Myths about marijuana usage.

[QUOTE="Emraldo"]

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Sorry, had some actual sources in my throat.

positivebalance

It talks about heightened risk of cannabis triggered psychosis amongst those genetically predisposed schizophrenia.

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="Emraldo"]

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Sorry, had some actual sources in my throat.

Emraldo

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="metroidfood"]

It's not that I'm saying he's necessarily lying, but that these things are being blown out of proportion. More likely than not, these studies usually end up being something like:

[Specific compound sometimes found in marijuana] can inhibit [certain behaviors of malignant tumors] in [specific types of cancers].

Which is a far cry from what it's usually presented at (of course, this goes for pretty much all science reported in the media).

jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="Emraldo"]

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Sorry, had some actual sources in my throat.

jimmyjammer69

It talks about heightened risk of cannabis triggered psychosis amongst those genetically predisposed schizophrenia.

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="Emraldo"]

*cough*

Sorry, had some actual sources in my throat.

jimmyjammer69

It talks about heightened risk of cannabis triggered psychosis amongst those genetically predisposed schizophrenia.

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

Unless you actually post links to honorable sources on the matter, that aren't at the same time refuked by others, I'm not buying it. Bottom line, marijuana isn't good for you. It's impossible to argue that. What comes afterwards is just the other person's choice. Doesn't change that it's illegal in most countries, and I hope it stays that way.

positivebalance

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

weed does NOT cause brain cell damage, will NOT give you cancer and is NOT a gateway drug. Also to whoever said weed laced with acid, you cant do that. You cant smoke acidStanley09

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

Unless you actually post links to honorable sources on the matter, that aren't at the same time refuked by others, I'm not buying it. Bottom line, marijuana isn't good for you. It's impossible to argue that. What comes afterwards is just the other person's choice. Doesn't change that it's illegal in most countries, and I hope it stays that way.

calvinsora

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

Unless you actually post links to honorable sources on the matter, that aren't at the same time refuked by others, I'm not buying it. Bottom line, marijuana isn't good for you. It's impossible to argue that. What comes afterwards is just the other person's choice. Doesn't change that it's illegal in most countries, and I hope it stays that way.

calvinsora

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

why? what boogeyman-like stories have you heard about marijuana? enlighten me.

SeanDog123

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

67gt500

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

why? what boogeyman-like stories have you heard about marijuana? enlighten me.

positivebalance

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

Please debunk some positive myths about Marijuana if you arn't biased. You're quick to say everything bad about it is untrue, but you haven't said anything about the positive myths.

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

67gt500

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

Unless you actually post links to honorable sources on the matter, that aren't at the same time refuked by others, I'm not buying it. Bottom line, marijuana isn't good for you. It's impossible to argue that. What comes afterwards is just the other person's choice. Doesn't change that it's illegal in most countries, and I hope it stays that way.

calvinsora

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

Sure, when someone wants to disprove friggin drugs harmful effects, then of course there will be more stuff about it from pro marijuana supporters. But when you have medical people who obviously know that it is terrible for you, then of course they arent going to spend there time putting stuff out on the internet.

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

Pixel-Pirate

Please debunk some positive myths about Marijuana if you arn't biased. You're quick to say everything bad about it is untrue, but you haven't said anything about the positive myths.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="SeanDog123"] You make a good point, but there have also been studies which have shown that tobacco smokers who smoke weed have less occurrences of cancer than those who only smoke tobacco. I'm not saying I believe it, but there is evidence for it.SeanDog123

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

67gt500

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call a source.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

positivebalance

Those "government" websites have medical doctors and researchers at their disposal, so unless you can disprove the basis of what they said, then you really have no case.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

positivebalance

The problem is that most users are about as interested in vapes and cooking as tobacco smokers are in chewing. Sure, it's out there but it's still fringe use.

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="calvinsora"]

It's that for every "positive" marijuana coverage, I see about ten negativeones. But let's ignore that due to predesignated bias. Yippee.

I don't exactly see the point, though. Like someone posted here, inhaling any kind of smoke (i.e. vapor containing carbon dioxide, created by the burning of anything) can cause lung diseases and even lung cancer.

Pixel-Pirate

Please debunk some positive myths about Marijuana if you arn't biased. You're quick to say everything bad about it is untrue, but you haven't said anything about the positive myths.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

any my source wasn't legit? :lol:

BTW, that little article talks about LACING marijuana with **** like acid and LSD, drugs in COMBINATION. not JUST marijuana.

