[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]I went to see a theater piece with some friends once, don't remember what play it was (think it was 1984 >.>). During the break in the middle of the show, one of my friends got thirsty. I go up to the small bar of the theater and asks him for a glass of water. He takes a glass and pours up some tap water (I can see him pour it up), gives me the glass and says "that will be 4 dollars"... and he's effin serious. So yeah, I hate that rule that you can't bring your own food to the movie theater or the regular theater or any other place where they're selling you food too. Theaters make most of their money not through ticket sales, but through concession. They charge high prices because they pretty much have to. But I agree, $4 for water is ridiculous.
Well i pretty much get the answer you guys have presented. Its their park their rules,... (even though we pay them) I have never purchased food from theme parks as i am conpletely against their outrageous pricing. I'll continue to sneak in my own food then i guess.
LOL at its not the Canadian way. All businesses want to make money, even Canadian ones. I live on the boarder, I have had plenty of experiences of Canadian companies being greedy.
No, it is not. Freedom is in part the ability to own your own property and make rules for what goes on in that property. You can't necessarily choose to harm yourself nor can you vandalise a building; that doesn't harm anyone and yet it is not allowed.
Dark__Link
let with clarify my defintion. Remember Freedom is the ability to do what you wish as long as it does not harm others (with your property). Considering your equally warped views in the gun thread... I think you're a troll... Thank you for your input. I am completely against guns and think the world would be better it no one had them, not the bad guys and not the good guys.
I'm from the U.S. and here's what you should do. BTW, I didn't read all of the replys so I don't know if this is redundant.
Anyway, yes you can't bring your food into the park but leave it in your car in a cooler. When it's lunch time get stamped so you can come back into the park, go to you vehicle and eat lunch. When you're fully bloated from Mom's home cooking go back into the park. Problem solved.
I'm from the U.S. and here's what you should do. BTW, I didn't read all of the replys so I don't know if this is redundant.
Anyway, yes you can't bring your food into the park but leave it in your car in a cooler. When it's lunch time get stamped so you can come back into the park, go to you vehicle and eat lunch. When you're fully bloated from Mom's home cooking go back into the park. Problem solved.
Done this many times. Saves money.
yeah thats pretty much what my family does. food gets cold though..
[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]Well i pretty much get the answer you guys have presented. Its their park their rules,... (even though we pay them) When you pay them you're a customer. That doesn't change your rights in any way.
With American ownership comes capitalist policies and the people will lose out. Sad to know the theme park has been bought out, by an American firm no less, I loved that theme park. My wimpy brothers were too scared to ride the biggest roller coaster in the kids section :x
All private businesses have a right of admission refusal, they can use this to say "You cannot bring in outside food". There are many legal reasons they could use, your food could be contaminated, or contain alcohol, or many other things, it sounds honorable, but mostly they just want your money :)
I'm from the U.S. and here's what you should do. BTW, I didn't read all of the replys so I don't know if this is redundant.
Anyway, yes you can't bring your food into the park but leave it in your car in a cooler. When it's lunch time get stamped so you can come back into the park, go to you vehicle and eat lunch. When you're fully bloated from Mom's home cooking go back into the park. Problem solved.
Done this many times. Saves money.
XCyberForceX
Not to mention that the park in question encourages this by having a picnic pavillion outside of the front gates.
Uh, just like you can enforce what gets brought into your house, theme parks and theaters can say what gets brought into their facilities. In the case of theme parks... if you can't afford to pay for their food and drinks (but want to eat/drink), don't go. It's as simple as that.
Its private property for the public, thats different than my house. An apartment building is private property which is rented to the public, you can still bring your own food, You maybe able to eat what you want when you rent an apartment but you can't do whatever you want. My complex has a rule banning all pets. If they catch you with a pet you must get rid of it or get evicted. As long as the rules of a place do not discriminate against a race or gender. They can do as they will. They control the prices of everything, the items sold, and whether you can even use the facilities. My only complaintis that quality doesn't equal price
The first theme park my family went to was canada's wonderland, always brought our own food. I remember the first time we went to another theme park, it was Carowinds in South Carolina. The security at the gates told us we can't bring in food. We were schocked! what! can't bring my own food! what is this America! oh it is...
As far as i am concerned, whether its in the law or not. A respectful company would treat its customers with respect and dignity and not just care about your money. This was the Canada's wonderland taht i loved and i hope it returns that way. We didn't buy anymore season passes ever since it changed, they disrespected all of their previous customers who brought their own food.
