Not supporting same sex marriage does NOT make someone a bigot.

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people. I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

Okay...So what does it make you then?megagene

Simply someone who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people.I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

ShadowMoses900

This reminds me of people from like 30-50 years ago, just replace the word gay with black and see how that sentence works.

[QUOTE="megagene"]Okay...So what does it make you then?ShadowMoses900

Simply someone who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Maybe you dont hate them, but you ARE, in a way, saying that theyre lesser than you. Why can they have the same civil rights are straight people? Youre right though, it may not make you a bigot but, no offense, it does make you an a**hole. Cyanide4Suicid3

I do support gay rights. I support civil unions and want them to have all the benefits of marriage. I support their right to live in peace and prosperity and to live a life free from harassment or discrimination (I hate it when people say they want to beat up gays, that's not ok at all).

I just don't support same sex marriage. And all the gay people that know me are aware of my view on this and by no means do they think I'm an ****

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people.I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

StrifeDelivery

This reminds me of people from like 30-50 years ago, just replace the word gay with black and see how that sentence works.

I think liberal politicians just used this topic to gain votes for their own base. Demonize the ones who don't side with them is thier way. We have sheeple that will listen to every word they say too.

[QUOTE="Cyanide4Suicid3"]Maybe you dont hate them, but you ARE, in a way, saying that theyre lesser than you. Why can they have the same civil rights are straight people? Youre right though, it may not make you a bigot but, no offense, it does make you an a**hole. ShadowMoses900

I do support gay rights. I support civil unions and want them to have all the benefits of marriage. I support their right to live in peace and prosperity and to live a life free from harassment or discrimination (I hate it when people say they want to beat up gays, that's not ok at all).

I just don't support same sex marriage. And all the gay people that know me are aware of my view on this and by no means do they think I'm an ****

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people.I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

StrifeDelivery

This reminds me of people from like 30-50 years ago, just replace the word gay with black and see how that sentence works.

Lol not even the same. Gays are NOT the new blacks, black people were forced to sit in different places, were barred from working the same jobs, were forced to live in ghettos etc....

Gays have all the rights as everyone else.

Supporting biggoted policies (namely, denying some one else an opportunity that you have) does make you a biggot.

"I think marriage should be between a man and a woman.... therefore homosexuals can't get married."

Yep that's really a legitimate reason....

I think liberal politicians just used this topic to gain votes for their own base. Demonize the ones who don't side with them is thier way. We have sheeple that will listen to every word they say too.

ristactionjakso

It's even more ironic because most democratic politicians don't support same sex marriage either such as Hilary Clinton, Biden, and even Obama at one point. But they don't call them bigots.

[QUOTE="Cyanide4Suicid3"]Maybe you dont hate them, but you ARE, in a way, saying that theyre lesser than you. Why can they have the same civil rights are straight people? Youre right though, it may not make you a bigot but, no offense, it does make you an a**hole. ShadowMoses900

I do support gay rights. I support civil unions and want them to have all the benefits of marriage. I support their right to live in peace and prosperity and to live a life free from harassment or discrimination (I hate it when people say they want to beat up gays, that's not ok at all).

I just don't support same sex marriage. And all the gay people that know me are aware of my view on this and by no means do they think I'm an ****

Can I legally marry my dog? No? Bunch of bigots..00-Riddick-00

Or can it even legally sign any type of contract?

[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people.I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

ShadowMoses900

This reminds me of people from like 30-50 years ago, just replace the word gay with black and see how that sentence works.

Lol not even the same. Gays are NOT the new blacks, black people were forced to sit in different places, were barred from working the same jobs, were forced to live in ghettos etc....

Gays have all the rights as everyone else.

No they do not, they don't have the right to get married.:P

But no worries, they will have that right pretty soon, just like in other civilised countries.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="megagene"]Okay...So what does it make you then?megagene

Simply someone who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

[QUOTE="megagene"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Simply someone who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

ShadowMoses900

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]Can I legally marry my dog? No? Bunch of bigots..BuryMe

Or can it even legally sign any type of contract?

He has a point. People are calling me a bigot even though I don't hate gay people at all. I just don't believe in gay marriage.

"If you are against illegal immigration you're a racist", "If you don't support gun bans you're a redneck fascist" "If you believe in God you don't believe in science".....there are so many of these demanizing statements that are simply not true.

[QUOTE="megagene"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Simply someone who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

ShadowMoses900

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

1. children are not a necessity of marriage. you can get married without getting children or you can have children without getting married.
2. Religious views don't matter in these secular matters.

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

I think liberal politicians just used this topic to gain votes for their own base. Demonize the ones who don't side with them is thier way. We have sheeple that will listen to every word they say too.

ShadowMoses900

It's even more ironic because most democratic politicians don't support same sex marriage either such as Hilary Clinton, Biden, and even Obama at one point. But they don't call them bigots.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

This reminds me of people from like 30-50 years ago, just replace the word gay with black and see how that sentence works.

TheFlush

Lol not even the same. Gays are NOT the new blacks, black people were forced to sit in different places, were barred from working the same jobs, were forced to live in ghettos etc....

Gays have all the rights as everyone else.

No they do not, they don't have the right to get married.:P

But no worries, they will have that right pretty soon, just like in other civilised countries.

Oh I'm not exactly "opposed" to same sex marriage per se, it doesn't really bother me too much if they do get married. I just don't believe in it and support civil unions instead, though I wouldn't say that they'll get married anytime soon. A lot of people are against same sex marriage, and most of them are not bigots.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="megagene"]

Simply someone who believes that marriage is between a man and a woman.

