Obama admin bans press from filming BP oil spill areas in the Gulf

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Politics of course.....if it was a safety issue it would come from BP.chessmaster1989

It came from the Coast Guard, not the administration, and is a fairly routine procedure...

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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]I don't even know what "The News Hour" is. I was actually talking about the Wallstreet Journel and the New York Times. Especially The New York Times. I wouldn't use that mag to wipe my ass with.

testfactor888

:lol: now I know you're joking, the NYT is a newpaper. And because the news sections of WSJ and NYT are some of the most respected in the country... well... I don't know what to say.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Politics of course.....if it was a safety issue it would come from BP.LJS9502_basic

It came from the Coast Guard, not the administration, and is a fairly routine procedure...

You say that as though you think Obama directly orders everything in the military. I'm not sure how you could think this. Really, that's just laughable LJ. :lol:

Why would Obama have anything to say about a standard procedure by the Coast Guard? The implication that he's letting it happen because it's convenient is just absurd.

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

:lol: now I know you're joking, the NYT is a newpaper. And because the news sections of WSJ and NYT are some of the most respected in the country... well... I don't know what to say.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/

TheGreatOutdoor

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

:lol: now I know you're joking, the NYT is a newpaper. And because the news sections of WSJ and NYT are some of the most respected in the country... well... I don't know what to say.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/

TheGreatOutdoor

Hmm seems odd.. this goes against the idea of freedom touted by the US.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

It came from the Coast Guard, not the administration, and is a fairly routine procedure...

chessmaster1989

You say that as though you think Obama directly orders everything in the military. I'm not sure how you could think this. Really, that's just laughable LJ. :lol:

Why would Obama have anything to say about a standard procedure by the Coast Guard? The implication that he's letting it happen because it's convenient is just absurd.

The fact that the thread title remains untouched after it's been pointed out several times that Thad Allen ordered the ban and that, as of last night, Thad Allen made an exception in the ban for credentialed reporters disappoints me.scorch-62

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]The fact that the thread title remains untouched after it's been pointed out several times that Thad Allen ordered the ban and that, as of last night, Thad Allen made an exception in the ban for credentialed reporters disappoints me.Jaguar_Shade

I'm a right wing fanatic now? :roll:

This is the first step to Obama's communism :DCrimsader

It's just political maneuvering and testing the fire.

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]The fact that the thread title remains untouched after it's been pointed out several times that Thad Allen ordered the ban and that, as of last night, Thad Allen made an exception in the ban for credentialed reporters disappoints me.Jaguar_Shade

100% Politics. He's right, it'll be easier to hide mistakes. Luckily for the government, most of the public doesn't care anyway.supercubedude64

[QUOTE="scorch-62"]The fact that the thread title remains untouched after it's been pointed out several times that Thad Allen ordered the ban and that, as of last night, Thad Allen made an exception in the ban for credentialed reporters disappoints me.Jaguar_Shade

[QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]The fact that the thread title remains untouched after it's been pointed out several times that Thad Allen ordered the ban and that, as of last night, Thad Allen made an exception in the ban for credentialed reporters disappoints me.testfactor888

Actually, I think she and the other die hards are just scared about the truth and where things are going. Lashing out and name calling comforts them and focus their attention away from reality.

[QUOTE="testfactor888"][QUOTE="Jaguar_Shade"] Well I guess this answers my question. But misrepresenting information is nothing new for right wing fanatics.majwill24

Actually, I think she and the other die hards are just scared about the truth and where things are going. Lashing out and name calling comforts them and focus their attention away from reality.

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[QUOTE="testfactor888"] Yeah cause the left wing fanatics never lie... ever o.O testfactor888

Actually, I think she and the other die hards are just scared about the truth and where things are going. Lashing out and name calling comforts them and focus their attention away from reality.

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[QUOTE="majwill24"]

Actually, I think she and the other die hards are just scared about the truth and where things are going. Lashing out and name calling comforts them and focus their attention away from reality.

IWKYB

This is the first step to Obama's communism :DCrimsader

[spoiler] How did I go? Was I exaggerating enough to beat you? [/spoiler]

it's because filming the oil spill will prove that he's a socialist muslim from Kenya.

