New Graphics on Cigarettes

http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_16580458

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what do you all think about this. I think I'll never be able to quit smoking because I'll have to catch all 36 images... It sounds like a better game then Pokemon... Truthfully though I wish they would just leave me the **** alone... I'm sick of paying double the price for a pack because the federal tax is one dollar and the state tax is another dollar... The government shouldn't be allowed to try and make my choices for me like this... If I want to smoke it's my freedom to do so. Nothing else has such a High Tax rate on it... I could be buying a pack of Pyramids for One dollar, but no its 3 because the government sucks. 200% taxes are cool...

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I think it's idiotic. This anti-smoking stuff is getting out of hand. Either make it illegal or leave smokers alone. Anyone who smokes already knows the risks.

I think it's idiotic. This anti-smoking stuff is getting out of hand. Either make it illegal or leave smokers alone. Anyone who smokes already knows the risks.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I think it's idiotic. This anti-smoking stuff is getting out of hand. Either make it illegal or leave smokers alone. Anyone who smokes already knows the risks.

despa1r_fact0r

If you do smoke a lot, you won't really care that much. We already have these graphics on cigarette packs in Ontario, Canada. And guess what? People still buy them ;)the_ChEeSe_mAn2

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I think it's idiotic. This anti-smoking stuff is getting out of hand. Either make it illegal or leave smokers alone. Anyone who smokes already knows the risks.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I think it's idiotic. This anti-smoking stuff is getting out of hand. Either make it illegal or leave smokers alone. Anyone who smokes already knows the risks.

Pirate700

Yep. And besides, it's already illegal to sell cigarettes to kids in the first place.

I think it's idiotic. This anti-smoking stuff is getting out of hand. Either make it illegal or leave smokers alone. Anyone who smokes already knows the risks.

Pirate700

Yes, agreed 10x. I mean, why even have it be legal if you're going to put smokers through all this trouble? It's idiotic, they should just let it alone. Most everyone knows the risks by now.

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[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"] I don't think the graphics are for those who already are smoking, but for those who might not know the risk...mainly kids.despa1r_fact0r

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"] I don't think the graphics are for those who already are smoking, but for those who might not know the risk...mainly kids.MrGeezer

Yep. And besides, it's already illegal to sell cigarettes to kids in the first place.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]If you do smoke a lot, you won't really care that much. We already have these graphics on cigarette packs in Ontario, Canada. And guess what? People still buy them ;)Dark__Link

Welcome to Canada and Australia. Also, here stores aren't even allowed to advertise that they sell cigarettes or even make them visible to the public, so every convenience store with a cigarette wall or cabinet has replaced the glass with wood or curtains so you can't see a damn thing.DJ_Lae

That's ridiculous. I hate this whole anti-smoking stigma. If people want to enjoy a pack every once in a while it should be up to them, not the government.

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Welcome to Canada and Australia. Also, here stores aren't even allowed to advertise that they sell cigarettes or even make them visible to the public, so every convenience store with a cigarette wall or cabinet has replaced the glass with wood or curtains so you can't see a damn thing.psn8214

That's ridiculous. I hate this whole anti-smoking stigma. If people want to enjoy a pack every once in a while it should be up to them, not the government.

[QUOTE="Dark__Link"][QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]If you do smoke a lot, you won't really care that much. We already have these graphics on cigarette packs in Ontario, Canada. And guess what? People still buy them ;)the_ChEeSe_mAn2

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]I don't think you'll find a kid anywhere that doesn't know the risks either.

Pirate700

That's ridiculous. I hate this whole anti-smoking stigma. If people want to enjoy a pack every once in a while it should be up to them, not the government.

psn8214

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"]Sure, but sometimes kids have to see what the risk can lead to...scarring them out of smoking before they start.despa1r_fact0r

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I don't think you'll find a kid anywhere that doesn't know the risks either.

despa1r_fact0r

Yep. And besides, it's already illegal to sell cigarettes to kids in the first place.

Great. So why isn't anyone proposing similar images on bottles of liquor (a product that's actually allowed to advertise on television)?

It's not for underaged smokers who are not legally allowed to purchase the product anyway. If that were the case, then there would just be harsher penalties for giving kids access to cigarettes.

Also, McDonalds packaging (fry and burger boxes, etc) should come with similar warnings showing clogged arteries, fat deposits, heart attacks, and diabetes pictures on the soda pop.DJ_Lae

Oh yeah, I've seen a box of my dad's full of these with the warnings plastered on them.

