Name something or someone that identifies your country...

[QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

[QUOTE="double_decker"]Trees, water, dirt, the sun, clouds....double_decker

The world isn't a country.

Those are things I saw while looking out my window know it all, so obviously they are in my country... Jackass:|

The question is about what identifies your country, so something that nearly every country has isn't really anything that identifies it. So you my friend are the Jackass :| :| :| :|

Moron.

[QUOTE="Apenoot"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
LJS9502_basic

Actually......no. We don't.

Because we have lower percentages of murder, drug abuse, rape, and general crime? Because we actually THINK before sending our militairy to other countries? Because the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar? Because we are more democratic? Because our average wellfare level is higher than yours?

Every country should be more like the Netherlands :D

Only countries that top us would be Sweden and some others.

The question is about what identifies your country, so something that nearly every country has isn't really anything that identifies it. So you my friend are the Jackass :| :| :| :|

Moron.

Marx_Brother

And obviously you are too stupid to notice sarcasm, I posted something to describe my country before that post, Jackass:|

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
LJS9502_basic

Actually......no. We don't.

yes......you do

I was quoted......:( LJS9502_basic

Me too, by a moron that is too lazy to read through all the posts and who is too dumb to pick up on sarcasm:(

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Apenoot"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
Lilac_Benjie

Actually......no. We don't.

Because we have lower percentages of murder, drug abuse, rape, and general crime? Because we actually THINK before sending our militairy to other countries? Because the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar? Because we are more democratic? Because our average wellfare level is higher than yours?

Every country should be more like the Netherlands :D

Only countries that top us would be Sweden and some others.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I don't need you to recite facts you feel about your country. Americans don't concern themselves with the Netherlands at all. His statement was incorrect. Settle down.Lilac_Benjie

So you finally admit I'm correct.  Took you long enough.  By the way brave and free =/= same thing.  As I said in another post....if Americans wanted those particular freedoms then we'd have them.  Both groups are minorities and as such, until the majority wants a change it will remain.  If what your are referring to as freedom isn't sought......then one is not less free.:wink:

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Apenoot"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
Lilac_Benjie

Actually......no. We don't.

Because we have lower percentages of murder, drug abuse, rape, and general crime? Because we actually THINK before sending our militairy to other countries? Because the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar? Because we are more democratic? Because our average wellfare level is higher than yours?

Every country should be more like the Netherlands :D

Only countries that top us would be Sweden and some others.

 I pity the people who don't want it, because they obviously have no idea what they're talking about. Legalization of drugs fights the crime that comes with it and prevents the spread of blood bound viruses through sharing needles. Homosexuality is completely natural as it happens throughout the entire animal kingdom.-Karayan-

It is what it is.....but that does not mean Americans walk around envious of the Netherlands.  I'm sure it's a beautiful country.....just one that Americans don't compare themselves to...which was my point.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I was quoted......:( double_decker

Me too, by a moron that is too lazy to read through all the posts and who is too dumb to pick up on sarcasm:(

If gas prices are any indication, then America has it pretty good compared to Europe jim_shorts

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]If gas prices are any indication, then America has it pretty good compared to Europe Lilac_Benjie

Hey you edited out the part about us having gas:o

[QUOTE="Apenoot"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
LJS9502_basic

Actually......no.  We don't.

Because we have lower percentages of murder, drug abuse, rape, and general crime? Because we actually THINK before sending our militairy to other countries? Because the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar? Because we are more democratic? Because our average wellfare level is higher than yours?

Every country should be more like the Netherlands :D

Only countries that top us would be Sweden and some others.

As if you have any right whatsoever to tell me not to post something :roll:

If Americans would look at countries like the Netherlands more, life would improve for (nearly) all of you. It doesn't matter if it goes against some conservative, stuck up norms and values of some Americans. Just because some are against gay marriage and legalization of weed doesn't mean that allowing them regardless improves wellfare for the country as a whole.