Rich3232

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]Can I legally marry my dog? No? Bunch of bigots..ShadowMoses900

Or can it even legally sign any type of contract?

He has a point. People are calling me a bigot even though I don't hate gay people at all. I just don't believe in gay marriage.

"If you are against illegal immigration you're a racist", "If you don't support gun bans you're a redneck fascist" "If you believe in God you don't believe in science".....there are so many of these demanizing statements that are simply not true.

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

ShadowMoses900

Those are terrible reasons.

1) If by your own admittance, gays can raise families just fine, then gay marriage has no adverse effects on building a good family.

2) Marriage was a concept that existed long before Christianity or even Judaism and was not the territory of any religious institution. I don't see why a religion should claim authority over it when it was not their authority in the first place.

3) I dont agree with the KKK, but i wont be stopping their right to assemble, communicate, or bar their rights as a citizen.

It just means you think marriage should be between man and woman nothing wrong with that,I don't care what the hell they do tho Bucked20

[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

I often see many (not all) liberals make the claim that if you don't support same-sex marriage you're a homophobic bigot, and this is completely untrue. I believe marriage is between a man and a woman, and by no means do I hate gay people.I work with several gay people, I give one a ride home from work, my girl friend has several gay friends that she invites over sometime that I hang out with, even one of my good friends told me he was gay later and I'm still friends with him.

Would a homophobic do all this? Not supporting gay marriage does NOT mean you hate gays, neither does simply disagreeing with being gay I don't hate them at all. So where are some liberals getting this from? I have seen some of them use similar BS when it comes to illegal immigration and they say everyone that is against it is racist.

ShadowMoses900

This reminds me of people from like 30-50 years ago, just replace the word gay with black and see how that sentence works.

Lol not even the same. Gays are NOT the new blacks, black people were forced to sit in different places, were barred from working the same jobs, were forced to live in ghettos etc....

Gays have all the rights as everyone else.

I find it funny how ShaddowMoses thinks all atheists are teenagers going through a phase and that gay's shouldn't have the same rights as him. Yet he still claims everyone but him is close minded and that he is tolerant of everyone and in no way a bigot.

There is no logical reason to oppose same sex marriage so if you oppose it the only expanation is bigotry.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="megagene"] But what is your reasoning behind this belief? TheFlush

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

1. children are not a necessity of marriage. you can get married without getting children or you can have children without getting married.
2. Religious views don't matter in these secular matters.

1. I know you can get married without children, but marriage is still an important social structure and it's defined as a man and a woman.

2. Whether you like it or not, many of our values do come from religious beliefs. Even in several so called "secular" matters.

yeah I dont support gay marriage either, and my best friend throughout high school was a lesbian.Nengo_Flow

Yes it does. The fact that you need to make a thread trying to prove to everyone that you're not a bigot just reeks of rationalization.

marriage is still an important social structure and it's defined as a man and a woman.ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="00-Riddick-00"]Can I legally marry my dog? No? Bunch of bigots..ShadowMoses900

Or can it even legally sign any type of contract?

He has a point. People are calling me a bigot even though I don't hate gay people at all. I just don't believe in gay marriage.

"If you are against illegal immigration you're a racist", "If you don't support gun bans you're a redneck fascist" "If you believe in God you don't believe in science".....there are so many of these demanizing statements that are simply not true.

As for the other things you said, they have absolutely nothing to do with same sex marriage, so I don't know why you brought them up.

As for your reasons for opposing SSM, they were, quire frankly, terrible. They were all about you ("my regligious beliefs, I feel that marriage..") Luckily for the rest of us, laws aren't made with just you in mind.

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Several.

I believe marriage is an important instution in our soceity and one of the building blocks of good families. Now I am NOT saying that gays are bad parents or anything, I know a gay couple that raise their kids fine and love them, but marriage is still an important social institution that I feel needs to stay in place.

It's against my religious values. God made a man and a woman for a reason, but by no means do I believe in forcing my religious views on others. Seperation of Church and State (though most people that throw out that term don't know what it actually is referring to or where it comes from).

I don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

ShadowMoses900

1. children are not a necessity of marriage. you can get married without getting children or you can have children without getting married.
2. Religious views don't matter in these secular matters.

1. I know you can get married without children, but marriage is still an important social structure and it's defined as a man and a woman.

2. Whether you like it or not, many of our values do come from religious beliefs. Even in several so called "secular" matters.

Many religions support same sex marriage, freedom of religion can't exist with out same sex marriage being allowed.

Yes it does. The fact that you need to make a thread trying to prove to everyone that you're not a bigot just reeks of rationalization.

Aljosa23

No I made this thread to try to enlighten people so they know that just because a person doesn't support gay marriage that doesn't mean they are a hateful or bigoted person.

There are several liberal democrats that oppose it as well, are they bigots too? Do you think Obama was a bigot before he changed his position? (which let's be honest, was probably done for votes).

I find it funny how ShaddowMoses thinks all atheists are teenagers going through a phase and that gay's shouldn't have the same rights as him. Yet he still claims everyone but him is close minded and that he is tolerant of everyone and in no way a bigot.

There is no logical reason to oppose same sex marriage so if you oppose it the only expanation is bigotry.

toast_burner

it makes you moderately bigoted. Sorry bud, I am sure youre a good guy, but the fact is you hold homosexuals to a lower degree than heterosexuals. Freedom and equality are not conditional; either everyone has the same rights, or we are violating the whole concept of equality.