My 16 year old nephew abuses his mother, little brother, and little sister.

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#1 -Big_Red-
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Before I tell you anything let me let you guys know something.

This is not a joke topic.

Do not come into this thread saying something sexist like: "Real men don't hit women." Because:

1. I do not believe that, you always have the right to defend yourself.

2. I do not want that to be what this topic is about.

3. My nephew isn't a man, he is a 16 year old boy.

I am not a chivalrous white knight, nor do I have a natural instict to protect women/children. But I will protect someone(man, women, or child)if I feel like I need to. I just hate bullies. Which is now what my nephew has become.

Let's begin.

My nephew, and his brother, and sister use to live with me, and my family(for a very long time). His African American family if you will. They're mixed. Half black/half white. It will become more clear as to why I told you this later.

He, and his siblings moved in with their mother(white family) a few months ago. And now he has gradually been abusing his family. Now before I tell you what goes on, let me give you an approximate idea of how old they are.

-The abuser/my nephew is 16, and still in 9th grade, if he doesn't get his act together he will be in 9th grade next year.

- His little sister is in 5th grade. I don't know exactly how old she is.

-His little brother is in 3rd. I also don't know how old he is.

-The mother is in her 30's, and she is also a giant pushover(which is why my nephew can get away with this crap.) She has been abused by past boyfriends like my older brother, and her current one. Now her own damned son.

Okay here's what he does/has done.(Besides doing drugs and alcohol/being promiscuous/getting crap grades/skipping school) All things that his mother doesn't agree with.

He regularly beats up his little brother. I'm not talking about Malcolm in The Middle, big brother little brother fighting. What he does to him is abuse. He cusses themout, and yells at all of them. He doesn't let any of them be in the living room too much(this is his "area" I guess). He slapped his little sister so hard, that he made her ear bleed, and he choked her. When his mother does try to get a belt, and give him some will deserved discipline he'll just overpower her. Push her off of him, tell her not to touch him. Tell her that she's fat, ugly, and a terrible mother. Demand that she buy him fast food whenever possible.

And to top it all off my nephew is now racist. He told them that he hates/is afraid of/ doesn't like black people.Which is half of what he is. He has no reason to be that way. We didn't mistreat him, or his sibling when they lived with us. I always knew that he didn't like to be around black people too much(except me) He told me this. And he doesn't have too many black friends. But I had no clue that he is racist.

This is what I can 100% confirm. Not because I've seen it. But because they came over a few days ago, and told our family this. Also whenever they come over, he'll just stay home. He knows what me(my dad, or my brothers) woulddo to him if I see his ass again. He's a coward. He'd only try that abuse crap on someone that he can overpower. Not someone that he can't beat, or that would provide him with a somewhat fair fight.

I don't see this ending anytime soon. The mother is a pushover. She's said time, and time again that she's going to do something about it. Like send him to a place for troubled teens, kick him out, ETC.....And the dad... Well... He doesn't live near them. And they're divorced. We don't exactly know where he is. The one time he was with them recently, to take them school shopping my nephew tried to fight him. My nephew lost. And now he knows not to try that abuse stuff on him.

I had talked to my friend about this. And he told me that I gotta beat him up. I could easily kill him if I we're to fight ihm..(I'm 19 BTW). And for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.

What the f*** do I do OT?

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#2 stevoqwerty
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Tell the mum to call the cop when he abuses her again.

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#3 Artekus
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Uh, murder followed by a killing spree is probably not the best course of action...
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#4 IceBlazerX
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Tell the mum to call the cop when he abuses her again.

stevoqwerty
This. There is no way she or anyone else should put up with this.
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#5 Sagem28
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Talk to the mother and convince her to call the authorities. If she refuses, call them yourself.

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#6 Sagem28
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I had talked to my friend about this. And he told me that I gotta beat him up. I could easily kill him if I we're to fight ihm..(I'm 19 BTW). And for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.

What the f*** do I do OT?

-Big_Red-

And get yourself checked, seriously.

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for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.-Big_Red-
I blame Grand Theft Auto, Michael Bay and such rappers as 50 cent and Justin Bieber.
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.ColonelWilks
I blame Grand Theft Auto, Michael Bay and such rappers as 50 cent and Justin Bieber.

Like Justin Beiber raps. >_>
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#9 ColonelWilks
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[QUOTE="ColonelWilks"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.-Big_Red-
I blame Grand Theft Auto, Michael Bay and such rappers as 50 cent and Justin Bieber.

Like Justin Beiber raps. >_>

Nothing escapes you.
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#10 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]

I had talked to my friend about this. And he told me that I gotta beat him up. I could easily kill him if I we're to fight ihm..(I'm 19 BTW). And for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.

What the f*** do I do OT?

And get yourself checked, seriously.

I probably won't kill him If I fight him, seeing as when I fight I only use 60% of my total possible output. But I may get a little..... Excited. Seeing as I haven't fought in awhile. And accidentally kill him. Which would trigger the killing spree.
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#11 no_more_fayth
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He's sixteen.

Just walk up to him and calmly say, "If you ever think about hurting them again, I will **** you."

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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="ColonelWilks"] I blame Grand Theft Auto, Michael Bay and such rappers as 50 cent and Justin Bieber.ColonelWilks
Like Justin Beiber raps. >_>

Nothing escapes you.

:oops:
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#13 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

He's sixteen.

Just walk up to him and calmly say, "If you ever think about hurting them again, I will **** you."

"F*** you"?:? And he seriously thinks he's a grown ass man. He also think that he's god's gift to women. He's a womanizer of sorts.
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#14 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]

I had talked to my friend about this. And he told me that I gotta beat him up. I could easily kill him if I we're to fight ihm..(I'm 19 BTW). And for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.

What the f*** do I do OT?

And get yourself checked, seriously.

I'll be alright. Hopefully.
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#15 no_more_fayth
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

He's sixteen.

Just walk up to him and calmly say, "If you ever think about hurting them again, I will **** you."

-Big_Red-

"F*** you"?:? And he seriously thinks he's a grown ass man. He also think that he's god's gift to women. He's a womanizer of sorts.

:lol: I seriously meant to add the word "up."

My bad. :o

But yeah, just do what I said.

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#16 Bedizen
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]

I had talked to my friend about this. And he told me that I gotta beat him up. I could easily kill him if I we're to fight ihm..(I'm 19 BTW). And for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.

What the f*** do I do OT?

Sagem28

And get yourself checked, seriously.

Do this, I don't think you should involve yourself in this problem, until you deal with your own issues

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#17 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="IceBlazerX"][QUOTE="stevoqwerty"]

Tell the mum to call the cop when he abuses her again.

This. There is no way she or anyone else should put up with this.

I've been considering this. But DCF(which is department of children services or something like that) Are regularly in their face. Seeing as they are giving my younger nephew a psychiatric evaluation. He has mental problems. If she was going to do something about the abuse, she could of let them know. Also, there are other people in my family, who are older than I. And they know what's going on. If anyone calls the police it should be one of them. I don't want everyone to look at me, and say: "John you got Dante arrested". And my brother(he is one of the head people in charge of the Deveruex's in my area which is a place for troubled youth.) said if he does go to juvie, or another place for troubled teens than he may end up worse than what he is know. I don't really want to be involved with screwing him over for life. which is why I'm leaning towards beating him up. Each option has it's positive, and negative side effects.
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#18 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

He's sixteen.

Just walk up to him and calmly say, "If you ever think about hurting them again, I will **** you."

no_more_fayth

"F*** you"?:? And he seriously thinks he's a grown ass man. He also think that he's god's gift to women. He's a womanizer of sorts.

:lol: I seriously meant to add the word "up."

My bad. :o

But yeah, just do what I said.

:lol:I'm also thinking about doing that.(threatening him). He knows that a fight with me would be gruesome for him. But the problem is that I haven't seen him really. He stays away from his "black family".

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#19 no_more_fayth
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So where is he?

With his orange family?

What do you mean?

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#20 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

So where is he?

With his orange family?

What do you mean?

They live in another city. And what do you mean "orange family"?
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#21 no_more_fayth
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

So where is he?

With his orange family?

What do you mean?

-Big_Red-

They live in another city. And what do you mean "orange family"?

I didn't know if you meant something by "black family."

I was thinking of Oompa Loompas, so I said orange. :o

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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

So where is he?

With his orange family?

What do you mean?

They live in another city. And what do you mean "orange family"?

I didn't know if you meant something by "black family."

I was thinking of Oompa Loompas, so I said orange. :o

Nahhhh. He's mixed. Half black, half white. I thought you we're talking about guidos.
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#23 no_more_fayth
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Hmm.

Well, I don't know.

Not much you can do short of calling the authorities.

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#24 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

Hmm.

Well, I don't know.

Not much you can do short of calling the authorities.

I would, but my brother wanred us not do that, seeing as he may end up worse if he goes to juvie/a place for troubled teens. MY brother works with troubled youth for a living. He knows his stuff.
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#25 IceBlazerX
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Why haven't you called the cops already? This is wrong and in no way acceptable. If it were me I would have beaten him up myself.
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Why haven't you called the cops already? This is wrong and in no way acceptable. If it were me I would have beaten him up myself.IceBlazerX
I do want to beat him up. But ever since I knew that the abuse was going on I haven't seen him. And my Mom doesn't want to go over there. My Dad is a long distance truck driver, and hasn't been home yet since we found out.
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her mother need a caring boyfriend to sort things out.work it out.

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#28 -Big_Red-
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her mother need a caring boyfriend to sort things out.work it out.

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I don't see that happening anytime soon.
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#29 IceBlazerX
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[QUOTE="IceBlazerX"]Why haven't you called the cops already? This is wrong and in no way acceptable. If it were me I would have beaten him up myself.-Big_Red-
I do want to beat him up. But ever since I knew that the abuse was going on I haven't seen him. And my Mom doesn't want to go over there. My Dad is a long distance truck driver, and hasn't been home yet since we found out.

You should still do something about this. I know people on the internet can't really give you advice for this stuff, but it's still an issue that could turn out really badly.
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="IceBlazerX"]Why haven't you called the cops already? This is wrong and in no way acceptable. If it were me I would have beaten him up myself.IceBlazerX
I do want to beat him up. But ever since I knew that the abuse was going on I haven't seen him. And my Mom doesn't want to go over there. My Dad is a long distance truck driver, and hasn't been home yet since we found out.

You should still do something about this. I know people on the internet can't really give you advice for this stuff, but it's still an issue that could turn out really badly.

I know abuse usually escelates, right? I just gotta see him.
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#31 VaguelyTagged
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[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"]

her mother need a caring boyfriend to sort things out.work it out.

-Big_Red-
I don't see that happening anytime soon.

maybe you could frame the kid and send him to jail for sometime? or considering his age,to a rehab camp?that could give him a lesson.
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#32 -Big_Red-
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[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"]

her mother need a caring boyfriend to sort things out.work it out.

I don't see that happening anytime soon.

maybe you could frame the kid and send him to jail for sometime? or considering his age,to a rehab camp?that could give him a lesson.

Possibly. But the problem is that I NEVER see him. He's afraid to come over here.
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[QUOTE="VaguelyTagged"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] I don't see that happening anytime soon.-Big_Red-
maybe you could frame the kid and send him to jail for sometime? or considering his age,to a rehab camp?that could give him a lesson.

Possibly. But the problem is that I NEVER see him. He's afraid to come over here.

well,i didn't mean you could frame him in front of you PC,seriously it's not that hard,all you need to do is to turn him in when he's doing drugs or something.
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#34 pengo93
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If you see him hurt anyone, then definitely belt him up good. Maybe knock out some teeth or break something. But if you just show up and fight him it'll only make him worse. Consult the rest of your family, especially his Mum on getting him help. Help could either be a guidance counseller, parole officer or an intervention. Just get him off the streets.

