met shows respec for every religion :|

realistic44

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?Pixel-Pirate

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

You're taking muslims from completely different cultural backgrounds and part of the world than from western countries.

Perhaps it isn't the religion thats the problem but the turmoil of those countries?

Food for thought.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

Pixel-Pirate

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

You're taking muslims from completely different cultural backgrounds and part of the world than from western countries.

Perhaps it isn't the religion thats the problem but the turmoil of those countries?

Food for thought.

Guys, can we please stop going by anecdotal evidence? It's no better than generalising.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Yes ofcourse I generalised but on fairly strong grounds. I dont need to meet every muslims out there.

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

Gambler_3

You're taking muslims from completely different cultural backgrounds and part of the world than from western countries.

Perhaps it isn't the religion thats the problem but the turmoil of those countries?

Food for thought.

Become more respectful over there? I guess I just became more respectful because i wanna play it safe? :lol:

This

Guys, can we please stop going by anecdotal evidence? It's no better than generalising.

Hexagon_777

and

The gist that I got is that it doesn't matter where a Muslim is from, for they are always a Muslim first and foremost. Every Muslim tells me this. Nationality is second to Islam.

Hexagon_777

don't fit together.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Yes ofcourse I generalised but on fairly strong grounds. I dont need to meet every muslims out there.

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

Gambler_3

You're taking muslims from completely different cultural backgrounds and part of the world than from western countries.

Perhaps it isn't the religion thats the problem but the turmoil of those countries?

Food for thought.

In the US, plenty of Muslims are NOT from that background. They were born in the US.

My outlook for this thread: Not good.Jazz_Fan

This

[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]

Guys, can we please stop going by anecdotal evidence? It's no better than generalising.

SgtKevali

and

The gist that I got is that it doesn't matter where a Muslim is from, for they are always a Muslim first and foremost. Every Muslim tells me this. Nationality is second to Islam.

Hexagon_777

don't fit together.

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

SgtKevali

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

The thing you're missing is is that most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.

you're headed in the wrong direction

but don't worry, most of us are

so you'll never be alone

Are the Butchers in meat shops also slaughtering cows to spit in Religion's face?

:?

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]Yes ofcourse I generalised but on fairly strong grounds. I dont need to meet every muslims out there.

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

surrealnumber5

The thing you're missing is is that most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.

That's not what I said.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

The thing you're missing is is that most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.

SgtKevali

That's not what I said.

your words muslims are not like people

sentence2 "it's a human thing, not a muslim thing"

once again muslims are not like humans

in two sentences you stated that muslims are not like humans or people

Hey, TC, ever eaten a Big Mac or a nice, juicy porterhouse steak? Wow, you're disrespecting Hindus!!!! How do you think we get our nice American beef? We slaughter a cow. Whether it's public or private, a cow got slaughtered to put beef on your dinner table. So, TC, what's your point?

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

Gambler_3

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

Every Muslim I've ever met has been entirely respectful towards me. Same thing cannot be said about Christians, oddly enough.

As long as the muslims aren't walking up to the hindus with a cow and slitting its throat...

Religions disagree - always have, and probably always will. As long as everyone shows a bit of tolerance and tries not to bait the other group, life runs smoothly.

I hope no one is going to be offended by the ham sandwich I'm having for lunch...

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

You're taking muslims from completely different cultural backgrounds and part of the world than from western countries.

Perhaps it isn't the religion thats the problem but the turmoil of those countries?

Food for thought.

Pixel-Pirate

In the US, plenty of Muslims are NOT from that background. They were born in the US.

this thread fails in so many ways

Interesting to see how this anti-Islam campaign by the conservative right effects their sheep in the OT babble arena. You gonna be celebrating the 9/11 Quran Book Burning even too? I've lived with Muslims before and they've shown nothing but respect to me and my roommates, well educated, one served in the US military and he was from Morocco originally. But because of the fundamentalists you want to condemn an entire religion, that's just wrong. Fundamentalism is born from the weak, in case you haven't realized much of the Islamic world isn't as developed as West which is mostly Christian. It isn't Islam that's creating fundamentalists it's the isolation and fear they live in that drives them toward madmen and who rule by fear. Being how our own economy is going to crap we're just as susceptible to the same anti-intellectual incendiary ideology and you can see it pretty much every day in the political arena. And I'm not sure why everyone is protesting Islamic centers popping up around the US, some have pointed out how this can be a good thing by allowing Muslims to be world leaders in their religion by creating more progressive idealism in their religion. It also prevents their isolation and reliance on fewer authoritative figures in their communities by having more various institutions to be involved in. They can provide more community services and work in coordination across faith lines. People need to get over their irrational fears these will only serve as terrorist training centers. All the anti-Islamic hate speech of the American conservatives to condemn the religion and isolate them will only serve as a self fulfilling prophecy when it leads to violence because of their incendiary approach they take toward Islam.lamprey263

you're acting like fundamentalism is bad, if you aint a fundamental muslim you cant even call yourself a good muslim. islam is a fundamental religion. this is probably hard to understand in the west though

[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Nice generalizing blah blah. I'm sure you've met every single Muslim out there, huh?

