this should be locked, the TC doesn't even know why we kill cows and goats (which we give to the poor people).
what a moron.
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this should be locked, the TC doesn't even know why we kill cows and goats (which we give to the poor people).
what a moron.
I asked Gambler_3: Do you eat beef?? he said: Yes i do. so i said: WTF!!! but you're not Muslim!!! so why are you insulting the Hindus???? you should not eat beef it's very disrespectful. tell me one thing Gambler_3...do we (Muslims) insult you (Christians) for eating Pork while we don't?? and you're saying that we kill everyone that insults Quran and that's true...maybe you don't care about your holy book but we do and if you really care about it i'm sure you would do the same. this is a very silly post...you hate us and you know nothing about Islam nor Muslims so you just say whatever comes to your mind...so how about you get some information about us and then come speak with us. and btw we don't butcher cows in eid al-adha we butcher sheep and give the meat to the poor people not for entertainment like you said you ignorant. finally i would like to thank everyone that defended Islam...you're true Muslim guys.Eyad-93
Aha! I spy a contradiction. :oops:
[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] if i am demented then so are you as you found words not found in the persons post who you are so ardently defending, i found words in your post that you did not post. there is no difference in the two actions. surrealnumber5
all the character said was "most people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not most Muslims. It's a human thing, not a Muslim thing.". you know, as in not limited to Muslims only. Where from that you got that Muslims aren't humans or that i called you a god is beyond me as is the reason for continuing to defend your troll position.
so now i am a troll, that is the third slur you have called me. i know what he posted and what he posted is what he said. people are dishonest or hypocritical at some times, not muslims. people have this characteristic not muslims. its a human thing, not a muslim thing. its something humans do, it is not something muslims do.Any rational adult human being will understand that he was not saying that muslims are not human. You're ether being obtuse or your simply trying to stir things up.
[QUOTE="SgtKevali"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] sentence1 "people are dishonest or hypocritical" "not muslims"
your words muslims are not like people
sentence2 "it's a human thing, not a muslim thing"
once again muslims are not like humans
in two sentences you stated that muslims are not like humans or people
surrealnumber5
I'm saying that hypocrisy/dishonesty is not a trait specific to Muslims.
that is not what you said. you said those are not traits of muslims but they are traits of human/people.Yeah. They're NOT traits specific to Muslims, they're human traits, and since Muslims are included in humanity, Muslims can be hypocritical/dishonst. I'm saying that being dishonest isn't something that is exclusive to Muslims, it's a human thing (in which Muslims are included). Do you honestly think that I consider Muslims outside of humanity? You just misinterpreted what I was saying. If with this explanation you still don't understand what I'm trying to say, I'm just going to forget about it.
[QUOTE="Eyad-93"]I asked Gambler_3: Do you eat beef?? he said: Yes i do. so i said: WTF!!! but you're not Muslim!!! so why are you insulting the Hindus???? you should not eat beef it's very disrespectful. tell me one thing Gambler_3...do we (Muslims) insult you (Christians) for eating Pork while we don't?? and you're saying that we kill everyone that insults Quran and that's true...maybe you don't care about your holy book but we do and if you really care about it i'm sure you would do the same. this is a very silly post...you hate us and you know nothing about Islam nor Muslims so you just say whatever comes to your mind...so how about you get some information about us and then come speak with us. and btw we don't butcher cows in eid al-adha we butcher sheep and give the meat to the poor people not for entertainment like you said you ignorant. finally i would like to thank everyone that defended Islam...you're true Muslim guys.Hexagon_777Aha! I spy a contradiction. :oops:
look for the bigger image dude
[QUOTE="Eyad-93"]I asked Gambler_3: Do you eat beef?? he said: Yes i do. so i said: WTF!!! but you're not Muslim!!! so why are you insulting the Hindus???? you should not eat beef it's very disrespectful. tell me one thing Gambler_3...do we (Muslims) insult you (Christians) for eating Pork while we don't?? and you're saying that we kill everyone that insults Quran and that's true...]maybe you don't care about your holy book but we do and if you really care about it i'm sure you would do the same. this is a very silly post...you hate us and you know nothing about Islam nor Muslims so you just say whatever comes to your mind...so how about you get some information about us and then come speak with us.and btw we don't butcher cows in eid al-adha we butcher sheep and give the meat to the poor people not for entertainment like you said you ignorant. finally i would like to thank everyone that defended Islam...you're true Muslim guys.Hexagon_777
Aha! I spy a contradiction. :oops:
how would you feel if someone talks crap about your family? i dont know about you but i'd get pretty pissed and break their face. now the problem is you people dont understand the relation between islam and muslim, for us our religion is more important then our own selves so ya know i'd get bloody mad if anyone talks **** about it. :)
All of the muslims I've ever met show respect for everyone else's beliefs.XilePrincessThat's really funny. Same here. hmmmm.
