Obama admin bans press from filming BP oil spill areas in the Gulf

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

LikeHaterade

I missed it. So will Obama be deeming what is "credentialed" and what isn't?

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

majwill24

Yeah, I know how you feel. The continuation of warmongering is what disappointed me. I'm tired of hearing from the apologists on why the dramatic increase of drone strikes, patriot act, threats against Iran etc is somehow bad under Bush, but good under Obama.

Well of course by now it's typical American attitude to blame others rather than ourselves as that quote puts it. perhaps because it hurts to acknowledge that we contribute more than any other nation on earth when it comes to demand of oil due to our lifesty1e

_R34LiTY_

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="bluezy"] You didn't read the post that said Thad Allen, which is a funny way of spelling Barack Obama, ordered the ban and later pulled it back for credentialed media, eh?bluezy

I missed it. So will Obama be deeming what is "credentialed" and what isn't?

[QUOTE="majwill24"]

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

The term "Corporate America" comes to mind here. This is disappointing. As a Gulf coast resident, I have approved Obama and the actions he has taken at this crisis; but not anymore. From Pensacola, FL: **** you Mr. President.

Serraph105

Yeah, I know how you feel. The continuation of warmongering is what disappointed me. I'm tired of hearing from the apologists on why the dramatic increase of drone strikes, patriot act, threats against Iran etc is somehow bad under Bush, but good under Obama.

I expressed sympathy for his disappointment and then expressed the reasons for mine.

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I missed it. So will Obama be deeming what is "credentialed" and what isn't?

LJS9502_basic

Captains don't generally set policy.....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

[QUOTE="bluezy"] You didn't read the post that said Thad Allen, which is a funny way of spelling Barack Obama, ordered the ban and later pulled it back for credentialed media, eh?bluezy

I missed it. So will Obama be deeming what is "credentialed" and what isn't?

Are you trying to be cute? Or did you honestly feel the need to tell me that the president of the United States is not the Coast Guard captain of the Port of New Orleans? Anyways, keep up the good work Mr. President.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Captains don't generally set policy.....bluezy

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="LikeHaterade"]

I missed it. So will Obama be deeming what is "credentialed" and what isn't?

LikeHaterade

Are you trying to be cute? Or did you honestly feel the need to tell me that the president of the United States is not the Coast Guard captain of the Port of New Orleans? Anyways, keep up the good work Mr. President.

[QUOTE="bluezy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Captains don't generally set policy.....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="bluezy"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Captains don't generally set policy.....LJS9502_basic

Anything involving a major disaster and restricts media access is bad politics. thad allen reports to the WH. One of the political wizards would have told him, not to enforce the restriction, regardless of the rules because its bad PR.

The faux respect for rules that limit the media access by the apologist is ridiculous. You know they wouldn't show the same benefit of the doubt if Bush was in office.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="bluezy"] But National Incident Commanders may, which is what Thad Allen is. I assume the captain would just clear the media representatives.

bluezy

You are right EXECPT. The larger more important issue to be completely frank is the conversation about how this event happend in the first place which is a topic I almost never see you guys talking about.

SEANMCAD

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Everyone takes orders......just because one person enforces the order does not mean someone else did not initiate it. Not saying who as I haven't been privy to the chain of command in this case....just saying that because person X made the statement does not inherently mean the premise is incorrect of the thread. It may or may not be....but we have no way of knowing.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="bluezy"] Oh absolutely, but I disagree with the immediate thought from some on this board that Obama must've handed this order down. Not necessarily you, mind you.bluezy

[QUOTE="bluezy"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]He set a bad precedent in this area when he gave NASA orders though so I can't say that it's an unwarranted thought....LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]Lol talk about bad advice all around. Thanks, but no thanks.

TheGreatOutdoor

Are you serious dude? You think that The News Hour, The Wall Street Journal, and The New York Times are bad sources of news but Fox News is not? This has got to be a joke. :lol:

The reason why you trust fox news is because you're so far removed from reality, then when you actually witness less biased news sources, they threaten your twisted world view. Fox News is only accepted to be "valid" news source by Republicans because it cradles misinformed conservative opinion.

What happened to is doctrine of Transparency?..

What happened to is doctrine of Transparency?..Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]What happened to is doctrine of Transparency?..scorch-62

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]What happened to is doctrine of Transparency?..Xx_Hopeless_xX

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="scorch-62"] The Coast Guard's media ban has been lifted for credentialed reporters.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]

[QUOTE="scorch-62"] The Coast Guard's media ban has been lifted for credentialed reporters.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Oh i see...

scorch-62

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Oh i see...

scorch-62

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

Well of course by now it's typical American attitude to blame others rather than ourselves as that quote puts it. perhaps because it hurts to acknowledge that we contribute more than any other nation on earth when it comes to demand of oil due to our lifesty1e

LJS9502_basic

I never saidwe are as condensed. Where you'd get that idea?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="_R34LiTY_"]

Well of course by now it's typical American attitude to blame others rather than ourselves as that quote puts it. perhaps because it hurts to acknowledge that we contribute more than any other nation on earth when it comes to demand of oil due to our lifesty1e

_R34LiTY_

I never saidwe are as condensed. Where you'd get that idea?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"] Oh i see...

scorch-62

So the Coast Guard decides the credentials?..Xx_Hopeless_xX

Then why didn't it happen day one?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then why didn't it happen day one?scorch-62

The Coast Guard will get directives from higher up as to credentials.....

[QUOTE="scorch-62"] [QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then why didn't it happen day one?LJS9502_basic

The Coast Guard will get directives from higher up as to credentials.....

And who's to say the coast guard will get word from higher up? Thad is an admiral after all, i'm pretty sure he makes most of the calls.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="scorch-62"] Nothing was on shore on day one.Ninja-Hippo

The Coast Guard will get directives from higher up as to credentials.....

I think it's important that this wasn't a ban on the MEDIA at all, but a ban on PEOPLE. They don't want *anyone* within 60 feet of the oil, not just the press. I think people are trying to twist this into something it isn't like 90% of Obama criticism these days. Ninja-Hippo

I'm always suspicious of media restrictions. Arbitrary and convenient excuses like this should raise alarm for everyone. If you justify this, then you are OK'ing another President to follow suit and decree that he or she is merely following the rules.

Like I said before, would you be so flippant and callous if Bush Joint chiefs made a rule barring any journalist from the warzone for safety reasons?

And who's to say the coast guard will get word from higher up? Thad is an admiral after all, i'm pretty sure he makes most of the calls.

Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then why didn't it happen day one?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Nothing was on shore on day one.scorch-62

Well said scorch-62.

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I think it's important that this wasn't a ban on the MEDIA at all, but a ban on PEOPLE. They don't want *anyone* within 60 feet of the oil, not just the press. I think people are trying to twist this into something it isn't like 90% of Obama criticism these days. majwill24

I'm always suspicious of media restrictions. Arbitrary and convenient excuses like this should raise alarm for everyone. If you justify this, then you are OK'ing another President to follow suit and decree that he or she is merely following the rules.

Like I said before, would you be so flippant and callous if Bush Joint chiefs made a rule barring any journalist from the warzone for safety reasons?