As for the statement.. obviously not every American feels like it so in that sense you are right. But it's sad you consider that a good thing. Open your eyes man, there's more to this world than America 

Perhaps you are missing the point. An identifying mark is [QUOTE="Marx_Brother"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Marx_Brother"]

Winston Churchill.

Next....

LukeAF24

What would you say then?

I've noticed an increase in new posters.........not for the better either.LJS9502_basic

Yeah, last night was really bad. Spam, ebonics, porn talk all rolled up into one headache filled romper room:|

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I don't need you to recite facts you feel about your country. Americans don't concern themselves with the Netherlands at all. His statement was incorrect. Settle down.Apenoot

As if you have any right whatsoever to tell me not to post something :roll:

If Americans would look at countries like the Netherlands more, life would improve for (nearly) all of you. It doesn't matter if it goes against some conservative, stuck up norms and values of some Americans. Just because some are against gay marriage and legalization of weed doesn't mean that allowing them regardless improves wellfare for the country as a whole.

As for the statement.. obviously not every American feels like it so in that sense you are right. But it's sad you consider that a good thing. Open your eyes man, there's more to this world than America 

Uh....I didn't tell you not to post.  I said you didn't have to recite a list.  There is a difference.:|

As I've stated in several threads......apparently the majority of Americans do NOT want those issues.  It does not make them less free....just different.

I made no statement as to personal preference.  Please leave emotion out of discussions.  I'm quite neutral in this thread and dispassionate.  I was simply responding to his illogical claim that Americans wished to be like the Netherlands.  It isn't true.  Settle down dude.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

I've noticed an increase in new posters.........not for the better either.double_decker

Yeah, last night was really bad. Spam, ebonics, porn talk all rolled up into one headache filled romper room:|

Isn't that what the OT is all about?  It sure seems like it as of late.jim_shorts

Yeah, which is why I usually hide in RC, but sometimes I come out of it to make sure nobody needs any help

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

Isn't that what the OT is all about?  It sure seems like it as of late.double_decker

Yeah, which is why I usually hide in RC, but sometimes I come out of it to make sure nobody needs any help

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

Isn't that what the OT is all about?  It sure seems like it as of late.double_decker

Yeah, which is why I usually hide in RC, but sometimes I come out of it to make sure nobody needs any help

 I usually don't go in RC....LJS9502_basic

I know, you're the Iron Man, you come in daiy to school the masses in debate8)

Uh....I didn't tell you not to post.  I said you didn't have to recite a list.  There is a difference young padawan.

As I've stated in several threads......apparently the majority of Americans do NOT want those issues.  It does not make them less free....just different.

I made to statement as to personal preference.  Please leave emotion out of discussions.  I'm quite neutral in this thread....and dispassionate.  I was simply responding to his illogical claim that Americans wished to be like the Netherlands.  It isn't true.  Settle down dude.

LJS9502_basic

That 'claim the Americans want to be more like the Dutch' is based on nothing. He typed Wish in italic, he meant it as in 'they should want to wish for it'. Also I don't see why you don't just type 'Americans don't want to be like the Netherlands so this whole point is irrelevant though what you say might be true' instead of telling me to 'settle down' and calling me 'young padawan'. It makes you sound like a know-it-all. And I already said you were right about Americans not wanting to be like the Dutch... I just said that's a sad thing born from ignorance.

need help?jim_shorts

Yeah, as in people who hae a legitimate problem that I might be able to help with, etc. I usually try and avoid the pointless threads with people posting random, repetitive garbage just trying to get successful threads:|

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

need help?double_decker

Yeah, as in people who hae a legitimate problem that I might be able to help with, etc. I usually try and avoid the pointless threads with people posting random, repetitive garbage just trying to get successful threads:|

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Uh....I didn't tell you not to post.  I said you didn't have to recite a list.  There is a difference young padawan.

As I've stated in several threads......apparently the majority of Americans do NOT want those issues.  It does not make them less free....just different.

I made to statement as to personal preference.  Please leave emotion out of discussions.  I'm quite neutral in this thread....and dispassionate.  I was simply responding to his illogical claim that Americans wished to be like the Netherlands.  It isn't true.  Settle down dude.