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Eyad-93"]I asked Gambler_3: Do you eat beef?? he said: Yes i do. so i said: WTF!!! but you're not Muslim!!! so why are you insulting the Hindus???? you should not eat beef it's very disrespectful. tell me one thing Gambler_3...do we (Muslims) insult you (Christians) for eating Pork while we don't?? and you're saying that we kill everyone that insults Quran and that's true...maybe you don't care about your holy book but we do and if you really care about it i'm sure you would do the same. this is a very silly post...you hate us and you know nothing about Islam nor Muslims so you just say whatever comes to your mind...so how about you get some information about us and then come speak with us. and btw we don't butcher cows in eid al-adha we butcher sheep and give the meat to the poor people not for entertainment like you said you ignorant. finally i would like to thank everyone that defended Islam...you're true Muslim guys.Eyad-93Aha! I spy a contradiction. :oops:look for the bigger image dudeWell, we aren't supposed to use extremes, right? :P
As a Muslim, I completely agree that many Muslims are hypocrites when it comes to freedom of speech, and that many don't show any respect for other religions. I know Muslims who will become outraged if they see someone mocking Muhammad, but say nothing about another prophet like Jesus or Moses being mocked.
And as much as I am opposed to being insensitive to others' beliefs, I don't there's anything wrong slaughtering animals (in slaughter houses, at least; and children should have no participation whatsoever). In this case, the end justifies the means. And that's because the meat from that animal is distributed to the poor.
I honestly don't care if someone burns a Koran, because there are millions of them in the world. However, I think doing that doesn't really send a message to Muslims so much as it makes them angry.
These religious debates make me glad to be an Atheist...I'm not even an outspoken one,but threads like this and the debates they start remind me why I chose the path I did.
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"][QUOTE="Eyad-93"]I asked Gambler_3: Do you eat beef?? he said: Yes i do. so i said: WTF!!! but you're not Muslim!!! so why are you insulting the Hindus???? you should not eat beef it's very disrespectful. tell me one thing Gambler_3...do we (Muslims) insult you (Christians) for eating Pork while we don't?? and you're saying that we kill everyone that insults Quran and that's true...]maybe you don't care about your holy book but we do and if you really care about it i'm sure you would do the same. this is a very silly post...you hate us and you know nothing about Islam nor Muslims so you just say whatever comes to your mind...so how about you get some information about us and then come speak with us.and btw we don't butcher cows in eid al-adha we butcher sheep and give the meat to the poor people not for entertainment like you said you ignorant. finally i would like to thank everyone that defended Islam...you're true Muslim guys.sikanderahmedAha! I spy a contradiction. :oops:how would you feel if someone talks crap about your family? i dont know about you but i'd get pretty pissed and break their face. now the problem is you people dont understand the relation between islam and muslim, for us our religion is more important then our own selves so ya know i'd get bloody mad if anyone talks **** about it. :)Of course we understand. There's nothing complex to understand here. Some just find it very extreme that Islam is more important than you, your family, your nation, and pretty much everything else. Such an extreme is very intimidating and not very welcoming and there's a lot of hypocrisy involved as well. Even after leaving Saudi Arabia, I am still confronted by it by Muslim friends. Great people when they are just being themselves, but as soon as Islam comes into play, I wish to leave because they excel at raising their voices and talking down on me and making me feel uncomfortable about myself may it be because I eat pork every now and then or believe that homosexuals have every right to be on the planet as they do or because people are allowed to draw images of Mohammed due to freedom of speech or because they tell me how beautiful Islam is and that I am practically a Muslim anyway and what have you. I have been given so many reasons to be put off by Muslims and that has of course affected my perception of Islam. I just wish they would be the people they normally are when Islam isn't the topic. I don't want to have to watch every word I say. I want to be friends without having to convert or be changed or be told how superior Islam is. Simply speaking of this has greatly upset me already. I am sorry if I offended you but I am speaking from years of experience and I just named the tame stuff here to boot.
Hexagon_777Pretty much every religion requires you to put it before everything else. Just because Muslims consider God to be more important than anything, doesn't mean they can do anything they damn well please.
