Nearly Half of MS Republicans Believe Interracial Marriage Should be Illegal

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#151 YellowOneKinobi
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And that is why I don't vote for republicans who run based on "social conversativism"

How hard is it to stay out of other peoples lives? :|

UnknownSniper65

I'm confused. You vote for democrats because they "stay out of peoples lives?"

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#152 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

And that is why I don't vote for republicans who run based on "social conversativism"

How hard is it to stay out of other peoples lives? :|

YellowOneKinobi

I'm confused. You vote for democrats because they "stay out of peoples lives?"

I tend to vote Libertarian and Independent actually.

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#153 Espada12
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46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

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#154 YellowOneKinobi
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

And that is why I don't vote for republicans who run based on "social conversativism"

How hard is it to stay out of other peoples lives? :|

UnknownSniper65

I'm confused. You vote for democrats because they "stay out of peoples lives?"

I tend to vote Libertarian and Independent actually.

Oh, ok. Gotcha.

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#155 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Wow, they surveyed a WHOLE 400 people?

HoolaHoopMan
Do you know how statistics work? You don't need an enormous sample size in order for it to be accurate. Attacking the poll size is a clear sign of,

You can also get any answer you want out of a poll due to the wording of the poll.
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#156 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

Espada12

Shhh, quiet. Don't let them know.

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#157 surrealnumber5
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46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

Espada12

low sample size, notso varied sample demographic, either this poll was in its self a statistical anomaly or it was engineered to get this outcome.

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#158 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

Wow, they surveyed a WHOLE 400 people?

LJS9502_basic

Do you know how statistics work? You don't need an enormous sample size in order for it to be accurate. Attacking the poll size is a clear sign of,

You can also get any answer you want out of a poll due to the wording of the poll.

do you think entitlements should be cut? Q1: do you like killing old people? Q2: do you think the fed needs to get its spending under control?

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#159 UnknownSniper65
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

surrealnumber5

low sample size, notso varied sample demographic, either this poll was in its self a statistical anomaly or it was engineered to get this outcome.

Very true possibility, It would have been interesting to see what a more extensive poll would have resulted in. I would guess the numbers would be substantially slanted the other way. Given the fact that they only polled 400 people makes me take this poll with a grain of salt. You're always going to get a percentage of people who are behind the times socially.

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#160 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

And that is why I don't vote for republicans who run based on "social conversativism"

How hard is it to stay out of other peoples lives? :|

YellowOneKinobi

I'm confused. You vote for democrats because they "stay out of peoples lives?"

I know where this was going to lead.

Yes, this is one of the main reasons why people vote democrat.

In private matters, liberals/democrats stay out of your life.

In fiscal matters, conservatives/republicans stay out of your life.

So really, if you say that x party stays out of your life, you're technically correct, but it really matters what you define "staying out of your life" as.

I define staying out of my life as staying out of my private matters, which is why I tend to vote liberal.

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#161 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

surrealnumber5

low sample size, notso varied sample demographic, either this poll was in its self a statistical anomaly or it was engineered to get this outcome.

'Ad hominem', is that the correct term I am using?

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

tenaka2

low sample size, notso varied sample demographic, either this poll was in its self a statistical anomaly or it was engineered to get this outcome.

'Ad hominem', is that the correct term I am using?

No.

Not at all.

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Nice..way to extrapolate Mississippi to the rest of the country...... :| though I'm not suprised with your posting history... anyway..older generation people from mississippi......who knew they were racist....wierd...
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#164 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] low sample size, notso varied sample demographic, either this poll was in its self a statistical anomaly or it was engineered to get this outcome.

jaydough

'Ad hominem', is that the correct term I am using?

No.

Not at all.

I'v got my terminology incorrect or this isn't an example?

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#165 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

And that is why I don't vote for republicans who run based on "social conversativism"

How hard is it to stay out of other peoples lives? :|

jaydough

I'm confused. You vote for democrats because they "stay out of peoples lives?"

I know where this was going to lead.

Yes, this is one of the main reasons why people vote democrat.

In private matters, liberals/democrats stay out of your life.

In fiscal matters, conservatives/republicans stay out of your life.

So really, if you say that x party stays out of your life, you're technically correct, but it really matters what you define "staying out of your life" as.

I define staying out of my life as staying out of my private matters, which is why I tend to vote liberal.

Nah...neither party stays out of lives.
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#166 edinsftw
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Wut? The only person i ever met who thought that was one of my friends grandpas, he was also racist.

Otherwise ive never even met someone who thought that, and i live in arizona where a vast majority is republican.

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#167 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

'Ad hominem', is that the correct term I am using?

tenaka2

No.

Not at all.

I'v got my terminology incorrect or this isn't an example?

This isn't an example.

An ad hominem is outright attacking the person presenting the idea rather than addressing the idea.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"] I'm confused. You vote for democrats because they "stay out of peoples lives?"

LJS9502_basic

I know where this was going to lead.

Yes, this is one of the main reasons why people vote democrat.

In private matters, liberals/democrats stay out of your life.

In fiscal matters, conservatives/republicans stay out of your life.

So really, if you say that x party stays out of your life, you're technically correct, but it really matters what you define "staying out of your life" as.

I define staying out of my life as staying out of my private matters, which is why I tend to vote liberal.

Nah...neither party stays out of lives.

Well, yeah, hence why i put liberal/conservative before the party name. I was more going by what they promise to do, rather than what they do.

If I was going to say what they actually do, I'd say essentially that Republicans want to basically steal from the poor and give to the rich, and the Democrats want to steal from the rich to give to the rich or whatever it is.

I'm exaggerating of course, but w/e.

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Hey see, see I have proof to my claim now. There's someone who mistook the two right here.Nibroc420

is this about bestiality?

:o Racist.

I believe you mean speciest (speciesist?). :P

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#170 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

46 to 65 - 36%

Older than 65 - 32%

Mississippi.......... very conservative...

Just put this together and understand why that result ended the way it did. I bet if they asked more younger than older people this whole survey would go in another direction.

tenaka2

low sample size, notso varied sample demographic, either this poll was in its self a statistical anomaly or it was engineered to get this outcome.

'Ad hominem', is that the correct term I am using?

depends on the context of the term, if you are using it to describe me, i cant make that call, if you are using it to describe the poll and/or its use here that would be correct.

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#171 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] No.

Not at all.

jaydough

I'v got my terminology incorrect or this isn't an example?

This isn't an example.

An ad hominem is outright attacking the person presenting the idea rather than addressing the idea.

it is appealing to ones interests, ideals, or feelings rather than their intellect

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#172 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I'v got my terminology incorrect or this isn't an example?

surrealnumber5

This isn't an example.

An ad hominem is outright attacking the person presenting the idea rather than addressing the idea.

it is appealing to ones interests, ideals, or feelings rather than their intellect

According to the Wikipedia

An ad hominem... is an attempt to link the validity of a premise to a characteristic or belief of the person advocating the premise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I think what you're thinking of is just called an appeal to emotion.

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#173 EasyStreet
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Why is this even news?

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#175 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] This isn't an example.

An ad hominem is outright attacking the person presenting the idea rather than addressing the idea.

jaydough

it is appealing to ones interests, ideals, or feelings rather than their intellect

According to the Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I think what you're thinking of is just called an appeal to emotion.

TC presented this to us because it is in-line with his political view it did not mater the validity of it. he used it not because it was intellectually honest but because it affirmed his position. TC is using this poll to attack the republican party even though when examined the poll seems dubious at best.

though my assertions about the source may also qualify my stance as similar for different reasons as even if the data is questionable that does not remove it from the "table" so to speak.

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#176 With-Hatred
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I'm white and I wouldn't want to live there, sounds like half the population is uneducated white trash, who would want to live with that?

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#177 Ikouze
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This can't be real. 70% have a favourable opinion of Palin? Also how can 14% not be sure whether they think interracial marriage should be legal. Clearly 54% of the people polled thought it said homosexual marriage. That's got to be it...Ace6301

They be trollin'

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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] it is appealing to ones interests, ideals, or feelings rather than their intellect

surrealnumber5

According to the Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I think what you're thinking of is just called an appeal to emotion.

TC presented this to us because it is in-line with his political view it did not mater the validity of it. he used it not because it was intellectually honest but because it affirmed his position. TC is using this poll to attack the republican party even though when examined the poll seems dubious at best.

though my assertions about the source may also qualify my stance as similar for different reasons as even if the data is questionable that does not remove it from the "table" so to speak.

AH. My apoligies, I thought he was trying to refute the person he quoted.

