North Korea Reportedly Fires Artillery Near South

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Why do people keep bringing up WWIII? A World War is not going to occur over an irrelevant country like N. Korea.

krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

N korea cannot beat the south in full scale war. The south is too well equipped/trained.

Pixel-Pirate

Exactly, the China only supports them because they are like the great wall of china blocking American influence. Russia has no reason to support them since they have basically embraced western ideology and have no ties with N korea.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

N korea cannot beat the south in full scale war. The south is too well equipped/trained.

Engrish_Major

The world's a different place than it was in the 1950s. The Soviet Union doesn't exist anymore, Russia is speaking out against North Korea, and China has too much to lose by souring relations with the United States.

Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.Human-after-all

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="revolution2k6"] oh yea? and how did world war 1 AND 2 start? revolution2k6

World War 1 started because allies of hostile nations declared war on each other, pretty much the same for WW2.

Huh? WW1 immediate cause was due to the assassination of some duke of Austria by a Serbian I believe. When they went to war, their allies were also called upon and also went to war (germany).. and everyone else and their allies went to war. That will not happen with N korea, if they go to war they will only be fighting S korea, USA, Japan and the UK.

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.redstorm72

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.Head_of_games

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

Jong would be alot harder to get to, his people are more fanatical and are extremely brainwashed, just look at it this way, a N korean fled to china and could not believe how things were there. She said that everything was so much better than N korea (and she's living in a Chinese slum) and she said that she thought she was living well in N korea and that the state was truly providing for them.

Now we all hate on China for their human rights and poverty and such, but when someone could come from N korea and say China is soo much better, you can only imagine how N korea is.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.Head_of_games

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

Your over confidence is your weakness.

FOOL, that was the IMMEDIATE cause, the spark that broke the BUILDING tensions, do me a favor, wikipidea ww1. Franz Ferdinand was only a small part.revolution2k6

I'm not sure where you are trying to go with this, I already stated that was the immediate cause, Europe has always had tensions back then because of the amount of empires that were around, but what you fail to understand is that N korea, unlike Austria has no true allies. China will not get involved, and no one else will. The only people who will get involved is the UK,US,S korea and Japan.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] North Koreans may overestimate their strength, But pretty much everyone else underestimates their strength using Wikipedia as a source. I'm not saying Wikipedia is a a completely non-reliable source, Its just that, when it comes to these type of countries people don't usually know the size/strength of their military. Not accurately anyways, since most of the main sources are outdated. And I think N.Korea expects China to intervene if a war occurs, which is unlikely in my opinion.

krazy-blazer

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.redstorm72

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.XileLord

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

Well, to be fair, the U.S. does a bit of brain washing too. I don't know how many times I've heard the media say that the U.S. is "the single greatest country God put on this earth". It doesn't mean people who believe it should be nuked though :P

Really though, it's a tragedy how badly the people live their, and I think people forget that. All we ever seem to think about when we hear of North Korea is "NUKES!" and "crazy dictator". If a conflict does break out, I hope that we don't go over board and end up committing some atrocities of our own.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Why do people keep bringing up WWIII? A World War is not going to occur over an irrelevant country like N. Korea.

revolution2k6

Looks like South Korea needs to construct more pylons before the North sends in a Zerg rush.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.Head_of_games

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

l4dak47

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.redstorm72

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

I don't think I've even seen a single person suggesting that the country should be nuked.

[QUOTE="tonberry007"]

Someone should just assassinate Kim Jong Il already, Jeez. He is a thorn in the side to both his allies and enemies. Where is CIA when you need them. :

Stesilaus

It was probably the CIA that sank the Cheonan, using a captured North Korean torpedo. :|

Not sure if serious.

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"] N. Korea's greatest armored vehicle is an export-version of a Soviet T-62 with a few upgrades. That's worse than the T-72s fielded by Iraq during the Gulf Wars, the tank that became known as "that tank you see burning on CNN". The vast majority of their airfleet is comrpsied of MIG-21s, which were used in the Viet-freaking-Nam War. Their small-arms are mostly crappy AK-47 knockoffs made by old Chinese machinery considered unfit for making their Type 56 rifle. And the men behind all of that are part of a generation so bereft of nutrients that they're nearly a full foot shorter than their Southern counterparts. Militarily, they are an absolute joke.Verge_6

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="Human-after-all"]Could they even nuke South Korea without risking damaging their own country from fallout etc? Maybe if their bombs are small. Someone should accidentally make a parking lot out of NK.coolbeans90

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

I don't think I've even seen a single person suggesting that the country should be nuked.

Really? Then you haven't been looking very hard.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Head_of_games"] The same was true for Iraq. Shock and Awe seemed to work pretty well, I think Jong would be a piece of cake compared to Saddam.Verge_6

[QUOTE="Stesilaus"]

[QUOTE="tonberry007"]

Someone should just assassinate Kim Jong Il already, Jeez. He is a thorn in the side to both his allies and enemies. Where is CIA when you need them. :

coolbeans90

It was probably the CIA that sank the Cheonan, using a captured North Korean torpedo. :|

Not sure if serious.

