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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] so muslims are not human? man that has to be against the ToU in some way.surrealnumber5
That's not what I said.
sentence1 "people are dishonest or hypocritical" "not muslims"your words muslims are not like people
sentence2 "it's a human thing, not a muslim thing"
once again muslims are not like humans
in two sentences you stated that muslims are not like humans or people
I'm saying that hypocrisy/dishonesty is not a trait specific to Muslims.
Erm have you actually been to pakistan on eid day? People eagerly await cow and camel slaughters just to get the lulz. When I was a kid I used to get the lulz out of the slaughther as well. If you havent actually seen public slaughters then please dont act like you really know what you are talking about. Erm, yes I have. And I doubt most are there to get the "lulz" from seeing something die. The happiness and excitement surrounds the tradition of the festival and practise.[QUOTE="dramaybaz"]
Erm, that is not slaughtering for entertainment purposes. The meat is eaten, just like it would be in any western restaurant, and a significant part of the meat is distributed among the poor.
Gambler_3
Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!Skullsoldi3rNot eating for 30 years? I can't say I believe that is possible....
sentence1 "people are dishonest or hypocritical" "not muslims"[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]
[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
That's not what I said.
SgtKevali
your words muslims are not like people
sentence2 "it's a human thing, not a muslim thing"
once again muslims are not like humans
in two sentences you stated that muslims are not like humans or people
I'm saying that hypocrisy/dishonesty is not a trait specific to Muslims.
that is not what you said. you said those are not traits of muslims but they are traits of human/people.Erm have you actually been to pakistan on eid day? People eagerly await cow and camel slaughters just to get the lulz. When I was a kid I used to get the lulz out of the slaughther as well. If you havent actually seen public slaughters then please dont act like you really know what you are talking about.[QUOTE="dramaybaz"]
Erm, that is not slaughtering for entertainment purposes. The meat is eaten, just like it would be in any western restaurant, and a significant part of the meat is distributed among the poor.
Gambler_3
yes ive been to Pakistan on eid day and i barely notice anyone getting the lulz, most meat is given to poor people and relatives etc and i dnt know whats wrong with that. maybe some kids might find the slaughter to be lolzworthy but i dnt care about that as the main purpose of slaughter is not for the lulz but hey you're a biased atheist anyways....................
Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!Skullsoldi3rwtf? source?
[QUOTE="Skullsoldi3r"]Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!osiris667wtf? source?
he pulled it out from his stinking butt, its so obvious lol
Well, since we're generalizing, Christians do the same thing.scorch-62have you ever talked to an atheist?
Just like every other religion, if we're going down the generalization route.[QUOTE="Gambler_3"]I want to show everyone here an example of how indifferent Muslims are to the "feelings" of other religious people and yet when someone does something offensive to them, they will go all butt-hurt.jaydough
I voted you, but I know that means nothing to you :x
[QUOTE="SgtKevali"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] sentence1 "people are dishonest or hypocritical" "not muslims"
your words muslims are not like people
sentence2 "it's a human thing, not a muslim thing"
once again muslims are not like humans
in two sentences you stated that muslims are not like humans or people
surrealnumber5
I'm saying that hypocrisy/dishonesty is not a trait specific to Muslims.
that is not what you said. you said those are not traits of muslims but they are traits of human/people.You're either pretending to be very stupid, or maybe you just are... How can you not get that what he is saying is that those traits are not specific to Muslims alone, but rather to people in general?
You people are funny the way you try to put a spin on peoples comments due to your own incompetent misunderstanding of the contextwithin the quote.
Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!Skullsoldi3r
Prove it.
As a Muslim who has read the Quran I find it incredibly difficult that anyone could have concocted it.
Especially an illiterate man who spent his entire lifetime in poverty.
[QUOTE="Skullsoldi3r"]Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!SpinoRaptor24
Prove it.
As a Muslim who has read the Quran I find it incredibly difficult that anyone could have concocted it.
Especially an illiterate man who spent his entire lifetime in poverty.
i wouldnt take that guy serious, he oviously doesnt know what he's talking about, let the haters hate :)
Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!Skullsoldi3r
^ Funny guy....
Christ fasted for 40 days though, didn't he? Was this part of your joke?
that is not what you said. you said those are not traits of muslims but they are traits of human/people.[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
I'm saying that hypocrisy/dishonesty is not a trait specific to Muslims.
