[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Because there are some terrorists America likes and wants to keep in power.;)DrSpongeLolwut? the sa king is a terrorist because hes muslim, dont u no?
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[QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]IT's rediculous....as an elected leader he represents us....bowing to foriegn leaders is completely wrong....bowing is not respect....it subserviance........I don't expect other countries to bow to us...nor do I expect our leader to bow to another country....FamikingWe bow to Queen Elizabeth the Saudi King should be treated no less. And good god, it's not like this is bad in anyway, there are no disadvantages to what he has done except crazy conservatives saying stupid things.
I think we shouldn't be bowing to any foreign power. My fellow countrymen didn't die 200 years ago just so we could bow down to kings and queens of today. If I was the head of a foreign state and my countrie's policy was to literally kiss my ass... would you still do it because it would be that countries policy?
We bow to Queen Elizabeth the Saudi King should be treated no less. And good god, it's not like this is bad in anyway, there are no disadvantages to what he has done except crazy conservatives saying stupid things.[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="Omni-Slash"]IT's rediculous....as an elected leader he represents us....bowing to foriegn leaders is completely wrong....bowing is not respect....it subserviance........I don't expect other countries to bow to us...nor do I expect our leader to bow to another country....Rec-neps
I think we shouldn't be bowing to any foreign power. My fellow countrymen didn't die 200 years ago just so we could bow down to kings and queens of today. If I was the head of a foreign state and my countrie's policy was to literally kiss my ass... would you still do it because it would be that countries policy?
Just swallow your **** pride and bow. The world would be a better place.I haven't seen you in a while...you still have that same sig too. Of course, you'll have no idea who I am ;) but that doesn't matter, I know you...Wow, this thread is filled with such idiocy that I'm honestly ashamed that my country has produced such ignorant idiots and that they are the generation that are supposed to supercede me.
*claps hands*
Keep it up...children.
drj077
[QUOTE="drj077"]I haven't seen you in a while...you still have that same sig too. Of course, you'll have no idea who I am ;) but that doesn't matter, I know you...Wow, this thread is filled with such idiocy that I'm honestly ashamed that my country has produced such ignorant idiots and that they are the generation that are supposed to supercede me.
*claps hands*
Keep it up...children.
DrSponge
I'm more than a little worried. Just don't pop out of my closest tonight. I'll be ready...:?
[QUOTE="DrSponge"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]Because there are some terrorists America likes and wants to keep in power.;)FamikingLolwut? the sa king is a terrorist because hes muslim, dont u no?No hes one of the worst dictators on Earth, and hes being financed so that he keeps his grip on the country that hates its ruling monarch. Democracy in the Middle East? Why would America want that
No hes one of the worst dictators on Earth, and hes being financed so that he keeps his grip on the country that hates its ruling monarch. Democracy in the Middle East? Why would America want thatFirstDiscoveryThat makes him a terrorist?
And no one should care what the US wants, keep your finger in your own nose.
Every country in ME except SA is a democracy. What do I attribute this to? Natural progression. Asides from what you did to Iraq and Palestine, and we all know how happy those nations are.
OK, in what report is it saying that Cons are upset with this? I'm as conservative as it gets and I see nothing wrong with what he did. It is just respecting their customs. :roll:Cons are upset by this? Really? :lol:
Obama showed respect. Nothing more. Nothing less
LosDaddie
OK, in what report is it saying that Cons are upset with this? I'm as conservative as it gets and I see nothing wrong with what he did. It is just respecting their customs. :roll:[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
Cons are upset by this? Really? :lol:
Obama showed respect. Nothing more. Nothing less
Pirate700
:lol: Are you serious?
If it wasn't for cons,the bow wouldn't even be an "issue"
OK, in what report is it saying that Cons are upset with this? I'm as conservative as it gets and I see nothing wrong with what he did. It is just respecting their customs. :roll:[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
Cons are upset by this? Really? :lol:
Obama showed respect. Nothing more. Nothing less
LosDaddie
:lol: Are you serious?
If it wasn't for cons,the bow wouldn't even be an "issue"
Do you have any facts to back this up? A political affiliation does not make someone clueless to culture. I'm sure there is an equal amount of both sides that have a problem with it.[QUOTE="nimatoad2000"]its the culture of that country. it shows respect. theirs already been a 400 post thread about this. theirs nothing wrong with bowing down. please let it go. george bush used to kiss him on the cheek and hold his hand, amoung other things to help their oil business flurish as well.garaa2007for money of course secone bowing is not the culture of the country they have some weird habits bowing is not one
True. He did it to have loans in order to save companies that suffered from the latest financial crisis.
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]OK, in what report is it saying that Cons are upset with this? I'm as conservative as it gets and I see nothing wrong with what he did. It is just respecting their customs. :roll:
Pirate700
:lol: Are you serious?
If it wasn't for cons,the bow wouldn't even be an "issue"
Do you have any facts to back this up? A political affiliation does not make someone clueless to culture. I'm sure there is an equal amount of both sides that have a problem with it.You're kidding, right? Tell me you're kidding.
