Newest Gallup: Conservatives Maintain Edge as Top Ideological Group

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/Conservatives-Maintain-Edge-Top-Ideological-Group.aspx

These poll numbers give me some solace in hopes that the US forge a different path. With the publics disgust with both parties, maybe sometime in the future the conservative for anti imperialism and war can reigned in the interventionist. As a person who despises US imperialism and warmongering, anything that can stop or limit it gets my attention.

Liberals in my view may not be as militant on the surface as conservatives, but they do sow the seeds for conflict with relentless promotion of "human rights" and interference. By creating an atmosphere of moral guilt , they compel others to take action via isolation of said nations and economic sanctions that result in the deaths of thousands. Anyone who opposes such meddling as blasted as evil and immoral for not wanting to take actions.

This manipulation by liberals on all fronts, media, academic and government preys on the conservatives, especially those with religious backgrounds. Whipping up the conservatives into a frenzy by appealing to christian values and jesus, they can not only get popular support for sanctions, but even military action in the name of "human rights" and alleged atrocities. Of course once war begins, many reluctant conservatives become fanatical in support for the conflict.

Americans need to rise up and reject the liberal policies of intervention and interference that is so common in the 2 major parties.

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Theokhoth

That is a rather ignorant statement to make...

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

WSP87

That is a wrather ignorant statement to make...

That's all he posts about. . .

considering they honor values that are pre-country incubate...not surprising. :|

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/Conservatives-Maintain-Edge-Top-Ideological-Group.aspx

These poll numbers give me some solace in hopes that the US forge a different path. With the publics disgust with both parties, maybe sometime in the future the conservative for anti imperialism and war can be reigned in. As a person who despises US imperialism and warmongering, anything that can stop or limit it gets my attention.

Liberals in my view may not be as militant on the surface as conservatives, but they do sow the seeds for conflict with relentless promotion of "human rights" and interference. By creating an atmosphere of moral guilt , they compel others to take action via isolation of said nations and economic sanctions that result in the deaths of thousands. Anyone who opposes such meddling as blasted as evil and immoral for not wanting to take actions.

This manipulation by liberals on all fronts, media, academic and government preys on the conservatives, especially those with religious backgrounds. Whipping up the conservatives into a frenzy by appealing to christian values and jesus, they can not only get popular support for sanctions, but even military action in the name of "human rights" and alleged atrocities. Of course once war begins, many reluctant conservatives become fanatical in support for the conflict.

Americans need to rise up and reject the liberal policies of intervention and interference that is so common in the 2 major parties.

majwill24

That post read like Ann Coulter on ritalin.

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Theokhoth

huh?

What are you talking about? My problem is with your governments foreign policy of meddling and creating conflicts. If the people wont stop it, then I support outside factors that will, whether they are economic or competing powers.

I would argue, I want to save America, more so than many of the warmongering and self indulgent credit happy americans

[QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Theokhoth

That is a wrather ignorant statement to make...

That's all he posts about. . .

[QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Theokhoth

That is a wrather ignorant statement to make...

That's all he posts about. . .

[QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Theokhoth

That is a wrather ignorant statement to make...

That's all he posts about. . .

And that may be, but i promise you that Republicans do not want the United States of America to be destroyed. Also please keep in mind that if you are talking about the US of A, call it that or something similar. America is a continent and saying anything otherwise makes you look stoopid.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

majwill24

huh?

What are you talking about? My problem is with your governments foreign policy of meddling and creating conflicts. If the people wont stop it, then I support outside factors that will, whether they are economic or competing powers.

I would argue, I want to save America, more so than many of the warmongering and self indulgent credit happy americans

:? So..... Conservatives are better than Liberals?:? That's what I'm getting from your post. You kinda worded it weird.

That post read like Ann Coulter on ritalin.

PannicAtack

Haha thats funny! I have a deep dislike for that woman.

American politics are weird.

I doubt there's many actual conservatives out there.

Also strange ommision: Socialists?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="WSP87"]

That is a wrather ignorant statement to make...

WSP87

That's all he posts about. . .

And that may be, but i promise you that Republicans do not want the United States of America to be destroyed. Also please keep in mind that if you are talking about the US of A, call it that or something similar. America is a continent and saying anything otherwise makes you look stoopid.

. . .What?

I wasn't talking about Republicans, and there are two continents with "America" in their names; however there is also a country called America, that being the United States. Kinda like how there is a Great Britain (an island) and Britain (a sovereign state composed of several countries).

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

That post read like Ann Coulter on ritalin.

WSP87

Haha thats funny! I have a deep dislike for that woman.

[QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

That's all he posts about. . .