[QUOTE="DJ_Lae"]Also, McDonalds packaging (fry and burger boxes, etc) should come with similar warnings showing clogged arteries, fat deposits, heart attacks, and diabetes pictures on the soda pop.Pirate700

I guess they think just seeing them is enough to make you have to rush over, rip the pack open and light up. :lol:

Pirate700

The sad thing is, I bet there are actually a ton of people who think that way. It's so stupid. It's like the people who say "This is the twentieth century, and people still smoke?! They must be uneducated pricks!" Anti-smoking sentiment is one of the most annoying things out there.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I guess they think just seeing them is enough to make you have to rush over, rip the pack open and light up. :lol:

psn8214

The sad thing is, I bet there are actually a ton of people who think that way. It's so stupid. It's like the people who say "This is the twentieth century, and people still smoke?! They must be uneducated pricks!" Anti-smoking sentiment is one of the most annoying things out there.

that was the point I hope. Doing that is almost the same thing as what they are doing to cigarettes. It's not the governments place to do this type of thing. I'm sick of everyone being okay with them doing this to smokersW1ckedGo0se

I would also say that this is mainly for people who either dont smoke alot and kids. As soon as they see these graphic pictures they should prabably realise that its not the best thing to do and back away from it. I think this is great that they are doing this.

It's not a matter of being illegal. Rat poison is legal and there is the skull and cross bone image on it used to let those who don't know what's inside that it's dangerous. Those images are used to scare of those who shouldn't have the cigarettes in the first place.despa1r_fact0r

Rat poison is not meant to be put into people's bodies. Cigarette smoke IS meant to be put into people's bodies.

[QUOTE="psn8214"]

That's ridiculous. I hate this whole anti-smoking stigma. If people want to enjoy a pack every once in a while it should be up to them, not the government.

DJ_Lae

We need more people like you. I'm fine with both as well, in fact, I'm pro-legalization (but let's not get into that here), and I'm OK with them banning it from restaurants. It's just ridiculous to me that people will go to such lengths to stop people from smoking when in this day and age everyone knows the risks.

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Yep. And besides, it's already illegal to sell cigarettes to kids in the first place.

MrGeezer

Great. So why isn't anyone proposing similar images on bottles of liquor (a product that's actually allowed to advertise on television)?

It's not for underaged smokers who are not legally allowed to purchase the product anyway. If that were the case, then there would just be harsher penalties for giving kids access to cigarettes.

Men i'm not a smoker but I think i'd be pissed if i were getting a lot of hate for doing so, I don't like smoking but i will never ask someone to stop if they don't want to it's called freewill.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I guess they think just seeing them is enough to make you have to rush over, rip the pack open and light up. :lol:

psn8214

The sad thing is, I bet there are actually a ton of people who think that way. It's so stupid. It's like the people who say "This is the twentieth century, and people still smoke?! They must be uneducated pricks!" Anti-smoking sentiment is one of the most annoying things out there.

What I'm surprised by is the Government supports this. The tax from tobacco sales generates billions of dollars in revenue both state and federal.

Pirate700

That's true, and another thing worth considering. I think it's a result of health care becoming more and more centralized. They don't want to have to pay for people who smoke having issues later in life, but regardless - that doesn't mean they should put casual smokers through this nonsense.

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"][QUOTE="Dark__Link"] Just because people still buy them doesn't mean they don't care or aren't affected by the graphics. It's disturbing that people would want to subject smokers to this kind of torment for absolutely no reason other than disagreeing with the choices they make.W1ckedGo0se

The worst Anti-Smokers is those that walk up to you when you are smoking and just start yelling at you because they hate the smell. I always go to a place away from other people when I smoke, but I'm shocked by the number of people that will what up to me (when I'm complete out of there way in a field or something) and start raging at me for smoking and saying that it smells bad. W1ckedGo0se

My friend and I always have fun with these kinds of people. If you're self-rightous enough to tell me off, then you better prepare to get **** with. :lol:

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"]It's not a matter of being illegal. Rat poison is legal and there is the skull and cross bone image on it used to let those who don't know what's inside that it's dangerous. Those images are used to scare of those who shouldn't have the cigarettes in the first place.despa1r_fact0r

Rat poison is not meant to be put into people's bodies. Cigarette smoke IS meant to be put into people's bodies.

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Rat poison is not meant to be put into people's bodies. Cigarette smoke IS meant to be put into people's bodies.

Pirate700

it's time to switch to electric anyway. i was a 2.5 pack a day smoker for years and will never go back after switching.

every other time i quit i though about smoking constantly now when i do think about it i think about how much better electric is.

no bad smell, no secondhand smoke, not counting hardware cost i pay about $10 for 2.5 weeks of vaping. my health improved, my gf (and the entire world) is off my back about smoking.

i cannot recommend it highly enough.

the only thing i would tell you to do is start out with the right hardware and liquids.

my favorite is the Tornado electric cig. and the liquid made by viking vapor.

seriously, you don't have to be big tobaccos, big pharma and the governments little ***** anymore.

What about the kids who don't know what's in them...you know the ones who would understand an image more that words.despa1r_fact0r

Find me a kid in this day and age who doesn't know the risks. I'm 18, and it's pretty much drilled into your heads in school.

it's time to switch to electric anyway.

Riverwolf007

Better hurry before the FDA bans those too. :lol: