Not allowed to bring your own food? Legal how?

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#101 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

They are "free" to enforce those rules.

Famiking

And they shouldn't be.

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

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#102 xobballox
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 GOOD DAY, Sir.

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#103 kakkarott23
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Like you downtown pizza costsmore because itis a high tourist area. Which also means that rent is higher. How do you suppose those shops make the needed extramoney to pay their rent? What about the same pizza place located near the theme park. The are being helped by the theme park's prices. Someone says I will go there instead of eating at the park. That is a win for the theme park and the community. If you are looking at this in such a black and white manner you will miss everything. People pay for convienence and luxury all the time.
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#104 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

They are "free" to enforce those rules.

Oleg_Huzwog

And they shouldn't be.

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

Depends on the policy, in this case yes.
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#105 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] And they shouldn't be.Famiking

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

Depends on the policy, in this case yes.

That's an incredibly selfish thing for you to say.

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#106 Famiking
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[QUOTE="kakkarott23"]Like you downtown pizza costsmore because itis a high tourist area. Which also means that rent is higher. How do you suppose those shops make the needed extramoney to pay their rent? What about the same pizza place located near the theme park. The are being helped by the theme park's prices. Someone says I will go there instead of eating at the park. That is a win for the theme park and the community. If you are looking at this in such a black and white manner you will miss everything. People pay for convienence and luxury all the time.

They don't raise their prices, they get more sales because of more customers. Raising prices would only be done because they probably monopolized that area and are trying to manipulate the large number of customers. Competition commission and fair trade organizations hopefully will take care of that.
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Capitalism is a dirty business.
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#108 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

Oleg_Huzwog

Depends on the policy, in this case yes.

That's an incredibly selfish thing for you to say.

I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.
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#109 duxup
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[QUOTE="Famiking"] I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.

You do that by not buying it.
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#110 STAR_Admiral
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="-Misanthropic-"]

They are "free" to enforce those rules.

And they shouldn't be.

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

Yes if its the other private property paying for it lol.
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#111 duxup
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] And they shouldn't be.STAR_Admiral

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

Yes if its the other private property paying for it lol.

Since when does being a customer grant them the right to dictate policy on someone else's property?
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#112 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Depends on the policy, in this case yes.Famiking

That's an incredibly selfish thing for you to say.

I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.

It's not a rip off if you have reasonable alternatives...such as walking back to your car in the parking lot where you've got a cooler of food.

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[QUOTE="Famiking"] I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.

If you don't like it, then don't go to the park. They're perfectly within their right to regulate what substances get taken onto their property.
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Famiking"] I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.

You do that by not buying it.

And starve?
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#115 STAR_Admiral
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There is a difference between private property and public "private property" like theme parks. A house you pay for yourself. The theme park is payed for by the public, their money builds the rides and keeps em running. Its the public's park which has been entrusted to a company. Therefore it should follow the public's rules since they pay for it. Sinc when is something your property when someone else pays for it?
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#116 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Famiking"] I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.Famiking
You do that by not buying it.

And starve?

Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

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#117 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="Famiking"] I'm so selfish for not letting large companies rip me off for a bodily function. How selfish of me to not give rich people more money.Famiking
You do that by not buying it.

And starve?

Starve or starve?

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#118 duxup
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There is a difference between private property and public "private property" like theme parks. A house you pay for yourself. The theme park is payed for by the public, their money builds the rides and keeps em running. Its the public's park which has been entrusted to a company. Therefore it should follow the public's rules since they pay for it. Sinc when is something your property when someone else pays for it?STAR_Admiral
You're choosing money for a service. Not ownership in the park.
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#119 Famiking
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It's not a rip off if you have reasonable alternatives...such as walking back to your car in the parking lot where you've got a cooler of food.

Oleg_Huzwog

If I have a reasonable alternatives then it's a rip off. I don't see why I have to walk back all the way to my car, in an amusement park like Wonderland where it will probably take 15-30 minutes to get to my car and another 15-30 minutes to get back to where I was just so I can have my lunch.

More examples of corruption.

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#120 STAR_Admiral
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[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

A private entity shouldn't be able to set policy on their own private property if another private entity doesn't like it?

duxup

Yes if its the other private property paying for it lol.

Since when does being a customer grant them the right to dictate policy on someone else's property?

lawl their property

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#121 Oleg_Huzwog
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There is a difference between private property and public "private property" like theme parks. A house you pay for yourself. The theme park is payed for by the public, their money builds the rides and keeps em running. Its the public's park which has been entrusted to a company. Therefore it should follow the public's rules since they pay for it. Sinc when is something your property when someone else pays for it?STAR_Admiral

By your line of reasoning, I DON'T pay for my house by myself. My employer does. It's my employer's money that goes towards the mortgage.

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There is a difference between private property and public "private property" like theme parks. A house you pay for yourself. The theme park is payed for by the public, their money builds the rides and keeps em running. Its the public's park which has been entrusted to a company. Therefore it should follow the public's rules since they pay for it. Sinc when is something your property when someone else pays for it?STAR_Admiral
Wiow, that is just so wrong. they are a private company that provides a service you CHOOSE to pay for. there are no taxes,there are no government funds,and they succeed and fail on people CHOOSING to go. Thsi is not a government forest or park,and if I reacll correctly even those have rules.
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#123 Famiking
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Starve or starve?duxup
So it's okay as long as we don't die?
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#124 STAR_Admiral
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="duxup"] You do that by not buying it.Oleg_Huzwog

And starve?

Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Miss a meal, are you insane?
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#125 STAR_Admiral
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[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]There is a difference between private property and public "private property" like theme parks. A house you pay for yourself. The theme park is payed for by the public, their money builds the rides and keeps em running. Its the public's park which has been entrusted to a company. Therefore it should follow the public's rules since they pay for it. Sinc when is something your property when someone else pays for it?Oleg_Huzwog

By your line of reasoning, I DON'T pay for my house by myself. My employer does. It's my employer's money that goes towards the mortgage.

Um no, you worked for that money. its now yours, you don't follow my reasnoning. Your employer gives you money in exchange for the product of your labour. its a trade. I pay money to a theme park, they take the money, and the product of that money belongs to those who gave the money, the public

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#126 gago-gago
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Bring a zip lock bag of dead roaches, buy the food at the theme park or movies, etc., eat your food until you only have one bite to eat, put a roach on your food, tell the manager and get your money back, easy.

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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"] Yes if its the other private property paying for it lol.STAR_Admiral

Since when does being a customer grant them the right to dictate policy on someone else's property?

lawl their property

Whose?
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#128 Famiking
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Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Oleg_Huzwog

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

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#129 Oleg_Huzwog
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"]There is a difference between private property and public "private property" like theme parks. A house you pay for yourself. The theme park is payed for by the public, their money builds the rides and keeps em running. Its the public's park which has been entrusted to a company. Therefore it should follow the public's rules since they pay for it. Sinc when is something your property when someone else pays for it?STAR_Admiral

By your line of reasoning, I DON'T pay for my house by myself. My employer does. It's my employer's money that goes towards the mortgage.

Um no, you worked for that money. its now yours, you don't follow my reasnoning

And the park ownership worked for their money by developing an environment people wish to pay admission for. Yes, I'm following your reasoning perfectly.

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#130 Silent-Hal
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Famiking

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

You have to pay for any food, unless you produce it yourself. Your argument doesn't make any sense.
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#131 FishSquared
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Why is this thread getting so many posts? Private Property = Their rules if you don't want to follow their rules, you don't have to go. It's as simple as that. Just like in some states, it's still legal to not allow certain races into Country Clubs. If it's privately owned in the United States, the owner can do whatever they want as long as they do not break any laws. /thread
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Famiking

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

Because they're not forcing you to purchase it?
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[QUOTE="duxup"]Starve or starve?Famiking
So it's okay as long as we don't die?

I could go to the movies and "starve". Whose fault is that?
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Famiking

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

You don't have to. The choice is yours. Walk back to the car, pay $20, or skip lunch. It's all up to you.

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#135 Famiking
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Yeah, the owner must've worked so hard to get us hungry. And now he is working so hard to get us to pay to satisfy our hunger. My god, how laborious.
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

You have to pay for any food, unless you produce it yourself. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

But the pizza only costs $7, why should i pay $20?
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Yeah, the owner must've worked so hard to get us hungry. And now he is working so hard to get us to pay to satisfy our hunger. My god, how laborious. Famiking
What? You don't a single thing about how a business is run do you?
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#138 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Oleg_Huzwog

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

You don't have to. The choice is yours. Walk back to the car, pay $20, or skip lunch. It's all up to you.