Theokhoth

And that may be, but i promise you that Republicans do not want the United States of America to be destroyed. Also please keep in mind that if you are talking about the US of A, call it that or something similar. America is a continent and saying anything otherwise makes you look stoopid.

. . .What?

I wasn't talking about Republicans, and there are two continents with "America" in their names; however there is also a country called America, that being the United States. Kinda like how there is a Great Britain (an island) and Britain (a sovereign state composed of several countries).

Conservatives, liberals, republicans, hell if i care how many gangs there are, what i do care about are the people who choose to follow these gangs without being able to think for themselves because of all the propaganda they are being fed.

:? Uh, why not just stand against an active foreign policy and promote isolationism, which is what you'd prefer the US do? Did you forget Liberals didn't start the middle-east wars that the USA are in? Most of those human rights issues they're thorny about are Darfur, Rwanda, etc. but nothing really seems to happen with those efforts.

Lockedge

American belief in global policing didnt start until after WW2. Prior to that, the conservative tradition against war was very strong, it may not always have won every debate, but it was there. Of course present day americans, regardless of party affiliation are indoctrinated with an imperialistic ideology of spreading US democracy. Many americans are ingrained with the belief of moral imperatives and responsibility of power.

Tell me I'm wrong? why is it even now, when the US is faced with the biggest economic crisis in 60 years and could face economic collapse, they still support an increasing military budget? Americans think its strong moral convictions, I see it as insanity.

[QUOTE="WSP87"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

That's all he posts about. . .

Theokhoth

And that may be, but i promise you that Republicans do not want the United States of America to be destroyed. Also please keep in mind that if you are talking about the US of A, call it that or something similar. America is a continent and saying anything otherwise makes you look stoopid.

. . .What?

I wasn't talking about Republicans, and there are two continents with "America" in their names; however there is also a country called America, that being the United States. Kinda like how there is a Great Britain (an island) and Britain (a sovereign state composed of several countries).

Britain is not the name of a continent (or 2). BUT, i did that with intention, i knew you would respond that way.Why does Amerika get to steal the continent name? Gives a sense of total control right?

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Lockedge

huh?

What are you talking about? My problem is with your governments foreign policy of meddling and creating conflicts. If the people wont stop it, then I support outside factors that will, whether they are economic or competing powers.

I would argue, I want to save America, more so than many of the warmongering and self indulgent credit happy americans

I really have no soultion about Americans 0% savings rate and borrowing. Frankly I really dont care, as long as the world dont support it, as that will finally break that behavior.

On the other point, Obama should be speaking out against the military industrial complex, the need to radically change the US mindest of war and imperialism and using its resources to better the lives of many poor americans

Number of americans living in poverty

. . .What?

I wasn't talking about Republicans, and there are two continents with "America" in their names; however there is also a country called America, that being the United States. Kinda like how there is a Great Britain (an island) and Britain (a sovereign state composed of several countries).

Yeah, Stewpid... What? LMFAO, you think i didn't do that on purpose. :| C'mon man, show a little more effort... LOL...

American politics are weird.

I doubt there's many actual conservatives out there.

Also strange ommision: Socialists?

_BlueDuck_

Thats a system of governance and economics. I really dont care what type of government and economic system Americans have, I just dont want you guys poking your noses in everyone business and stirring up trouble

Lockedge

I do stand against those things, but I realize the problem is so deep into the American psyche that actions and repudiation of the media and academia must be made. These warmongers and elitist need to be thrown out so not another generation of American are brainwashed.

Just from anecdotal experiences, I find that people consider themselves conservatives are far more likely to disagree with American imperialism. that alone make me give them my support. I dont care about their domestic social views or their religious beliefs, because they are none of my business

Tell me I'm wrong? why is it even now, when the US is faced with the biggest economic crisis in 60 years and could face economic collapse, they still support an increasing military budget? Americans think its strong moral convictions, I see it as insanity.

majwill24

[QUOTE="Lockedge"]

:? Uh, why not just stand against an active foreign policy and promote isolationism, which is what you'd prefer the US do? Did you forget Liberals didn't start the middle-east wars that the USA are in? Most of those human rights issues they're thorny about are Darfur, Rwanda, etc. but nothing really seems to happen with those efforts.

majwill24

I do stand against those things, but I realize the problem is so deep into the American psyche that actions and repudiation of the media and academia must be made. These warmongers and elitist need to be thrown out so not another generation of American are brainwashed.

Just from anecdotal experiences, I find that people consider themselves conservatives are far more likely to disagree with American imperialism. that alone make me give them my support. I dont care about their domestic social views or their religious beliefs, because they are none of my business

Fair enough. I do think USA needs a culture change(my Canada does too, albeit a minor one) and I think they need to spend more on issues regarding their own people(education, for one) and cut spending in military. I will say that with all the debt they owe to China, it's not likely that any military-related request by that country will be ignored, just or not. That will be a lingering issue for a long time.