Pretty sure he's a conspiracy theorist. Not the first time he's posted something along those lines.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

This isn't specifically target at you, but to all the people who want to nuke/invade North Korea. It seems everyone forgets that their are 20 million innocent people who live their under a brutal dictator. It isn't them who are always trying to start **** with other countries, they are just trying to survive. Nuking a country just because of it's leader would only end up killing millions of innocent people. I thought the U.S. was above that.

redstorm72

I don't think I've even seen a single person suggesting that the country should be nuked.

Really? Then you haven't been looking very hard.

Yeah, normally I don't look "very hard" for crazy people. I'm sure some exist. Haven't seen any suggest that course of action in this thread.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

I don't think I've even seen a single person suggesting that the country should be nuked.

coolbeans90

Really? Then you haven't been looking very hard.

Yeah, normally I don't look "very hard" for crazy people. I'm sure some exist. Haven't seen any suggest that course of action in this thread.

I could of sworn I saw a few.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Really? Then you haven't been looking very hard.

Pixel-Pirate

Yeah, normally I don't look "very hard" for crazy people. I'm sure some exist. Haven't seen any suggest that course of action in this thread.

I could of sworn I saw a few.

Crazy people, or ones that have suggested nuking NK?

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Yeah, normally I don't look "very hard" for crazy people. I'm sure some exist. Haven't seen any suggest that course of action in this thread.

coolbeans90

I could of sworn I saw a few.

Crazy people, or ones that have suggested nuking NK?

Suggesting or hoping they get nuked. Which are crazy people :P

Also thread is lacking this

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I could of sworn I saw a few.

Pixel-Pirate

Crazy people, or ones that have suggested nuking NK?

Suggesting or hoping they get nuked. Which are crazy people :P

Agreed. (haven't seen many those either though, fortunately)

Can i ask a question, what would happen if america helped south korean? would north korea attack USA as well?

Can i ask a question, what would happen if america helped south korean? would north korea attack USA as well?

cyborg9

Not alot NK can do to the US.

Can i ask a question, what would happen if america helped south korean? would north korea attack USA as well?

cyborg9

The U.S. currently has around 20,000 troops in South Korea. Is the North attacked the South we would be involved.

This crap never goes anywhere. They have been picking eachother off little by little for years. Do they want to have a war, by just killing a few people here and then over the span of a century? Or is someone gonna straight up declare a WAR?!

IronBeaver

South Korea just doesn't want innocent people to get involved.

you prolly know North Korea is being run by monkeys. but apart from them, there are innocent North Korean residents who are just living their lives, and are oblivious to the world. they are poor and oppressed. they're even poorer than Cubans. most of their TV sets are still old, even their hairstyles are old-fashioned. i know it's sad, but it's all the North government's fault.

on the other hand, North Korean officials do not care for the lives of innocent South Korean citizens.

would anyone else help north korea? so basically there isnt going to be any type of Worldwar 3, thank god

This is going to be a fun couple of days. We'll see what happens.

North Korea has no allies anymore. Back in the 50s during the Korean War (which is technically still going on), China send a few hundred thousand troops to aid North Korea. However this time China and North Korea aren't on the best of terms.

Basically North Korea is absolutely asking for it, and if they keep it up, they are going to get it...

would anyone else help north korea? so basically there isnt going to be any type of Worldwar 3, thank god

cyborg9

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="krazy-blazer"] I doubt you, or even I, are knowledgeable enough to be that sure. Their military information isn't exactly an open source. Most Information on the North Korean military is said to be outdated and not %100 accurate. Which is kind of my point, Its just annoying when people just claim how weak N.K military is and how they've failed already. Its a bit ignorant.

krazy-blazer

It's a trap for the U.S. North Korea really doesn't care about South Korea, they will attack/ tow with South Korea to get the United States Involved . Once USA gets involved , they would declare war on United States....Cuba would follow suit , and then the most surprisingly one would be China(keep enemies closer than friends) . (But that could only happen if Cuba, China, and North Korea were actually smart)

BUT Really, it's a little petty/pitty fight between South Korea and North Korea as always.

▲ Lets do this. ▲

When half of the world is against you, there is not much you can do.SF_KiLLaMaN

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"]When half of the world is against you, there is not much you can do.Harisemo

You can give a very good guess based on equipment and nourishment of the average soldier.

[QUOTE="cyborg9"]

Can i ask a question, what would happen if america helped south korean? would north korea attack USA as well?

SF_KiLLaMaN

There's not much media coming out of North Korea so as far as we know they could.

Is North Korea serious? O well. WW3 here we come :?

[QUOTE="789shadow"]

I highly doubt that American troops would get involved.

LikeHaterade

I hope to God you're right.

▲ Lets do this. ▲

Loco_Live

I highly doubt that American troops would get involved.

789shadow

American troops will be involved because we have more then 30,000 troops stationed at the border right now. Sense we're strong allies to South Korea; America would most likely be involved if SK does goes to war with NK.

A conflict with North Korea is basically inevitable.

the south started it this happens all the time its not big news