But I'll play your little game. Here's what a very quick Google search found: Malkin (aka, the asian Ann Coulter) Disgusted with Obama's Bow There's plenty of links to other conservative websites discussing the Obama Bow at the bottom of the linked page.
Let's be real here.
watch this episode of the colbert report guys and skip to the 5 threats to americapart, obama is #1, it talks about the bowing down
http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/full-episodes/index.jhtml?episodeId=224124
then it says all the things bush did for him and how rediculous it is that were making such a fuss that obama just bowed... colbert ftw.. everyone who thinks the bow was wrong, watch it please
"the president cant degrade himself and our country by bowing to the saudi king, you hold his hand, kiss his cheek, and reorient our entire foreign policy of the last 20 years around securing his oil deposits.
Do you have any facts to back this up? A political affiliation does not make someone clueless to culture. I'm sure there is an equal amount of both sides that have a problem with it.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
:lol: Are you serious?
If it wasn't for cons,the bow wouldn't even be an "issue"
LosDaddie
You're kidding, right? Tell me you're kidding.
But I'll play your little game. Here's what a very quick Google search found: Malkin (aka, the asian Ann Coulter) Disgusted with Obama's Bow There's plenty of links to other conservative websites discussing the Obama Bow at the bottom of the linked page.
Let's be real here.
You didn't answer my question. Do you have any proof that only conservatives have a problem with it? And no I'm not kidding or playing games. Like I said, and you know, I'm as conservative as it gets and I don't see any problem.Oh God forbid Obama show respect to a king of a nation! Oh no because obviously Obama is the highest person of the world! Of course cultural traditions and respect did not play any role in this!!
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Do you have any facts to back this up? A political affiliation does not make someone clueless to culture. I'm sure there is an equal amount of both sides that have a problem with it.
Pirate700
You're kidding, right? Tell me you're kidding.
But I'll play your little game. Here's what a very quick Google search found: Malkin (aka, the asian Ann Coulter) Disgusted with Obama's Bow There's plenty of links to other conservative websites discussing the Obama Bow at the bottom of the linked page.
Let's be real here.
You didn't answer my question. Do you have any proof that only conservatives have a problem with it? And no I'm not kidding or playing games. Like I said, and you know, I'm as conservative as it gets and I don't see any problem.:lol: Wow.....
What you want is a logical fallacy. I cannot prove a negative by proving Dems aren't outraged by the Obama bow.
It seems to me that only cons are making a fuss over it (as I showed in the link). If you have proof of Dems being outraged over this, then by all means share it with us.
That makes him a terrorist?[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]No hes one of the worst dictators on Earth, and hes being financed so that he keeps his grip on the country that hates its ruling monarch. Democracy in the Middle East? Why would America want thatFamiking
And no one should care what the US wants, keep your finger in your own nose.
Every country in ME except SA is a democracy. What do I attribute this to? Natural progression. Asides from what you did to Iraq and Palestine, and we all know how happy those nations are.
Whatever these Arabian leaders are, they are all spineless bastards. Im not saying that they shouldnt be friends with America, its just these leaders are some of the worst in the world, and America wants to keep them in power and is helping them do so. And whos 'you' and what did 'I' ever do to Iraq and Palestine?You didn't answer my question. Do you have any proof that only conservatives have a problem with it? And no I'm not kidding or playing games. Like I said, and you know, I'm as conservative as it gets and I don't see any problem.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
You're kidding, right? Tell me you're kidding.
But I'll play your little game. Here's what a very quick Google search found: Malkin (aka, the asian Ann Coulter) Disgusted with Obama's Bow There's plenty of links to other conservative websites discussing the Obama Bow at the bottom of the linked page.
Let's be real here.
LosDaddie
:lol: Wow.....
What you want is a logical fallacy. I cannot prove a negative by proving Dems aren't outraged by the Obama bow.
It seems to me that only cons are making a fuss over it (as I showed in the link). If you have proof of Dems being outraged over this, then by all means share it with us.
I'm not going to dig up links but to just say Conservatives are ripping on him is idiotic at best. Don't lump all of us into a category with a couple of people who have a problem with it. Conservatives do not have a problem with it. A couple people do that just happen to be conservative. All you're doing is looking at this as an excuse to bash Conservatives.
Why is this such a big deal? He's just showing respect. You have to give respect in order to recieve respect, and we have not given oother countries proper espect in a long time.
does this really surprise anyone? people bashed obama for filling out his march madness bracket.... the opposition will always find stupid crap to rag on the incumbent president for. the same stuff happened with bush... friggin' children :roll: comp_atkins
I couldn't agree more. I'm starting to find all this Obama bashing just as annoying as the Bush bashing. Can't a president do something without getting accused of being satan or a terrorist or Hitler or a communist? :|
Sheesh...