Apenoot

That 'claim the Americans want to be more like the Dutch' is based on nothing. He typed Wish in italic, he meant it as in 'they should want to wish for it'. Also I don't see why you don't just type 'Americans don't want to be like the Netherlands so this whole point is irrelevant though what you say might be true' instead of telling me to 'settle down' and calling me 'young padawan'. It makes you sound like a know-it-all. And I already said you were right about Americans not wanting to be like the Dutch... I just said that's a sad thing born from ignorance.

religion and politics threads always get me.  I just can't help it.jim_shorts

Yeah, LJS likes those ones too along with music threads, I tend to avoid those

That 'claim the Americans want to be more like the Dutch' is based on nothing. He typed Wish in italic, he meant it as in 'they should want to wish for it'. Also I don't see why you don't just type 'Americans don't want to be like the Netherlands so this whole point is irrelevant though what you say might be true' instead of telling me to 'settle down' and calling me 'young padawan'. It makes you sound like a know-it-all. And I already said you were right about Americans not wanting to be like the Dutch... I just said that's a sad thing born from ignorance.

Apenoot

I wasn't aware the Dutch were so arrogant.  Just because something works for your country does not mean it does for all others.  You are aware of what wish means....aren't you?  You need to settle down......you got involved in a discussion which wasn't yours to begin with.  Ignorance is your generalization.  Read my second sentence again.

instead of telling me to 'settle down' and calling me 'young padawan'. It makes you sound like a know-it-all.

Apenoot

He does know it all:o

OT rule #32  Never debate with LJS.  He will win every time.  And it looks like he already has here.jim_shorts

No he doesn't. He reasons like my parents do, making things too complicated, and using logic when it suits him but ignoring other ppls points if he can't rebuff them. Just take a close look at how he reasons.

Just because he is well known here doesn't mean he knows it all and is always right.

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]OT rule #32  Never debate with LJS.  He will win every time.  And it looks like he already has here.Apenoot

No he doesn't. He reasons like my parents do, making things too complicated, and using logic when it suits him but ignoring other ppls points if he can't rebuff them. Just take a close look at how he reasons.

Just because he is well known here doesn't mean he knows it all and is always right.

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]OT rule #32  Never debate with LJS.  He will win every time.  And it looks like he already has here.Apenoot

No he doesn't. He reasons like my parents do, making things too complicated, and using logic when it suits him but ignoring other ppls points if he can't rebuff them. Just take a close look at how he reasons.

Just because he is well known here doesn't mean he knows it all and is always right.

I use logic.....just because you don't understand it does not mean I don't use it.  You bring in extraneous issues and try to use them to win.  It doesn't work that way.  I've proven your statement wrong.  That's it....you fail.  I wasn't known here when I first started posting....so there must be a reason I am.  Hmmm....failure number two for you.

I wasn't aware the Dutch were so arrogant.  Just because something works for your country does not mean it does for all others.  You are aware of what wish means....aren't you?  You need to settle down......you got involved in a discussion which wasn't yours to begin with.  Ignorance is your generalization.  Read my second sentence again.LJS9502_basic

Too bad you're calling the Dutch (including me) arrogant, based on your opinion of one user.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I wasn't aware the Dutch were so arrogant.  Just because something works for your country does not mean it does for all others.  You are aware of what wish means....aren't you?  You need to settle down......you got involved in a discussion which wasn't yours to begin with.  Ignorance is your generalization.  Read my second sentence again.dayzee23

Too bad you're calling the Dutch (including me) arrogant, based on your opinion of one user.

I wasn't aware the Dutch were so arrogant.  Just because something works for your country does not mean it does for all others.  You are aware of what wish means....aren't you?  You need to settle down......you got involved in a discussion which wasn't yours to begin with.  Ignorance is your generalization.  Read my second sentence again.LJS9502_basic

*sigh*

Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands= Americans could only hope their country was as free as the Netherlands. That's how the poster meant it. Maybe now you understand other ppls point.