_R34LiTY_
You're either pretending to be very stupid, or maybe you just are... How can you not get that what he is saying is that those traits are not specific to Muslims alone, but rather to people in general?
You people are funny the way you try to put a spin on peoples comments due to your own incompetent misunderstanding of the contextwithin the quote.
you can interpret peoples words far outside of their meaning if you wish, you may also shoot slurs at others for no reason other than to get a rise out of them if you wish. i personally dont care, but GS does not smile on the later act, just a heads up. if that is not what he wanted to say he should not have said it.we butcher cows and goat. and then give the meat to poor people.
we dont do it for fun. stop posting if you no nothing about muslim
[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] that is not what you said. you said those are not traits of muslims but they are traits of human/people. surrealnumber5
You're either pretending to be very stupid, or maybe you just are... How can you not get that what he is saying is that those traits are not specific to Muslims alone, but rather to people in general?
You people are funny the way you try to put a spin on peoples comments due to your own incompetent misunderstanding of the contextwithin the quote.
you can interpret peoples words far outside of their meaning if you wish, you may also shoot slurs at others for no reason other than to get a rise out of them if you wish. i personally dont care, but GS does not smile on the later act, just a heads up. if that is not what he wanted to say he should not have said it.What he said has merit, and wasn't anything about Muslims not being humans.
you can interpret peoples words far outside of their meaning if you wish, you may also shoot slurs at others for no reason other than to get a rise out of them if you wish. i personally dont care, but GS does not smile on the later act, just a heads up. if that is not what he wanted to say he should not have said it.[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]
You're either pretending to be very stupid, or maybe you just are... How can you not get that what he is saying is that those traits are not specific to Muslims alone, but rather to people in general?
You people are funny the way you try to put a spin on peoples comments due to your own incompetent misunderstanding of the contextwithin the quote.
_R34LiTY_
What he said has merit, and wasn't anything about Muslims not being humans.
i guess in the same way you just called me your god, i just decided to read the words that i assumed you omitted much like you are doing for him[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] you can interpret peoples words far outside of their meaning if you wish, you may also shoot slurs at others for no reason other than to get a rise out of them if you wish. i personally dont care, but GS does not smile on the later act, just a heads up. if that is not what he wanted to say he should not have said it.surrealnumber5
What he said has merit, and wasn't anything about Muslims not being humans.
i guess in the same way you just called me your god, i just decided to read the words that i assumed you omitted much like you are doing for himIjust called you my god? What in the world are you on about now?
Middle Eastern Muslims believe they are the rulers of earth and better than everyone else. Western Muslims are respectful to other peoples views and see themselves as equal. The Quran in my opinion is a joke... seriously a man sat in a mountain not eating for 30 years receiving non stop visions from god? Thats called schizophrenia. No religion ftw!Skullsoldi3rShould I laugh my Butt off right now?
i guess in the same way you just called me your god, i just decided to read the words that i assumed you omitted much like you are doing for him[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]
What he said has merit, and wasn't anything about Muslims not being humans.
_R34LiTY_
Ijust called you my god? What in the world are you on about now?
did you not read the post, the words make it quite clear what i am "on about now"Slaughtering for entertainment? thats the first time iv heard that :lol:, maybe its just a cultural thing in Pakistan? People very often mix culture with religion ¬¬ this is straight up out of wikipedia.
Eid (The 2nd Eid) is also about spending time with family and friends, sacrifice, and thanksgiving for being able to afford food and housing. In traditional or agrarian settings, each family would sacrifice a domestic animal, such as a sheep, goat, cow, or camel, by slaughter (though some contemporary Muslims do not sacrifice an animal as part of their observance, it is still a very popular tradition, even in Muslim communities in Europe). The meat would then be divided into three equal parts to be distributed to others. The family eats one third, another third is given to other relatives, friends or neighbours, and the other third is given to the poor as a gift.
[QUOTE="ShiningBashir10"]
I can't believe that this thread hasn't been locked yet!
moccassins
Meh, iffy.
The strict moderations here are seriously getting ridiculous and honestly impeding real interesting and controversial threads such as these. Something has got to give.
If there is something that bothers you inside, why don't you try to dispute the credibility of his argument instead of stomping on the "Report Abuse" button? He gave his life story and seemed genuine.