Tell me why I have to walk to the car, why can't I just eat there?
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#139 FishSquared
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Famiking

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

I know being rebellious and all on the Internet is fun, but you have to think about what you're typing every once in a while. It's not like you're being forced to be at the park, you can choose to stay at home and eat food at your house, you can choose to go out to eat somewhere else. >_> Again, private property, you don't have to be there, it's not a necessary expense.
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#140 FishSquared
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

Famiking

You don't have to. The choice is yours. Walk back to the car, pay $20, or skip lunch. It's all up to you.

Tell me why I have to walk to the car, why can't I just eat there?

*facepalm* Because you're on their private property.... >_> What don't you understand about this? It's their rules...
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]Yeah, the owner must've worked so hard to get us hungry. And now he is working so hard to get us to pay to satisfy our hunger. My god, how laborious. Silent-Hal
What? You don't a single thing about how a business is run do you?

And you got that from that post how?
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

You don't have to. The choice is yours. Walk back to the car, pay $20, or skip lunch. It's all up to you.

Oh yes and its okay if i write the greatest book of all time and charge $2000 a copy for it. Oh yes its okay because i am not forcing anyone to buy it. I hate that 'not forced to' argument. If i write the greatest book everyone should be able to read it, and i should receive a decent payment for it. Not just charge whatever the hell i like.
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#143 Silent-Hal
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[QUOTE="Famiking"] Tell me why I have to walk to the car, why can't I just eat there?

Because the private entity that owns the park doesn't want you bringing outside food onto their property. A theme park is a business, so they'll be wanting you to spend money while you're there. It's not hard to understand.
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#144 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="duxup"]Starve or starve?duxup
So it's okay as long as we don't die?

I could go to the movies and "starve". Whose fault is that?

You, for not getting food?
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#145 Silent-Hal
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[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="duxup"] I could go to the movies and "starve". Whose fault is that?

You, for not getting food?

Exactly...
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[QUOTE="Famiking"]

[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]Missing one meal in the middle of the day isn't starvation. Don't be silly.

FishSquared

Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

I know being rebellious and all on the Internet is fun, but you have to think about what you're typing every once in a while. It's not like you're being forced to be at the park, you can choose to stay at home and eat food at your house, you can choose to go out to eat somewhere else. >_> Again, private property, you don't have to be there, it's not a necessary expense.

If a product is being sold I buy it, simple. And even if it is private property, it doesn't mean you should be allowed to impose such arbitrary laws.
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Oh yes and its okay if i write the greatest book of all time and charge $2000 a copy for it. Oh yes its okay because i am not forcing anyone to buy it. I hate that 'not forced to' argument. If i write the greatest book everyone should be able to read it, and i should receive a decent payment for it. Not just charge whatever the hell i like. STAR_Admiral

Yes, yes that is okay. I have no inherent right to read your book.

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[QUOTE="STAR_Admiral"][QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"] Tell me why I should skip a meal because some greedy capitalist decided I should pay $20 for pizza?

You don't have to. The choice is yours. Walk back to the car, pay $20, or skip lunch. It's all up to you.

Oh yes and its okay if i write the greatest book of all time and charge $2000 a copy for it. Oh yes its okay because i am not forcing anyone to buy it. I hate that 'not forced to' argument. If i write the greatest book everyone should be able to read it, and i should receive a decent payment for it. Not just charge whatever the hell i like.

You can charge whatever you like.
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#149 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"][QUOTE="Famiking"] Tell me why I have to walk to the car, why can't I just eat there?

Because the private entity that owns the park doesn't want you bringing outside food onto their property. A theme park is a business, so they'll be wanting you to spend money while you're there. It's not hard to understand.

Exactly why I'm against it. The commoners are suffering because greedy, corrupt, immoral capitalist decided to earn a buck. Our civil liberties are being curved in the name of so called "freedom".
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#150 Sajo7
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[QUOTE="Famiking"] If a product is being sold I buy it, simple. And even if it is private property, it doesn't mean you should be allowed to impose such arbitrary laws.

They're not arbitrary, they want to sell pizza.