Also, yeah, take Theo's news threads with a hint of salt. IIRC, he's a fellow redditor, and reddit tends to be a bad source of news unless you read through the comments.

Better than most, but we still have the habbit of whistleblowing a bit early.

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#179 redstorm72
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To be fair, a lot of republicans are very old and are grandparents. We all know grandparents can get away with racism.

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#180 Netherscourge
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I honestly believe they confused interracial marriage for gay marriage when they cast their vote in that poll.

At least, I sure as hell hope so...

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#181 psychobrew
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I would bet many white MS democrats would believe the same thing.
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#182 kayoticdreamz
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obvious slander is obvious seriously folks? seriously? is this really a serious attempt by liberals to paint conservatives as evil? the main point of why this is pure BS is we interviewed older people who came from an age where blacks were second class citizens and couldnt even drink from the white man water fountain. and we are shocked they are opposed to interracial marriage? seriously folks? this is nothing more than a cheap attempt to blast conservatives as good ol hate mongers when all they did was interview people who have grown up hating blacks which leads to an obvious result in the poll. sorry the cheap attempt here fails.
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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="jaydough"] According to the Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

I think what you're thinking of is just called an appeal to emotion.

jaydough

TC presented this to us because it is in-line with his political view it did not mater the validity of it. he used it not because it was intellectually honest but because it affirmed his position. TC is using this poll to attack the republican party even though when examined the poll seems dubious at best.

though my assertions about the source may also qualify my stance as similar for different reasons as even if the data is questionable that does not remove it from the "table" so to speak.

AH. My apoligies, I thought he was trying to refute the person he quoted.

Also, yeah, take Theo's news threads with a hint of salt. IIRC, he's a fellow redditor, and reddit tends to be a bad source of news unless you read through the comments.

Better than most, but we still have the habbit of whistleblowing a bit early.

I've never used Reddit, actually.
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#184 bbkkristian
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I don't believe that.

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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] TC presented this to us because it is in-line with his political view it did not mater the validity of it. he used it not because it was intellectually honest but because it affirmed his position. TC is using this poll to attack the republican party even though when examined the poll seems dubious at best.

though my assertions about the source may also qualify my stance as similar for different reasons as even if the data is questionable that does not remove it from the "table" so to speak.

Theokhoth

AH. My apoligies, I thought he was trying to refute the person he quoted.

Also, yeah, take Theo's news threads with a hint of salt. IIRC, he's a fellow redditor, and reddit tends to be a bad source of news unless you read through the comments.

Better than most, but we still have the habbit of whistleblowing a bit early.

I've never used Reddit, actually.

OH. My bad.

Where do you get your news?

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#186 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="jaydough"] AH. My apoligies, I thought he was trying to refute the person he quoted.

Also, yeah, take Theo's news threads with a hint of salt. IIRC, he's a fellow redditor, and reddit tends to be a bad source of news unless you read through the comments.

Better than most, but we still have the habbit of whistleblowing a bit early.

jaydough

I've never used Reddit, actually.

OH. My bad.

Where do you get your news?

Lots of places.
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#187 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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Lots of places.Theokhoth
So, do you have like, an RSS feed of Huffpo and DailyKos?

Because that's basically what reddit is.

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The fact that we live in the same country as those people greatly upsets me.
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#189 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Lots of places.jaydough

So, do you have like, an RSS feed of Huffpo and DailyKos?

Because that's basically what reddit is.

I don't use RSS feeds either.
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#190 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="jaydough"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Lots of places.Theokhoth
So, do you have like, an RSS feed of Huffpo and DailyKos? Because that's basically what reddit is.

I don't use RSS feeds either.

So do you just have a thousand tabs open on every news source at all times, intermittently refreshing each one?
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]Lots of places.Theokhoth

So, do you have like, an RSS feed of Huffpo and DailyKos?

Because that's basically what reddit is.

I don't use RSS feeds either.

Bookmarks to Huffpo, Dailykos, jimmyr, whatehaveyou?

THE METHODOLOGY DOESN'T MATTER

THE POINT IS, is it like, dailykos and huffpo

but i kinda like dailykos

haet huffpo, though.

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#192 Infinite_Access
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*sigh.... I really love MS. It is a beautiful place... especially Oxford at the University. I want to be proud of it but crap like this makes me realize that the state I live in will always be looked down on as the worst place on the planet.

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#193 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="jaydough"] So, do you have like, an RSS feed of Huffpo and DailyKos?