Regardless this thread will end up getting locked sooner or later...
[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] i guess in the same way you just called me your god, i just decided to read the words that i assumed you omitted much like you are doing for him surrealnumber5
I just called you my god? What in the world are you on about now?
did you not read the post, the words make it quite clear what i am "on about now"lol You're exhibiting signs of dementia beginning to settle in. I dont know where are you getting this from, but sure....
You see TC,there's a wisdom behind butchering cows,sheep etc... on eid(whether publically or privatly it doesn't matter),it's to celebrate the end of the month of the holy month ramadan and to celebrate the coming of the eid Al-Fitr(which is basically a 3 day celebration for the 30 days of fast in ramadan),and the main reason behind butchering cows is to spread its' meat across the poor and whom in need,it teaches people to be generous and spread kindness and sharing amongst people.I'm not certain if Hindu have any relegious rituals or anything like that that is disrespectful to islam but if i saw it i'm not gonna run off and start complaining it because every single religion is different from the other and doesn't share the same concept of what's acceptable or not.If you didn't like what you saw then just look the other way around because in this time and world we live in where people of several religions,beliefs and nationality life together or far away from each other you need to have acceptance to the beliefs of others.
did you not read the post, the words make it quite clear what i am "on about now"[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]
I just called you my god? What in the world are you on about now?
_R34LiTY_
lol You're exhibiting signs of dementia beginning to settle in. I dont know where are you getting this from, but sure....
there you go again with the name calling[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] did you not read the post, the words make it quite clear what i am "on about now"surrealnumber5
lol You're exhibiting signs of dementia beginning to settle in. I dont know where are you getting this from, but sure....
there you go again with the name callingWell unless you can show me where I called you a god or ommitted anything of anything, I'd say something like that is not a far stretch
You see TC,there's a wisdom behind butchering cows,sheep etc... on eid(whether publically or privatly it doesn't matter),it's to celebrate the end of the month of the holy month ramadan and to celebrate the coming of the eid Al-Fitr(which is basically a 3 day celebration for the 30 days of fast in ramadan),and the main reason behind butchering cows is to spread its' meat across the poor and whom in need,it teaches people to be generous and spread kindness and sharing amongst people.I'm not certain if Hindu have any relegious rituals or anything like that that is disrespectful to islam but if i saw it i'm not gonna run off and start complaining it because every single religion is different from the other and doesn't share the same concept of what's acceptable or not.If you didn't like what you saw then just look the other way around because in this time and world we live in where people of several religions,beliefs and nationality life together or far away from each other you need to have acceptance to the beliefs of others.
ShiningBashir10
Excellent :D
Hello, what on earth you trying to tell to the world? You're once a muslim people before, right? If yes, stop making bad posts about Islam and please repent for your good. That's all.. the fasting month is now coming...I want to show everyone here an example of how indifferent Muslims are to the "feelings" of other religious people and yet when someone does something offensive to them, they will go all butt-hurt.
In Pakistan a country with 150 million Muslims, cows are publicly slaughtered on the Eid-Ul-Azha. Take a look here.
Now people are going to cringe when I will tell you that the cow slaughter is entertainment for people here and is one of the highlights of eid. Often children will also assist in the butcher as you saw in the video.
Now even if we somehow ignore how pathetic it is to display this as entertainment it so happens that the cow is a very holy animal in Hinduism which accounts for as much as a billion people around the world. In India there have been several deaths over these issues, Hindus don't want cow slaughter and Muslims don't want to be stripped of their right to do so. Currently in India it's not allowed anymore I think to publicly slaughter cows like this.
Now my question is, ok muslims shouldnt stop eating beef just because it offends hindus but why cant they atleast stop publicly buthering them?? Oh wait pakistan is a muslim dominated country, the muslims dont need to be politically correct here and can show their true self.:roll:
Imagine if a religion comes which has a yearly ritual of burning the Koran? All hell would break lose and jihad will be declared against that religion lol.
And before you say "nice generalising blah blah" there is not even a single person here who speaks against the public slaughter of the cow. And when something is said against Islam, a pretty significant no. of these people would be in favour of killing those who blasphemy. Those who are hating Islam these days aren't just stereotyping because of a few rotten apples, there is something wrong with a very significant population of the Muslim world.