Due to certainCanadian fair business practice laws, it's perfectly legal to bring in outside food to anywhere that themselves serve food. My guess is that includes theme parks and movie theatres.
[QUOTE="Famiking"]With American ownership comes capitalist policies and the people will lose out. Sad to know, I loved that theme park. My wimpy brothers were too scared to ride the biggest roller coaster in the kids section :xSTAR_Admiral
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With prior ownership came policies that apparently brought the park to enough financial trouble to necessitate a sale. LOSE
Due to certainCanadian fair business practice laws, it's perfectly legal to bring in outside food to anywhere that themselves serve food. My guess is that includes theme parks and movie theatres.
_BlueDuck_
Yes i remember that law. In Canada i can eat KFC at a McDonalds if i want and i have seen it done!
Maybe one of the reasons an American company came into play was because they were not making enough money. Food sales in the park generate a lot of revenue. So if you want to blame anyone for the change in ownership blame the people who didn't spend enough in the park.
[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"][QUOTE="Famiking"]With American ownership comes capitalist policies and the people will lose out. Sad to know, I loved that theme park. My wimpy brothers were too scared to ride the biggest roller coaster in the kids section :xOleg_Huzwog
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With prior ownership came policies that apparently brought the park to enough financial trouble to necessitate a sale. LOSE
Canada's wonderland was always successful, they could afford to build new rides every year. Someone simply handed the previous owner a big enough check and that was that. I don't think they would come out with 3-5 new rides every year(without removing old ones) if they were in trouble.
Private property. Just as Gamespot is free to censor us, parks can prevent you from bringing in food because it's their facilities, and to use them you have to abide by their rules.
[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"][QUOTE="Famiking"]With American ownership comes capitalist policies and the people will lose out. Sad to know, I loved that theme park. My wimpy brothers were too scared to ride the biggest roller coaster in the kids section :xOleg_Huzwog
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With prior ownership came policies that apparently brought the park to enough financial trouble to necessitate a sale. LOSE
It's nice to know that people care more about money than face value these days. The degeneration capitalism is having on society is producing some hilarious and sad results.
Maybe one of the reasons an American company came into play was because they were not making enough money. Food sales in the park generate a lot of revenue. So if you want to blame anyone for the change in ownership blame the people who didn't spend enough in the park.kakkarott23
Not to mention their is a certain hygein aspect to it. In general when people don't have to clean up their own mess, they are slobs. Like I want to walk around a park with a bunch of cheese it wrappers laying of the ground.
[QUOTE="Famiking"] It's nice to know that people care more about money than face value these days. The degeneration capitalism is having on society is producing some hilarious and sad results. It's not just a matter of capitalism or profit here...To keep admission costs down, concessions are necessary to keep businesses afloat. Especially at things like theme parks where there are many employees in addition to cost of maintenance and upkeep of stuff for the safety of guests. It's not just charging people for food for the sake of it, there is a purpose.
[QUOTE="kakkarott23"]Maybe one of the reasons an American company came into play was because they were not making enough money. Food sales in the park generate a lot of revenue. So if you want to blame anyone for the change in ownership blame the people who didn't spend enough in the park.DaBrainz
Not to mention their is a certain hygein aspect to it. In general when people don't have to clean up their own mess, they are slobs. Like I want to walk around a park with a bunch of cheese it wrappers laying of the ground.
The fine for littering at Wonderland was the Death penalty :o (or close)
i do know what u mean. i sneak in candy when i go to the theaters. every place has some sort of rule like that concerts, some parks, theme parks. i remember i went to some theme park i paid $8.00 for a burger and drink. i was still hungry i didn't have any more money. i was kind of pissed about that.
Private property. Just as Gamespot is free to censor us, parks can prevent you from bringing in food because it's their facilities, and to use them you have to abide by their rules.
metroidfood
Except there are federal laws in place that must be abided by as well.
DaBrainz: You have a very good point. I can imagine how nasty the facilities would get if people could use it to prepare and heat up there own food. It is something I would never use. Through the course of a day it would be impossible to keep it clean. It would be even worse as summer hits.