[QUOTE="Hexagon_777"]ghoklebutterPretty much every religion requires you to put it before everything else. Just because Muslims consider God to be more important than anything, doesn't mean they can do anything they damn well please. I am just agnostic/atheist/whatever and live my life. I don't rape/steal/murder but don't go about saying how awesome agnosticism/atheism/whateverism is either. I am just a person. I just live.
From what I've seen, Muslims that live in the West show respect. The thing is, India and Pakistan are both very cultural countries. Almost everyone in those countries believe their religion is right and all others are wrong, I'm Hindu, I would know, almost all my relatives that live in India are like that. This leads to many problems however. My grandpa was killed by a group of Muslims because of religion. IMO religion is really stupid, everyday I'm moving farther away from Hinduism, I just don't think anything good could come from religion.
TC arguments are incredibly inaccurate and misleading. A lot of people slaughter cows for beef; in other words a lot of people eat beef, so all people who eat beef are disrespecting hindus?
Besides, Muslims Eid is for charity, meat is distributed among poor people.
Where do you live? Do they have the "option" of not showing respect? Do they slaughter cows on eid? I am a Muslim and you have truly offended me with the thread title. Muslims show no respect blah blah; let me tell you, YOU don't show respect to us. If i had to disrespect you i could have made a topic like this; but i didn't. That's the first point of you being ignorant. Secondly, you've never ever ate beef? That's lies. Even today's Hindus eat beef. I live in the US, and most of my friends drink, smoke, and all things forbidden in Islam; and guess what? I didn't kill a single one of them!! Hmm, in fact now that i think; you were basically targeting Pakistanis; and are an Indian yourself; and because it would have been too obvious if you said Pakistan directly, you involved cows, Islam and Pakistan to make it ambiguous.[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]All of the muslims I've ever met show respect for everyone else's beliefs.Gambler_3
Yeah LOL. And most of us slaughter sheep/goats.TC arguments are incredibly inaccurate and misleading. A lot of people slaughter cows for beef; in other words a lot of people eat beef, so all people who eat beef are disrespecting hindus?
Besides, Muslims Eid is for charity, meat is distributed among poor people.
TehFuneral
im living in the west and yes majority of muslims have this mentality which is a good thing and i really dont know what you're problem is with fundamentalism....but considering you're an atheist you likely have a problem with islam no matter what so its not worth discussing anything with you as theres no point...ya know haters gonna hate
sikanderahmed
[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]
im living in the west and yes majority of muslims have this mentality which is a good thing and i really dont know what you're problem is with fundamentalism....but considering you're an atheist you likely have a problem with islam no matter what so its not worth discussing anything with you as theres no point...ya know haters gonna hate
Gambler_3
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is that all you can come up with :)
Yup, there have many many fights in India over cow slaughter and now in most places of India it's banned. Heck mc'donalds india does not have a beef burger, now go figure how much it matters to them. The hindu-muslim conflict has killed millions in history and this cow is one of the more sensitive issues among them.Did the hindus ask them to stop?
Espada12
And yes I eat beef but you know what? I never ask someone to restrict their freedom of speech and expression just so it doesnt hurt my feelings, anyone can say anything about atheists and all I will do is give a response in words. Muslims demand special pleading on many of their issues like their prophet shouldnt be drawn, quran shouldnt be burned etc so they should also restrict own freedom for others...and I am not even saying they should stop eating beef but just stop "ritually" slaughtering cows...
I'm pretty much sure TC is from India.As I am also from India I would like to point out that most muslim families do not slaughter cows.They prefer goats and sheep.Plus there is this whole YOU ARE AN INDIAN MUSLIM,YOU DONT BELONG IN INDIA GO TO PAKISTAN ideology over here you are just making generalisations.When it comes to minority rights over in India muslims,christians etc are treated similar to those cows you say are being slaughtered.There have been so many communal riots in India that it can be safely said that even Hinduism is not a tolerant religion.Also we muslims slaughter goats and sheep and distribute the most of the meat to the poor and some of it we keep for ourselves.We don't slaughter them for entertainment.We slaughter them to celebrate Prophet Abraham's (PBUH) willingness,courage and faith to sacrifice his own son when he was commanded by Allah(God).I hope you make valid arguments next time and not just display the extremist BJP,RSS and Shiv Sena hindu ideology next time.conistant
TC is an ex muslim and pakistani
But are they hypocrites? If someone disrespects their culture and religion, will they take it upon themselves to kill the blasphemours?I guess all Mexicans must all be evil un-respectful bastards too.