Just because something works for your country does not mean it does for all others. = We are both from the same ancestors, we have the same kind of culture. Just because Americans are afraid of soft-drug legalization doesn't mean it won't work. The Dutch have PROVEN it works, seeing that we have a lower percentage of drug addicts and drug-related crime than practically any country in the world

You are aware of what wish means....aren't you? = not only that, but I can put it into context, apparantly unlike you

you got involved in a discussion which wasn't yours to begin with = calling me arrogant... then typing this. It's an open discussion board, I can say whatever I feel like and get involved whenever I want. If you can't live with that fact, you shouldn't be on a forum.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
Apenoot

Actually......no. We don't.

Because we have lower percentages of murder, drug abuse, rape, and general crime? Because we actually THINK before sending our militairy to other countries? Because the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar? Because we are more democratic? Because our average wellfare level is higher than yours?

Every country should be more like the Netherlands :D

Only countries that top us would be Sweden and some others.

I use logic.....just because you don't understand it does not mean I don't use it.  You bring in extraneous issues and try to use them to win.  It doesn't work that way.  I've proven your statement wrong.  That's it....you fail.  I wasn't known here when I first started posting....so there must be a reason I am.  Hmmm....failure number two for you.LJS9502_basic

I don't bring in any extraneous issues to 'win' a discussion. Just because you keep telling everyone you've 'proven their statement wrong' doesn't mean this is the case. If you would actually read my posts, you'd see that I already agreed with you that Americans don't think about the NL's at all... I merely said that's a sad fact. So your first 'win' is not a first win at all since I agreed with you on that point from the start.

And it doesn't matter how often you were right in the past, or what the reason is for being well-known... you can still be wrong. Thinking otherwise is extremely arrogant. Nobody is always right. I don't think it's a failure for me if you think you are always right because nobody is.

I also notice how you often yell 'you fail' or 'Ive proven you wrong!' My suggestion is to let others judge that. Most of the time those calls come out of nothing anyways.

[QUOTE="Apenoot"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Lilac_Benjie"]
The real Land of the Free.
Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands. So do I, actually.
MeanQuestion

Actually......no. We don't.

Because we have lower percentages of murder, drug abuse, rape, and general crime? Because we actually THINK before sending our militairy to other countries? Because the Euro is a stronger currency than the dollar? Because we are more democratic? Because our average wellfare level is higher than yours?

Every country should be more like the Netherlands :D

Only countries that top us would be Sweden and some others.

I have no desire for soft drug legalization. Congradulations on making it work! Want a cookie now? If America wanted soft drug legalization we could have it, but the majority do not want that. As LJ has been trying to pound into your head. We don't want that, you do. It's good you are free, so are we. I doubt your country is perfect, none is.double_decker

It's funny how nobody reads my posts. I already agreed from my first post on that America doesn't want to be like the Dutch.

*sigh*

Americans wish that their country was as free as the Netherlands= Americans could only hope their country was as free as the Netherlands. That's how the poster meant it. Maybe now you understand other ppls point.

Just because something works for your country does not mean it does for all others. = We are both from the same ancestors, we have the same kind of culture. Just because Americans are afraid of soft-drug legalization doesn't mean it won't work. The Dutch have PROVEN it works, seeing that we have a lower percentage of drug addicts and drug-related crime than practically any country in the world

You are aware of what wish means....aren't you? = not only that, but I can put it into context, apparantly unlike you

you got involved in a discussion which wasn't yours to begin with = calling me arrogant... then typing this. It's an open discussion board, I can say whatever I feel like and get involved whenever I want. If you can't live with that fact, you shouldn't be on a forum.

Apenoot

You may sigh all you want but my initial point still stands. Why don't you get that?  It's not that hard of a concept.  Actually.....no.  Americans don't....wish they were like the Netherlands.  Period....end of discussion....Just because you don't understand the sentence does not make your argument correct.  I stated clearly that he was incorrect and he was.  Why continue this argument?  You can't win it.