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

Tell me I'm wrong? why is it even now, when the US is faced with the biggest economic crisis in 60 years and could face economic collapse, they still support an increasing military budget? Americans think its strong moral convictions, I see it as insanity.

Saturos3091

8) good to hear *thumbs up*

Fair enough. I do think USA needs a culture change(my Canada does too, albeit a minor one) and I think they need to spend more on issues regarding their own people(education, for one) and cut spending in military. I will say that with all the debt they owe to China, it's not likely that any military-related request by that country will be ignored, just or not. That will be a lingering issue for a long time.

Lockedge

Most adults are Conservative, most teenagers and young adults tend to be Liberal since it's the "Popular Thing."

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"]

:? Uh, why not just stand against an active foreign policy and promote isolationism, which is what you'd prefer the US do? Did you forget Liberals didn't start the middle-east wars that the USA are in? Most of those human rights issues they're thorny about are Darfur, Rwanda, etc. but nothing really seems to happen with those efforts.

Lockedge

I do stand against those things, but I realize the problem is so deep into the American psyche that actions and repudiation of the media and academia must be made. These warmongers and elitist need to be thrown out so not another generation of American are brainwashed.

Just from anecdotal experiences, I find that people consider themselves conservatives are far more likely to disagree with American imperialism. that alone make me give them my support. I dont care about their domestic social views or their religious beliefs, because they are none of my business

Fair enough. I do think USA needs a culture change(my Canada does too, albeit a minor one) and I think they need to spend more on issues regarding their own people(education, for one) and cut spending in military. I will say that with all the debt they owe to China, it's not likely that any military-related request by that country will be ignored, just or not. That will be a lingering issue for a long time.

I agree with you about the US needing a culture change and spend more on education and its own people in general. IT wont be easy though and it may only come from a catastrophic situation

[QUOTE="Lockedge"]

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

I do stand against those things, but I realize the problem is so deep into the American psyche that actions and repudiation of the media and academia must be made. These warmongers and elitist need to be thrown out so not another generation of American are brainwashed.

Just from anecdotal experiences, I find that people consider themselves conservatives are far more likely to disagree with American imperialism. that alone make me give them my support. I dont care about their domestic social views or their religious beliefs, because they are none of my business

majwill24

Fair enough. I do think USA needs a culture change(my Canada does too, albeit a minor one) and I think they need to spend more on issues regarding their own people(education, for one) and cut spending in military. I will say that with all the debt they owe to China, it's not likely that any military-related request by that country will be ignored, just or not. That will be a lingering issue for a long time.

I agree with you about the US needing a culture change and spend more on education and its own people in general. IT wont be easy though and it may only come from a catastrophic situation

I have been labeled a liberal before... mostly on this site. Because of my beliefs.

I think we can cut back on military spending, I mean c'mon we are like what? 20 years ahead of any other country technologically?

Thats just one of many beliefs that get me called "dirty liberal" on may occasions... what ever I don't care.

However if they ever pass a law that forbids the ownership of guns. Well I will use my guns on anyone that comes to my door to attempt to retrieve the guns I have. Screw you I keep my weapons. I think for the most part the people who do not want guns to be legal anymore get labeled a liberal as well.

I swear if this liberal and conservative thing does not explode into a civil war in the next 10 years I will be very suprised.

I have been labeled a liberal before... mostly on this site. Because of my beliefs.

I think we can cut back on military spending, I mean c'mon we are like what? 20 years ahead of any other country technologically?

Thats just one of many beliefs that get me called "dirty liberal" on may occasions... what ever I don't care.

However if they ever pass a law that forbids the ownership of guns. Well I will use my guns on anyone that comes to my door to attempt to retrieve the guns I have. Screw you I keep my weapons. I think for the most part the people who do not want guns to be legal anymore get labeled a liberal as well.

I swear if this liberal and conservative thing does not explode into a civil war in the next 10 years I will be very suprised.

SunofVich

Republicans these days aren't even real conservatives anymore, they're just ambassadors for the will of the rich folk.

How is that maintaining the edge? Combine liberals and moderate liberals and conservatives are outnumbered.

Most adults are Conservative, most teenagers and young adults tend to be Liberal since it's the "Popular Thing."

WeaponXY

I agree with this post, except I think most young adults are liberal nowadays due to the prevalance of college educations now. Most colleges tend to be liberal and more kids are going to to college nowadays than ever before.

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/Conservatives-Maintain-Edge-Top-Ideological-Group.aspx

These poll numbers give me some solace in hopes that the US forge a different path. With the publics disgust with both parties, maybe sometime in the future the conservative for anti imperialism and war can be reigned in. As a person who despises US imperialism and warmongering, anything that can stop or limit it gets my attention.