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#35 T_P_O
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If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.

What the f*** do I do OT?-Big_Red-

Institutionalise yourself.

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Knock him out and tape him up and keep him in a dark place.

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#37 max-Emadness
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Talk to the mother and convince her to call the authorities. If she refuses, call them yourself.

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i agree
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#38 l4dak47
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You have a few choices. Let him keep doing what's he doing. Beat the s**** out of him. Call the cops. Each choice has pros and cons. But honestly, he sounds like he just needs an alpha male to control him. So, beat him, but be disciplined about it. Don't lose control of yourself.
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#39 osiris667
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Violence is the answer in this case. I remember when i met a kid like that, he used to talk back to his mom (nowhere near as bad as op's story). I took him outside....boy, he came back in like he had been struck by lightning.

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Ask Mr. Geezer
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#42 Mr_Alexander
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My nephew ... [his] mother ... has been abused by past boyfriends like my older brother. Wait, hold on, your brother dated his aunt? OR did you mean "my brother has also been abused.."?
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#43 frostybanana
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Beat him down. I can honestly say that's what I would do. You punch him in the mouth once and he'll straighten up. If he's physically hurting other children and indeed being abusive the way that he is, he needs to have his teeth kicked in. He'll be better off in the long run because next time he thinks about being a douchebag, he'll remember "oh, the last time I did that, I got my face smashed in. better not do that!" It's pretty simple advice but it's worked for centuries.
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#44 rikkustrife
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My nephew ... [his] mother ... has been abused by past boyfriends like my older brother. Wait, hold on, your brother dated his aunt? OR did you mean "my brother has also been abused.."?Mr_Alexander


I'm pretty sure the mother is his sister in-law, or would have been if she was once married to his brother
he never said she was his aunt, her son is his brother's son

or something like that

well the fact that you thought of killing him, or that that would you to go on a killing spree makes me think you both need help

if your brother works with troubled teens, wouldn't he have ideas as to what to do^

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Blog about it.
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#46 Uncle_Uzi
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Blog about it.Deihjan

This is my first comment in this thread.

If you don't want to read about something, DON'T CLICK ON THE THREAD.

YOU'RE NOT A ****ING MODERATOR

But on topic: Yeah, the unversal concencus seems to be that he needs some manhandling to put things in perspective. You gotta approach the beatdown in a Caesar Milan kinda way though, you need to dominate him. You need to display dominant behavior. The key will be to immobilize him first. Then, if you have him pinned to the wall or ground, you need to deliver a series of harsh smacks, with a move-style monologue for added weight. Like this:

YOU *smack* DON'T *smack* EVER *smack* ANTAGONIZE *smack* YOUR *smack* MOTHER *smack* OR *smack* I'LL *smack* COME OVER *smack* AND DO THIS *smack* AGAIN! *extra hard smack*

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#47 Filipino_Rambo
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Chase him down the street and punch him in the spleen!
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#48 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]for reasons that I do not want to discuss in this topic. If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.ColonelWilks
I blame Grand Theft Auto, Michael Bay and such rappers as 50 cent and Justin Bieber.

Justin Beiber is not a rapper. He's a metal artist.

It's called Beibercore. Look it up.

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#49 lowkey254
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="no_more_fayth"]

Hmm.

Well, I don't know.

Not much you can do short of calling the authorities.

I would, but my brother wanred us not do that, seeing as he may end up worse if he goes to juvie/a place for troubled teens. MY brother works with troubled youth for a living. He knows his stuff.

the best thing to do is to call the authorities. worrying about his future is allowing him to screw up his younger brother and sister. You have a decision to make, let him continue to terrorize them, while leaving a mental imprint of what's "normal", or have him taken away so that they can have a different view of things.
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#50 Overlord93
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at first I was getting your story...but then

If I do kill him, It may trigger myself to go on a killing spree.-Big_Red-

wait, what?