SeanDog123

It talks about heightened risk of cannabis triggered psychosis amongst those genetically predisposed schizophrenia.

Until we isolate the gene, there's no way to be sure whether you are predisposed or not, even if you were in favour of DNA testing yourself.

do you know how low the percentage is for marijuana? like 2%. waaaay lower then cigarettes. but hey, IMO, you're the only biased one here. in no way, shape, or form, am i condoning marijuana usage. it is entirely up to the individual. i am just debunking myths.

positivebalance

You haven't debunked anything though.

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

positivebalance

lol - now government websites aren't legit? I would think that government websites would be required, by law, to be legit...

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

To hell with myths - for you to argue over... enjoy...

peaceoutmedusa

Those "government" websites have medical doctors and researchers at their disposal, so unless you can disprove the basis of what they said, then you really have no case.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] That's pretty interesting. Have you got a link?jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

any my source wasn't legit? :lol:

BTW, that little article talks about LACING marijuana with **** like acid and LSD, drugs in COMBINATION. not JUST marijuana.

positivebalance

It talks about heightened risk of cannabis triggered psychosis amongst those genetically predisposed schizophrenia.

That's not at all what the article says, but leaving the article to one side, you're right about some strains being more psychologically harmful than others - paraoia is a very common side effect of smoking sativa strains, and psychosis seems to be little more than intense chronic paranoia, so smoking indica strains would presumably be safer.

That website didn't even say anything really bad about marijuana also it was the government who told the public that marijuana got you addicted to heroin, and then when people realised it wasn't true they changed their story and said it will make you drop out of school. I'm not making this up.

Brainkiller05

Not necessarily that I doubt you, but I would think that a follower of the FSM would at least link some sources.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

do you know how low the percentage is for marijuana? like 2%. waaaay lower then cigarettes. but hey, IMO, you're the only biased one here. in no way, shape, or form, am i condoning marijuana usage. it is entirely up to the individual. i am just debunking myths.

SeanDog123

Please debunk some positive myths about Marijuana if you arn't biased. You're quick to say everything bad about it is untrue, but you haven't said anything about the positive myths.

This line of thinking is acceptable if we also accept that the OP's "debunking" is incorrect as marijuana affects everyone differently.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="SeanDog123"] http://www.alternet.org/drugs/142121/more_evidence_that_marijuana_prevents_cancer/ I'm not sure if this is the story I originally read, but it's basically the same thing.

SeanDog123

Isolated non-psychoactive cannabinoid tablets for example? ;) Nah, that's no fun, is it?

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

positivebalance

But the sources for the article are completely legit. Check the bottom, it says: "National Institute on Drug Abuse", then notes a few scientists, neuro psychology studies and people that have actually studied this. You can't possibly be trying to say they are wrong?

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"]

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] No it doesn't :|

It talks about heightened risk of cannabis triggered psychosis amongst those genetically predisposed schizophrenia.

jimmyjammer69

Until we isolate the gene, there's no way to be sure whether you are predisposed or not, even if you were in favour of DNA testing yourself.

Okay - let's try this one - the CDC / US Surgeon General's take on it... it's an old article, but if government sources ruffle your feathers too much then maybe professional healthcare providers and the foremost Authorities on public health in America are more reliable...

Oh look, this thread....again....

Look I think Marijuana should be legalized and regulated, but posting about it on GameSpot isn't going to change anything and this will likely lead to a debate between the both extreme sides "ZOMG MARIJUANA WILL SOLVE ALL OF LIFES PROBLEMS" vs "ZOMG JUST THINKINNG ABOUT MARIJUANA WILL KILL YOU".

It's not the weed, it's the people smoking it. Half my school is composed of druggies, and they all think their ****ing badasses cuz they do, acting like their all cool.

But then again, what's GOOD about it? Your lighting a plant on fire...in your mouth. Stupidest crap I've ever heard of.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] Interesting read. Bookmarked for dissection later :P Both the article and the paper are hasty to repeat that findings are inconclusive, but I don't doubt that some cannabinoids have medically beneficial effects. The real problem is isolating those from the less desirable elements. I'm firmly behind cannabis research for medicine, but smoking a joint to prevent cancer is like taking a mallet to crack a peanut.jimmyjammer69

Isolated non-psychoactive cannabinoid tablets for example? ;) Nah, that's no fun, is it?