[QUOTE="spazzx625"][QUOTE="Famiking"] It's nice to know that people care more about money than face value these days. The degeneration capitalism is having on society is producing some hilarious and sad results. It's not just a matter of capitalism or profit here...To keep admission costs down, concessions are necessary to keep businesses afloat. Especially at things like theme parks where there are many employees in addition to cost of maintenance and upkeep of stuff for the safety of guests. It's not just charging people for food for the sake of it, there is a purpose. And the purpose is profits, i.e. capitalism. Either way, I'm sure the government would support them at harsh times, it's one of the few amusement parks in Ontario that are any good + it's the most popular attracting many tourists yearly.
[QUOTE="Famiking"] It's nice to know that people care more about money than face value these days. The degeneration capitalism is having on society is producing some hilarious and sad results. spazzx625
It's not just a matter of capitalism or profit here...To keep admission costs down, concessions are necessary to keep businesses afloat. Especially at things like theme parks where there are many employees in addition to cost of maintenance and upkeep of stuff for the safety of guests. It's not just charging people for food for the sake of it, there is a purpose. There is a difference between "I want to keep my business afloat" and "I want to gouche people" If the restaurants charged the same price as they do outside the park, that would be fine. But they know people are lazy. People don't want to bring a tub full of food to the theme park and would prefer to just buy food at the park. Taking advantage of them is not against the law, but is rude, vile, and completely disrespectful. The same with people charging $5 for water at a concert, when its normally sold at $1. All the pizza joints outside the park seem to be doing just fine at the price they sell at so there is no reason for the ones inside the park to overcharge.
Private property. Just as Gamespot is free to censor us, parks can prevent you from bringing in food because it's their facilities, and to use them you have to abide by their rules.
_BlueDuck_
Except there are federal laws in place that must be abided by as well.
Well yeah, but there are no federal laws that require theme parks to allow food in the park.
Private property. Just as Gamespot is free to censor us, parks can prevent you from bringing in food because it's their facilities, and to use them you have to abide by their rules.
metroidfood
Except there are federal laws in place that must be abided by as well.
Well yeah, but there are no federal laws that require theme parks to allow food in the park.
There are in Canada (well, at least as far as I understand it).
Star, you are also paying for convienence. You have the right to go where ever you want to get food. That is why they allow you to leave and come back. If you don't want to leave then you pay the price. You are not forced to do anything. The rule is simply don't bring your food in here. I am not mad at the system.
By the way TC, Canada's Wonderland is owned by Cedar Fair (the same company that owns Cedar Point the best amusment park in the world). They are an American company based out of Sandusky Ohio. They bought it a few years ago from Paramount which is BTW an AMERICAN COMPANY:o(owned since the early 90's)
There is a difference between "I want to keep my business afloat" and "I want to gouche people" If the restaurants charged the same price as they do outside the park, that would be fine. But they know people are lazy. People don't want to bring a tub full of food to the theme park and would prefer to just buy food at the park. Taking advantage of them is not against the law, but is rude, vile, and completely disrespectful. The same with people charging $5 for water at a concert, when its normally sold at $1. All the pizza joints outside the park seem to be doing just fine at the price they sell at so there is no reason for the ones inside the park to overcharge.
STAR_Admiral
So what you're saying is this whole thread has been a thinly veiled attempt to say 'Canada is better than the US'?
There is a difference between "I want to keep my business afloat" and "I want to gouche people" If the restaurants charged the same price as they do outside the park, that would be fine. But they know people are lazy. People don't want to bring a tub full of food to the theme park and would prefer to just buy food at the park. Taking advantage of them is not against the law, but is rude, vile, and completely disrespectful. The same with people charging $5 for water at a concert, when its normally sold at $1. All the pizza joints outside the park seem to be doing just fine at the price they sell at so there is no reason for the ones inside the park to overcharge.
So what you're saying is this whole thread has been a thinly veiled attempt to say 'Canada is better than the US'? ... no that is not what i am saying. Which country is better is a matter of personnel preference so please stop with that discussion. i like canada better and thats just my choice, that does not mean canada is better.
[QUOTE="kakkarott23"]Star, you are also paying for convienence. You have the right to go where ever you want to get food. That is why they allow you to leave and come back. If you don't want to leave then you pay the price. You are not forced to do anything. The rule is simply don't bring your food in here. I am not mad at the system. Why can't you just eat inside? Is my food going to blow up?
Star, you are also paying for convienence. You have the right to go where ever you want to get food. That is why they allow you to leave and come back. If you don't want to leave then you pay the price. You are not forced to do anything. The rule is simply don't bring your food in here. I am not mad at the system.kakkarott23
Thats not really fair though. I payed the same admission price as anyone else and deserve to be at the park the whole day. The concession prices are a different matter. if i leave the park, i have to walk to the car, drive, drive back, walk back and thus lose time from enjoying the park. The price is of time and not of money, which you should not be subjected to.
[QUOTE="kakkarott23"]Star, you are also paying for convienence. You have the right to go where ever you want to get food. That is why they allow you to leave and come back. If you don't want to leave then you pay the price. You are not forced to do anything. The rule is simply don't bring your food in here. I am not mad at the system.STAR_Admiral
Thats not really fair though. I payed the same admission price as anyone else and deserve to be at the park the whole day. The concession prices are a different matter. if i leave the park, i have to walk to the car, drive, drive back, walk back and thus lose time from enjoying the park. The price is of time and not of money, which you should not be subjected to.
You only have to walk back to the parking lot where you should have your food in a cooler. There's no need to drive away.
[QUOTE="kakkarott23"]Star, you are also paying for convienence. You have the right to go where ever you want to get food. That is why they allow you to leave and come back. If you don't want to leave then you pay the price. You are not forced to do anything. The rule is simply don't bring your food in here. I am not mad at the system.STAR_Admiral
Thats not really fair though. I payed the same admission price as anyone else and deserve to be at the park the whole day. The concession prices are a different matter. if i leave the park, i have to walk to the car, drive, drive back, walk back and thus lose time from enjoying the park. The price is of time and not of money, which you should not be subjected to. That is again for what the convienence is. You go to ride the rides not to have a picnic. Your admission does not cover food.
[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"][QUOTE="kakkarott23"]Star, you are also paying for convienence. You have the right to go where ever you want to get food. That is why they allow you to leave and come back. If you don't want to leave then you pay the price. You are not forced to do anything. The rule is simply don't bring your food in here. I am not mad at the system.kakkarott23
Thats not really fair though. I payed the same admission price as anyone else and deserve to be at the park the whole day. The concession prices are a different matter. if i leave the park, i have to walk to the car, drive, drive back, walk back and thus lose time from enjoying the park. The price is of time and not of money, which you should not be subjected to. That is again for what the convienence is. You go to ride the rides not to have a picnic. Your admission does not cover food. A pizza outside the park costs $7, Inside its $22. $15 for convenience? okay..
[QUOTE="kakkarott23"][QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"] Thats not really fair though. I payed the same admission price as anyone else and deserve to be at the park the whole day. The concession prices are a different matter. if i leave the park, i have to walk to the car, drive, drive back, walk back and thus lose time from enjoying the park. The price is of time and not of money, which you should not be subjected to. STAR_Admiral
That is again for what the convienence is. You go to ride the rides not to have a picnic. Your admission does not cover food. A pizza outside the park costs $7, Inside its $22. $15 for convenience? okay.. You are making my point. You can leave the park and get a cheaper meal. However, you don't want to waste that time then is your time worth the $15. The theme park allows you to leave and come back without paying an aditional price. The choice is yours. Bring your own food andbe responsible for your mess in your own vehicle. Leave thepark and pay what you want. Stay in the park and pay their prices. I see nothing wrong with this. At no point do I see a problem with this.
[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"][QUOTE="kakkarott23"] That is again for what the convienence is. You go to ride the rides not to have a picnic. Your admission does not cover food. kakkarott23
A pizza outside the park costs $7, Inside its $22. $15 for convenience? okay.. You are making my point. You can leave the park and get a cheaper meal. However, you don't want to waste that time then is your time worth the $15. The theme park allows you to leave and come back without paying an aditional price. The choice is yours. Bring your own food andbe responsible for your mess in your own vehicle. Leave thepark and pay what you want. Stay in the park and pay their prices. I see nothing wrong with this. At no point do I see a problem with this. You see nothing wrong with people charging you extrordinarily more for the same thing just because of where you are? Really? i go to Pizza Pizza and pay $7 for a full pizza. Downtown its like $9 (taking advantage of tourists). At the university its also like $9 (taking advantage of students). Theme park; $22. The same amount of work when into that pizza. The same amount of materials. The convenience justification is a bunch of nonsense to take more money. Same item, same work, same price. There is no additional cost needed to make the pizza downtown, at the school, or at the theme park.
[QUOTE="kakkarott23"] That is again for what the convienence is. You go to ride the rides not to have a picnic. Your admission does not cover food. I guess it's not common in the US due to corporate bordello-policies. But in Canada AFAIK it's tradition to take a picnic at the amusement park, I see many people do it.
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