Americans do not want ANY drugs legalized at this time.  Again....end of discussion.  If the majority of Americans felt strongly for this it would occur.  They do not.  Most are against it.  Therefore, it is not legal.  Why continue this argument?  You can't win it.

Wish...well I've responded several time to what that sentence he made said.  Again...wish, want, desire...still as I stated above...Americans do not wish to be like your country.  Why continue this argument?  You can't win it.

I called you arrogant because you are trying to tell Americans what Americans want.  That is arrogance.  You got involved and rather worked up about a discussion that wasn't between you and I.  As you stated....I can also respond to you if I like....if you don't like or can't deal with then perhaps it's you that should not be on the forum.  Or at least not posting with me.  Why continue this argument?  You can't win.

I responded to each statement you made.  Now you can continue to sigh....but you've failed again.

That post deserves a slow clap.  You just summed up what we have been trying to say.jim_shorts

Then why didn't you?

[QUOTE="-Karayan-"] I pity the people who don't want it, because they obviously have no idea what they're talking about. Legalization of drugs fights the crime that comes with it and prevents the spread of blood bound viruses through sharing needles. Homosexuality is completely natural as it happens throughout the entire animal kingdom.LJS9502_basic

It is what it is.....but that does not mean Americans walk around envious of the Netherlands. I'm sure it's a beautiful country.....just one that Americans don't compare themselves to...which was my point.

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]That post deserves a slow clap.  You just summed up what we have been trying to say.Apenoot

Then why didn't you?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] I use logic.....just because you don't understand it does not mean I don't use it.  You bring in extraneous issues and try to use them to win.  It doesn't work that way.  I've proven your statement wrong.  That's it....you fail.  I wasn't known here when I first started posting....so there must be a reason I am.  Hmmm....failure number two for you.Apenoot

I don't bring in any extraneous issues to 'win' a discussion. Just because you keep telling everyone you've 'proven their statement wrong' doesn't mean this is the case. If you would actually read my posts, you'd see that I already agreed with you that Americans don't think about the NL's at all... I merely said that's a sad fact. So your first 'win' is not a first win at all since I agreed with you on that point from the start.

And it doesn't matter how often you were right in the past, or what the reason is for being well-known... you can still be wrong. Thinking otherwise is extremely arrogant. Nobody is always right. I don't think it's a failure for me if you think you are always right because nobody is.

I also notice how you often yell 'you fail' or 'Ive proven you wrong!' My suggestion is to let others judge that. Most of the time those calls come out of nothing anyways.

I've proven you wrong more than once.....you just don't get it.  Where did I say I was always right?  I've answered every point you make and yet you still argue.  I only tell those that don't get it they failed.  If they can pick up the fact that I've answered them to the contrary....I don't have to tell them.  But when they ...and here I mean you...don't get it I do have to point it out to them.

OT rule #32  Never debate with LJS.  He will win every time.  And it looks like he already has here.

jim_shorts

You utter suck-up.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="-Karayan-"] I pity the people who don't want it, because they obviously have no idea what they're talking about. Legalization of drugs fights the crime that comes with it and prevents the spread of blood bound viruses through sharing needles. Homosexuality is completely natural as it happens throughout the entire animal kingdom.-Karayan-

It is what it is.....but that does not mean Americans walk around envious of the Netherlands. I'm sure it's a beautiful country.....just one that Americans don't compare themselves to...which was my point.

Or...perhaps we don't want those things and think the Netherlands has....well the ignorant.

[QUOTE="jim_shorts"]

OT rule #32  Never debate with LJS.  He will win every time.  And it looks like he already has here.

Marx_Brother

You utter suck-up.

It's funny how nobody reads my posts. I already agreed from my first post on that America doesn't want to be like the Dutch.

Apenoot

I read your post, and you calling us "sad" because we don't think about NL alot? We don't think about NL alot because we are happy with the country we are in. I have nothing against any country, but I also don't appreciate someone trying to make me feel bad or ignorant just because I don't share thier same beliefs. I respect yours, I hope you respect my decisions and leave it at that:|