They slaughter bulls for sport in public stadiums after all.
:roll:
dercoo
[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]the TC has been cornered .sikanderahmed
you cant corner a person who'll just keep pulling crap out of his butt lol
:lol:[QUOTE="conistant"]I'm pretty much sure TC is from India.As I am also from India I would like to point out that most muslim families do not slaughter cows.They prefer goats and sheep.Plus there is this whole YOU ARE AN INDIAN MUSLIM,YOU DONT BELONG IN INDIA GO TO PAKISTAN ideology over here you are just making generalisations.When it comes to minority rights over in India muslims,christians etc are treated similar to those cows you say are being slaughtered.There have been so many communal riots in India that it can be safely said that even Hinduism is not a tolerant religion.Also we muslims slaughter goats and sheep and distribute the most of the meat to the poor and some of it we keep for ourselves.We don't slaughter them for entertainment.We slaughter them to celebrate Prophet Abraham's (PBUH) willingness,courage and faith to sacrifice his own son when he was commanded by Allah(God).I hope you make valid arguments next time and not just display the extremist BJP,RSS and Shiv Sena hindu ideology next time.sikanderahmed
TC is an ex muslim and pakistani
I don't think I believe that.Many people claim they are muslim and if he was a muslim he would have known Eid ul adha's purpose and why we slaughter sheep,goats etc.I'm pretty much sure TC is from India.As I am also from India I would like to point out that most muslim families do not slaughter cows.They prefer goats and sheep.Plus there is this whole YOU ARE AN INDIAN MUSLIM,YOU DONT BELONG IN INDIA GO TO PAKISTAN ideology over here you are just making generalisations.When it comes to minority rights over in India muslims,christians etc are treated similar to those cows you say are being slaughtered.There have been so many communal riots in India that it can be safely said that even Hinduism is not a tolerant religion.Also we muslims slaughter goats and sheep and distribute the most of the meat to the poor and some of it we keep for ourselves.We don't slaughter them for entertainment.We slaughter them to celebrate Prophet Abraham's (PBUH) willingness,courage and faith to sacrifice his own son when he was commanded by Allah(God).I hope you make valid arguments next time and not just display the extremist BJP,RSS and Shiv Sena hindu ideology next time.conistantI live in pakistan dude.....lol.
[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"][QUOTE="conistant"]I'm pretty much sure TC is from India.As I am also from India I would like to point out that most muslim families do not slaughter cows.They prefer goats and sheep.Plus there is this whole YOU ARE AN INDIAN MUSLIM,YOU DONT BELONG IN INDIA GO TO PAKISTAN ideology over here you are just making generalisations.When it comes to minority rights over in India muslims,christians etc are treated similar to those cows you say are being slaughtered.There have been so many communal riots in India that it can be safely said that even Hinduism is not a tolerant religion.Also we muslims slaughter goats and sheep and distribute the most of the meat to the poor and some of it we keep for ourselves.We don't slaughter them for entertainment.We slaughter them to celebrate Prophet Abraham's (PBUH) willingness,courage and faith to sacrifice his own son when he was commanded by Allah(God).I hope you make valid arguments next time and not just display the extremist BJP,RSS and Shiv Sena hindu ideology next time.conistant
TC is an ex muslim and pakistani
I don't think I believe that.Many people claim they are muslim and if he was a muslim he would have known Eid ul adha's purpose and why we slaughter sheep,goats etc. guess he likes sheep too much ? :PI live in pakistan dude.....lol. I seriously doubt this too.Can we have some evidence please?[QUOTE="conistant"]I'm pretty much sure TC is from India.As I am also from India I would like to point out that most muslim families do not slaughter cows.They prefer goats and sheep.Plus there is this whole YOU ARE AN INDIAN MUSLIM,YOU DONT BELONG IN INDIA GO TO PAKISTAN ideology over here you are just making generalisations.When it comes to minority rights over in India muslims,christians etc are treated similar to those cows you say are being slaughtered.There have been so many communal riots in India that it can be safely said that even Hinduism is not a tolerant religion.Also we muslims slaughter goats and sheep and distribute the most of the meat to the poor and some of it we keep for ourselves.We don't slaughter them for entertainment.We slaughter them to celebrate Prophet Abraham's (PBUH) willingness,courage and faith to sacrifice his own son when he was commanded by Allah(God).I hope you make valid arguments next time and not just display the extremist BJP,RSS and Shiv Sena hindu ideology next time.Gambler_3
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