A month or 2 ago, about a dozen Christians were burned alive becuase they had said something insulting about the Koran. There is a law here that anyone who blasphemies against Islam and the prophet will be given the death penalty,:lol: some people just decided to take matters in their own hand instead of delaying the inevitable.
And guess what? Most educated people I have talked to support this law.:|:|
Gambler_3
there you go again with the name calling[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]
lol You're exhibiting signs of dementia beginning to settle in. I dont know where are you getting this from, but sure....
_R34LiTY_
Well unless you can show me where I called you a god or ommitted anything of anything, I'd say something like that is not a far stretch
if i am demented then so are you as you found words not found in the persons post who you are so ardently defending, i found words in your post that you did not post. there is no difference in the two actions.[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] there you go again with the name callingsurrealnumber5
Well unless you can show me where I called you a god or ommitted anything of anything, I'd say something like that is not a far stretch
if i am demented then so are you as you found words not found in the persons post who you are so ardently defending, i found words in your post that you did not post. there is no difference in the two actions.all the character said was "most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.". you know, as in not limited to Muslims only. Where from that you got that Muslims aren't humans or that i called you a god is beyond me as is the reason for continuing to defend your troll position.
Some problems with your point. For 1 like a lot of people said; you do not know all muslims. Now this can be taken 2 ways since not all religious believers are true hardcore believers. For one some of them question their own religion and in fact almost make their own version of that said religion. For example someone may think Jesus never walked on water because its impossible, yet they still believe there is a god and a heaven and hell. This for me stems from a mortality view of their own which they do not want to think or helps put their mind to rest about dieing. You try and explain how science thinks the world came about etc which is alot more logical and proven but you have to accept that there is some parts they can not explain just yet. I mean take for example why does God raise the sea floor to create tusnamis why does he not simply just move the water. Why must he break up the earths crust to destroy cities instead of just doing so. Why has he created a world with a solid molten core with a magnetic field to prevent the suns rays from basically destroying the atmosphere and killing of all life. Why infact did he create the sun the way it is. By those questions you can see prehaps if he or she or whomever is the creator is infact binded by the laws of physics them selves. He may have created the earth but he would have basially done it like an airfix kit which is a bit more advanced. I am infact straying off the point lol so back we gooooo 2. Burning the Qu'ran is more insulting than killing some cows like that. I am against that although then we must interfier in the spanish bull fighting tradition as well (which they wont like the EU money grabbing twits lol) So in the defense of the statement you do infact not know all muslims. Though those muslims mentioned are most likely more extreme in their views. Someone on here may know a Dr who is a muslim who is pro stemcell research etc (if it is against their religion I am not sure) which contradicts their book but they still have that underneath muslim quality about them.
The problem with religion is when it is let loose and people can basically be brain washed in to thinking completely impossible things are and limited to education and create hate towards other people.
if i am demented then so are you as you found words not found in the persons post who you are so ardently defending, i found words in your post that you did not post. there is no difference in the two actions.[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]
Well unless you can show me where I called you a god or ommitted anything of anything, I'd say something like that is not a far stretch
_R34LiTY_
all the character said was "most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.". you know, as in not limited to Muslims only. Where from that you got that Muslims aren't humans or that i called you a god is beyond me as is the reason for continuing to defend your troll position.
so now i am a troll, that is the third slur you have called me. i know what he posted and what he posted is what he said. people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not muslims. people have this characteristic not muslims. its a human thing, not a muslim thing. its something humans do, it is not something muslims do.[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"][QUOTE="Gambler_3"]No most muslims atleast in europe are from the background I am relating to. They just become more "respectful" over there cuz they dont have a choice, they are the minority so they play it safe.
LJS9502_basic
In the US, plenty of Muslims are NOT from that background. They were born in the US.
He wasn't talking about the US though.....:|Since he felt the need to generalise by including ALL Muslims, he was talking about the US and every other country on the planet.
Muslims are like furries.
Both get bad rep, but only because a few select idiots decide to have the biggest voice, so that's how we see them.
99% of Muslims are respectable and kind.
99% of furries are just normal people with a hobby of fursuiting, drawing, and writing anthro.
looks like this is enough for that. Mods, please lock this one and one more thing, for muslims users in GS, happy fasting month and we should not make any trolls, bad post and anything else about islam. Only the dumb people can post it for making something wrong...amirzaimI don't think you can lock a thread on request.
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