Because that's basically what reddit is.

jaydough

I don't use RSS feeds either.

Bookmarks to Huffpo, Dailykos, jimmyr, whatehaveyou?

THE METHODOLOGY DOESN'T MATTER

THE POINT IS, is it like, dailykos and huffpo

but i kinda like dailykos

haet huffpo, though.

It's a lot of sources: New York Times, Wall Street Journal, random blogs that complain about some news story that I later google, Huffington Post, DailyKos, and so on.

And no, no bookmarks either. :P

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#194 branketra
Member since 2006 • 51726 Posts
[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]obvious slander is obvious seriously folks? seriously? is this really a serious attempt by liberals to paint conservatives as evil? the main point of why this is pure BS is we interviewed older people who came from an age where blacks were second class citizens and couldnt even drink from the white man water fountain. and we are shocked they are opposed to interracial marriage? seriously folks? this is nothing more than a cheap attempt to blast conservatives as good ol hate mongers when all they did was interview people who have grown up hating blacks which leads to an obvious result in the poll. sorry the cheap attempt here fails.

What are you saying? If they still hold the same beliefs, then they should be put on blast. After all, they are affecting on the political level. Meaning, its' laws.
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#195 00-Riddick-00
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I'm Conservative but I dont think it should be illegal.
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#196 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]obvious slander is obvious seriously folks? seriously? is this really a serious attempt by liberals to paint conservatives as evil? the main point of why this is pure BS is we interviewed older people who came from an age where blacks were second class citizens and couldnt even drink from the white man water fountain. and we are shocked they are opposed to interracial marriage? seriously folks? this is nothing more than a cheap attempt to blast conservatives as good ol hate mongers when all they did was interview people who have grown up hating blacks which leads to an obvious result in the poll. sorry the cheap attempt here fails.

What are you saying? If they still hold the same beliefs, then they should be put on blast. After all, they are affecting on the political level. Meaning, its' laws.

Holding a personal belief does not mean it's made law.....
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#197 Teenaged
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So? Do you really expect everybody of every race, religion, cultural background is going to believe in same sex marriage?

Wasdie

Wait... are you saying Greek food sucks? :|

Edit: I get it, I screwed up, let's move on.

Wasdie

Edit: Oh man me too! I am totally not overwhelemed with ethnic pride even when the discussion is not about Greek things. :D

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#198 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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[QUOTE="jaydough"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"] I don't use RSS feeds either.Theokhoth

Bookmarks to Huffpo, Dailykos, jimmyr, whatehaveyou?

THE METHODOLOGY DOESN'T MATTER

THE POINT IS, is it like, dailykos and huffpo

but i kinda like dailykos

haet huffpo, though.

It's a lot of sources: New York Times, Wall Street Journal, random blogs that complain about some news story that I later google, Huffington Post, DailyKos, and so on.

And no, no bookmarks either. :P

So basically, reddit, but in a more contrived way that somehow doesn't involve you being spoonfed your stories?

Genius.

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#199 deactivated-5e7f221e304c9
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So basically, reddit, but in a more contrived way that somehow doesn't involve you being spoonfed your stories?

Genius.

jaydough

And while we're (sort of) on the subject, can I re-iterate that Huffpo is f***ing awful?

Like, god damn it. It's half way to being a hippie version of Fox News.

Not even a liberal version, just half-baked, dangerous, psuedo-scientific quack version of Fox News.

Well, that's just Fox News, but you get the point.

BUT LIKE, YOU CAN READ WHATEVER YOU WANT, I'M NOT JUDGING YOU, I'M JUDGING THE 'PO.

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#200 branketra
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"]obvious slander is obvious seriously folks? seriously? is this really a serious attempt by liberals to paint conservatives as evil? the main point of why this is pure BS is we interviewed older people who came from an age where blacks were second class citizens and couldnt even drink from the white man water fountain. and we are shocked they are opposed to interracial marriage? seriously folks? this is nothing more than a cheap attempt to blast conservatives as good ol hate mongers when all they did was interview people who have grown up hating blacks which leads to an obvious result in the poll. sorry the cheap attempt here fails.

What are you saying? If they still hold the same beliefs, then they should be put on blast. After all, they are affecting on the political level. Meaning, its' laws.

Holding a personal belief does not mean it's made law.....

I thought they were voting on it.