What's your point, anyway? That all Muslims are hypocrites?

xDB9x

My point was never about "all" muslims, never did I say that, you are just trying too hard dude.

The buthers are not killing cows for fun, they are not making a mockery and public display of their torture. This ritual of cow slaughering is serving two purposes, entertainment and food. Ask a muslim, would they rather have someone burn the quran in their house or on the streets?:roll:

Do you know millions of people have died in hindu-muslim conflicts? This cow issue is not the only one but a major one!

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]Interesting to see how this anti-Islam campaign by the conservative right effects their sheep in the OT babble arena. You gonna be celebrating the 9/11 Quran Book Burning even too? I've lived with Muslims before and they've shown nothing but respect to me and my roommates, well educated, one served in the US military and he was from Morocco originally. But because of the fundamentalists you want to condemn an entire religion, that's just wrong. Fundamentalism is born from the weak, in case you haven't realized much of the Islamic world isn't as developed as West which is mostly Christian. It isn't Islam that's creating fundamentalists it's the isolation and fear they live in that drives them toward madmen and who rule by fear. Being how our own economy is going to crap we're just as susceptible to the same anti-intellectual incendiary ideology and you can see it pretty much every day in the political arena. And I'm not sure why everyone is protesting Islamic centers popping up around the US, some have pointed out how this can be a good thing by allowing Muslims to be world leaders in their religion by creating more progressive idealism in their religion. It also prevents their isolation and reliance on fewer authoritative figures in their communities by having more various institutions to be involved in. They can provide more community services and work in coordination across faith lines. People need to get over their irrational fears these will only serve as terrorist training centers. All the anti-Islamic hate speech of the American conservatives to condemn the religion and isolate them will only serve as a self fulfilling prophecy when it leads to violence because of their incendiary approach they take toward Islam.sikanderahmed

you're acting like fundamentalism is bad, if you aint a fundamental muslim you cant even call yourself a good muslim. islam is a fundamental religion. this is probably hard to understand in the west though

Erm, that is not slaughtering for entertainment purposes. The meat is eaten, just like it would be in any western restaurant, and a significant part of the meat is distributed among the poor.

Erm, that is not slaughtering for entertainment purposes. The meat is eaten, just like it would be in any western restaurant, and a significant part of the meat is distributed among the poor.

dramaybaz

[QUOTE="dramaybaz"]

Erm, that is not slaughtering for entertainment purposes. The meat is eaten, just like it would be in any western restaurant, and a significant part of the meat is distributed among the poor.

Gambler_3

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]Interesting to see how this anti-Islam campaign by the conservative right effects their sheep in the OT babble arena. You gonna be celebrating the 9/11 Quran Book Burning even too? I've lived with Muslims before and they've shown nothing but respect to me and my roommates, well educated, one served in the US military and he was from Morocco originally. But because of the fundamentalists you want to condemn an entire religion, that's just wrong. Fundamentalism is born from the weak, in case you haven't realized much of the Islamic world isn't as developed as West which is mostly Christian. It isn't Islam that's creating fundamentalists it's the isolation and fear they live in that drives them toward madmen and who rule by fear. Being how our own economy is going to crap we're just as susceptible to the same anti-intellectual incendiary ideology and you can see it pretty much every day in the political arena. And I'm not sure why everyone is protesting Islamic centers popping up around the US, some have pointed out how this can be a good thing by allowing Muslims to be world leaders in their religion by creating more progressive idealism in their religion. It also prevents their isolation and reliance on fewer authoritative figures in their communities by having more various institutions to be involved in. They can provide more community services and work in coordination across faith lines. People need to get over their irrational fears these will only serve as terrorist training centers. All the anti-Islamic hate speech of the American conservatives to condemn the religion and isolate them will only serve as a self fulfilling prophecy when it leads to violence because of their incendiary approach they take toward Islam.Gambler_3

you're acting like fundamentalism is bad, if you aint a fundamental muslim you cant even call yourself a good muslim. islam is a fundamental religion. this is probably hard to understand in the west though

im living in the west and yes majority of muslims have this mentality which is a good thing and i really dont know what you're problem is with fundamentalism....but considering you're an atheist you likely have a problem with islam no matter what so its not worth discussing anything with you as theres no point...ya know haters gonna hate