Liberals in my view may not be as militant on the surface as conservatives, but they do sow the seeds for conflict with relentless promotion of "human rights" and interference. By creating an atmosphere of moral guilt , they compel others to take action via isolation of said nations and economic sanctions that result in the deaths of thousands. Anyone who opposes such meddling as blasted as evil and immoral for not wanting to take actions.

This manipulation by liberals on all fronts, media, academic and government preys on the conservatives, especially those with religious backgrounds. Whipping up the conservatives into a frenzy by appealing to christian values and jesus, they can not only get popular support for sanctions, but even military action in the name of "human rights" and alleged atrocities. Of course once war begins, many reluctant conservatives become fanatical in support for the conflict.

Americans need to rise up and reject the liberal policies of intervention and interference that is so common in the 2 major parties.

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

Theokhoth

Anyway I'm more moderate. Not too drastic which is I think a better course.

So, topic creator? You basicly want people to be passive an indifferent and do absolutely nothing when something is wrong with society? Great idea.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

We get it, you want America to be destroyed.

LJS9502_basic

Anyway I'm more moderate. Not too drastic which is I think a better course.

Actually, I'm deeply disturbed and troubled by so many of the posters confusion of the ideological labels with party affiliation. Also, the belief that without empire America, the life of US citizens will crash into hardship and despair, leaves me with utter bewilderment.

The belief and desire to be an empire, policing the world and meddling in every part of the globe is from the liberal camp. IT's not difficult to understand that you can have Republicans and Democrats to be conservative or liberal on various issues. The problem is that both parties share the liberal view of imperialism and intervention.

So, topic creator? You basicly want people to be passive an indifferent and do absolutely nothing when something is wrong with society? Great idea.

EMOEVOLUTION

Fortunately the economic crisis will put an end to warmongers and imperialists such as yourself. The US is rapidly losing its influence and you will soon see this reduction in a visible manner when its overseas bases begin to close.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/Conservatives-Maintain-Edge-Top-Ideological-Group.aspx

These poll numbers give me some solace in hopes that the US forge a different path. With the publics disgust with both parties, maybe sometime in the future the conservative for anti imperialism and war can reigned in the interventionist. As a person who despises US imperialism and warmongering, anything that can stop or limit it gets my attention.majwill24

Moderates, Liberals are currently more likely to support diplomacy with Iran, conservatives are amongst the groups least likely to support diplomacy with Iran.

Republicans (which your own source claims 72% of the time identify themselves as conservative) outnumber Democrats (which your own source claims 37% of the time identify themselves as Liberals) in belief that North Korea, Iraq, Pakistan, Israel and Palestine, Russia and Mexico represent direct threats to US security.

Two years ago; self identified conservatives consistently outranked liberals on US military involvement in Afghanistan, Pakistan.

There just isn't evidence to support what you perceive as 'conservative', is what these respondents envisage for themselves. On the contrary, self identifying conservatives appear more belligerent than liberals.

Liberals in my view may not be as militant on the surface as conservatives, but they do sow the seeds for conflict with relentless promotion of "human rights" and interference. By creating an atmosphere of moral guilt , they compel others to take action via isolation of said nations and economic sanctions that result in the deaths of thousands. Anyone who opposes such meddling as blasted as evil and immoral for not wanting to take actions.

majwill24

This view seems rather ridiculous honestly. To claim a clandestine liberal movement under the banner of human rights is precipitating foreign interventionism is extremely far-fetched.

Genuinely imperialistic ideologies like the Bush Doctrine, Reagan's Soviet Confrontation or even as far back as Eisenhower's Domino Theory are far more responsible for accusations of US empire. Although I'd guess you consider these liberal policies.

This manipulation by liberals on all fronts, media, academic and government preys on the conservatives, especially those with religious backgrounds. Whipping up the conservatives into a frenzy by appealing to christian values and jesus, they can not only get popular support for sanctions, but even military action in the name of "human rights" and alleged atrocities. Of course once war begins, many reluctant conservatives become fanatical in support for the conflict.

Americans need to rise up and reject the liberal policies of intervention and interference that is so common in the 2 major parties.

majwill24

To be honest, I don't agree with your interpretation of Liberalism's stance on international relations. I suspect you see US Liberalism as a distinct beast from its European counterpart.

What Americans need to do is rise up against all political parties, and especially the Democratic and Republican parties. They have created a two party oligarchy that will benefit no one but themselves in the long run. Ideologies be damned, it's the parties that manipulate the population, not any sort of ideology. Ideology is neutral, it's when people start acting on it that it's called either good or evil.