[QUOTE="positivebalance"]

[QUOTE="67gt500"]

To hell with myths - here are some facts for you to argue over... enjoy...

calvinsora

But the sources for the article are completely legit. Check the bottom, it says: "National Institute on Drug Abuse", then notes a few scientists, neuro psychology studies and people that have actually studied this. You can't possibly be trying to say they are wrong?

Now dont get me wrong, there are ways for the government make numbers look a certain way if they want to if you know what I mean. But youre right, all of the information that they have is not as subbjective as one would think, because it does deal with good statistical evidence and research.

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

That website didn't even say anything really bad about marijuana also it was the government who told the public that marijuana got you addicted to heroin, and then when people realised it wasn't true they changed their story and said it will make you drop out of school. I'm not making this up.

metroidfood

Not necessarily that I doubt you, but I would think that a follower of the FSM would at least link some sources.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] Yeah, but that means that if you aren't genetically predisposed to schizophrenia, it can't cause it.

SeanDog123

Until we isolate the gene, there's no way to be sure whether you are predisposed or not, even if you were in favour of DNA testing yourself.

For what it's worth, I'm not just spouting this for the hell of it but because I've had to work with the fallout. I agree that it's a pretty small percentage at risk and for most people it's relatively harmless fun. Family history is a great indicator that you shouldn't be smoking, but due to the stigma surrounding mental illness and our often limited knowledge of our extended families' medical records, it's often difficult to know whether a relative isn't/wasn't a sufferer or also predisposed.

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

Until we isolate the gene, there's no way to be sure whether you are predisposed or not, even if you were in favour of DNA testing yourself.

jimmyjammer69

For what it's worth, I'm not just spouting this for the hell of it but because I've had to work with the fallout. I agree that it's a pretty small percentage at risk and for most people it's relatively harmless fun. Family history is a great indicator that you shouldn't be smoking, but due to the stigma surrounding mental illness and our often limited knowledge of our extended families' medical records, it's often difficult to know whether a relative isn't/wasn't a sufferer or also predisposed.

The government have been funding studies for decades, trying their hardest to find even the slightest bit of proof marijuana is harmful but they're failing miserably and the public are slowly realising it's harmless.

(well not harmless, obviously) but there's plenty of things that are a LOT more harmful but perfectly legal.

Also to add to my previous post:

"thats the reason they gave in the 80's, it's really all because of racism concerning mexicans in the early 20th century because they smoked cannabis and called it "marijuana".
In the 30's and 40's it was illegal because "it made you crazy"
the reason really changes every decade or so"

That's a post I just saw on another forum, I completely forget about how racism played a roll in the government spreading the lies about marijuana and it's effects.

It's not inspected by professionals so it could contain other more harmful or addicting drugs. It's not healthy for you.

brandontwb

while i havent been a smoker for some time i can say there is nothing wrong with smoking weed once and awhile
maybe all you closed minded people will open up to new options and a different way to live your life
90% of the time i was with friends while smoking, we had a great time.
booze and cigs are legal why can't weed? people die from cancer and drunk driving, and from weed...nothing
as far as a gateway drug, yes it may be but people still make that choice to go on to harder drugs.
i've been smoking weed for 4 years and NOT ONCE have i ever wanted to do meth or coke.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]

[QUOTE="SeanDog123"] Well if there were cases of schizophrenia in your family, I would consider it more likely that you are predisposed. I've also found studies that show no link between marijuana use and schizophrenia. Please don't ask me to provide a link, it was a while ago.SeanDog123

For what it's worth, I'm not just spouting this for the hell of it but because I've had to work with the fallout. I agree that it's a pretty small percentage at risk and for most people it's relatively harmless fun. Family history is a great indicator that you shouldn't be smoking, but due to the stigma surrounding mental illness and our often limited knowledge of our extended families' medical records, it's often difficult to know whether a relative isn't/wasn't a sufferer or also predisposed.

while i havent been a smoker for some time i can say there is nothing wrong with smoking weed once and awhile
maybe all you closed minded people will open up to new options and a different way to live your life
90% of the time i was with friends while smoking, we had a great time.
booze and cigs are legal why can't weed? people die from cancer and drunk driving, and from weed...nothing
as far as a gateway drug, yes it may be but people still make that choice to go on to harder drugs.
i've been smoking weed for 4 years and NOT ONCE have i ever wanted to do meth or coke.

GC4ever

Someone who chooses to NOT smoke weed does not mean they are close-minded.

I don't smoke weed and I have fun with friends 100% of the time which beats your 90%.