This is the first step to Obama's communism :DCrimsader

[QUOTE="Crimsader"]This is the first step to Obama's communism :Dbluezy

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="Crimsader"]This is the first step to Obama's communism :Dkayoticdreamz

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="Serraph105"] these responses are why I wish the TC would edit the topic title.Serraph105

I agree, but it was not Obama that made the order (it was the coast guard), the order has since been taken, and the official reason was about safety. that last reason is especially important because it means without true evidence all this talk about censorship is just speculation.

As I have said before its not speculation without reason, but it simply cannot be proven further than that.

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="Crimsader"]This is the first step to Obama's communism :Dkayoticdreamz

What does that tell us...?

*thinks*

Oh yes; that some people dont know what communism is or yell "socialism!!!! OH NOEZ!!!" the minute an individual socialistic method is being approached falsely assuming an individual instance is enough to create a generalised phenomenon. :|

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="bluezy"] God I hope you're kidding.T_P_O

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"] i do too its more like his millionth step towards communismkayoticdreamz

Uhh... no, he's not a "hardcore leftist"... far from it. :|

i agree with this quote.

" Obama isn't to blame, YOU are.
Our life demand that we pump more and more oil out of the Earth. So, we go deeper and deeper into the ocean. As long as we'll all pay for our DVD cases, and nylons, and gasoline, people will harvest that oil and sell it to us.
When a lot of us have to face that truth, we get angry. We demand that heads roll, but we refuse to take the blame ourselves. So we look for a scapegoat.
Obama's just another scapegoat."

lVlonster_X

Well of course by now it's typical American attitude to blame others rather than ourselves as that quote puts it. perhaps because it hurts to acknowledge that we contribute more than any other nation on earth when it comes to demand of oil due to our lifesty1e which are well beyond our means whether bad economy or not. or perhaps it's because Americans dont bother to think critically, as most my fellow citizens seem to convince themselves that thinking critically is regurgitation what you read in school/newpapers/online or hear on tv/radio. whatever it is, as long as it's more comfortable for them, they sleep better at night and can look at themselves in the mirror

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="bluezy"] God I hope you're kidding.Teenaged

What does that tell us...?

*thinks*

Oh yes; that some people dont know what communism is or yell "socialism!!!! OH NOEZ!!!" the minute an individual socialistic method is being approached falsely assuming an individual instance is enough to create a generalised phenomenon. :|

[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"][QUOTE="T_P_O"] He probably hopes you're kidding too.chessmaster1989

Uhh... no, he's not a "hardcore leftist"... far from it. :|

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[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"] i do too its more like his millionth step towards communismkayoticdreamz

What does that tell us...?

*thinks*

Oh yes; that some people dont know what communism is or yell "socialism!!!! OH NOEZ!!!" the minute an individual socialistic method is being approached falsely assuming an individual instance is enough to create a generalised phenomenon. :|

Also everyone who mentions communism is completely discredited to my eyes at this point since many european nations are socialistic but have stopped there. They havent "fallen" into communism.

Shouting about socialism is just alarmism (one that I dont understand since socialism isnt bad at all) but shouting about communism is flat-out absurd.

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[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"] and im not its quite clear hes a hardcore leftist which = some crazy mix of communism/fascism/socialismkayoticdreamz

Uhh... no, he's not a "hardcore leftist"... far from it. :|

Simple reasoning is simple, that's why it's not fun to read.

Also, so your reasoning is "He's not on our side, therefore, he is on the other ideological side"? He could be from the political center as well, y'know, false dilemmas aren't cool

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[QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"] and im not its quite clear hes a hardcore leftist which = some crazy mix of communism/fascism/socialismkayoticdreamz

Uhh... no, he's not a "hardcore leftist"... far from it. :|

Just a thought...

I dont know how you thought of presenting with this false dichotomy which would serve to discredit Obama altogether since he is neither. Unfortunately for you that train of thought is non-sensical.

[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="kayoticdreamz"] i do too its more like his millionth step towards communismkayoticdreamz

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Yeah cause the left wing fanatics never lie... ever o.O testfactor888

Actually, I think she and the other die hards are just scared about the truth and where things are going. Lashing out and name calling comforts them and focus their attention away from reality.

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

LikeHaterade

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The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

bluezy

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

LikeHaterade

Yeah, I know how you feel. The continuation of warmongering is what disappointed me. I'm tired of hearing from the apologists on why the dramatic increase of drone strikes, patriot act, threats against Iran etc is somehow bad under Bush, but good under Obama.

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

bluezy

I missed it. So will Obama be deeming what is "credentialed" and what isn't?