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]You didn't answer my question. Do you have any proof that only conservatives have a problem with it? And no I'm not kidding or playing games. Like I said, and you know, I'm as conservative as it gets and I don't see any problem.
Pirate700
:lol: Wow.....
What you want is a logical fallacy. I cannot prove a negative by proving Dems aren't outraged by the Obama bow.
It seems to me that only cons are making a fuss over it (as I showed in the link). If you have proof of Dems being outraged over this, then by all means share it with us.
I'm not going to dig up links but to just say Conservatives are ripping on him is idiotic at best. Don't lump all of us into a category with a couple of people who have a problem with it. Conservatives do not have a problem with it. A couple people do that just happen to be conservative. All you're doing is looking at this as an excuse to bash Conservatives.
Coming from an admitted partisan like yourself, that's just laughable. Getoff your high horse.
YOu lump all Dems/libs together based off actions of a few all the time.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
:lol: Wow.....
What you want is a logical fallacy. I cannot prove a negative by proving Dems aren't outraged by the Obama bow.
It seems to me that only cons are making a fuss over it (as I showed in the link). If you have proof of Dems being outraged over this, then by all means share it with us.
LosDaddie
I'm not going to dig up links but to just say Conservatives are ripping on him is idiotic at best. Don't lump all of us into a category with a couple of people who have a problem with it. Conservatives do not have a problem with it. A couple people do that just happen to be conservative. All you're doing is looking at this as an excuse to bash Conservatives.
Coming from an admitted partisan like yourself, that's just laughable. Getoff your high horse.
YOu lump all Dems/libs together based off actions of a few all the time.
I do? Hmmm, I'll be sure to watch that next time. :P[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
I'm not going to dig up links but to just say Conservatives are ripping on him is idiotic at best. Don't lump all of us into a category with a couple of people who have a problem with it. Conservatives do not have a problem with it. A couple people do that just happen to be conservative. All you're doing is looking at this as an excuse to bash Conservatives.
Pirate700
Coming from an admitted partisan like yourself, that's just laughable. Getoff your high horse.
YOu lump all Dems/libs together based off actions of a few all the time.
I do? Hmmm, I'll be sure to watch that next time. :PAnd I don't hate ya for it.
It's just what partisans do. Keeps the OT interesting :)
[QUOTE="Famiking"]That makes him a terrorist?[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"]No hes one of the worst dictators on Earth, and hes being financed so that he keeps his grip on the country that hates its ruling monarch. Democracy in the Middle East? Why would America want thatFirstDiscovery
And no one should care what the US wants, keep your finger in your own nose.
Every country in ME except SA is a democracy. What do I attribute this to? Natural progression. Asides from what you did to Iraq and Palestine, and we all know how happy those nations are.
Whatever these Arabian leaders are, they are all spineless bastards. Im not saying that they shouldnt be friends with America, its just these leaders are some of the worst in the world, and America wants to keep them in power and is helping them do so. And whos 'you' and what did 'I' ever do to Iraq and Palestine? I mean 'you' as in your nation. And like I said, all countries in the ME are democracies save for Saudi Arabia and the countries are becoming more liberal by the day.very well said dude, 100% agree.Why is this such a big deal? He's just showing respect. You have to give respect in order to recieve respect, and we have not given oother countries proper espect in a long time.
Benevolentbob
You know Bush held his hand and kissed him. I'm sorry but I find the bow to be far more normal.
kayn83
Yes, they held hands and kissed each other but it was mutual. Obama was the one bowing down while the King did not. BTW, no other president have bowed down to the Saudi King, Obama is the very first. There is a video of Bush lowering his head but it was to accept some big ass pendant necklace thing.
[QUOTE="GD-1369211121"]It's these funny things called "respect" and "culture". Honestly, why is this topic so controversial? Have Americans gone that far out of touch with the world? Bowing in Saudi Arabia or in any other Islamic country is not really acceptable between human beings. You only bow to God. The King is not God.Wtf? can someone please explain to me why he would do that?
scorch-62
Bowing in Saudi Arabia or in any other Islamic country is not really acceptable between human beings. You only bow to God. The King is not God.GrindingAxe"You" as in the people of the Islamic nations, yes. "You" as in people who show a general sign of respect to other people, no.
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="GD-1369211121"]It's these funny things called "respect" and "culture". Honestly, why is this topic so controversial? Have Americans gone that far out of touch with the world? Bowing in Saudi Arabia or in any other Islamic country is not really acceptable between human beings. You only bow to God. The King is not God.Wtf? can someone please explain to me why he would do that?
GrindingAxe
So the king should be bowing to Obama then? :lol:
[QUOTE="GrindingAxe"]Bowing in Saudi Arabia or in any other Islamic country is not really acceptable between human beings. You only bow to God. The King is not God.scorch-62"You" as in the people of the Islamic nations, yes. "You" as in people who show a general sign of respect to other people, no. Yeah, basically they give a free pass to people who don't know any better that bow, but its still frowned upon over there. He should of just stuck with the handshake. Thats part of their culture over there too.
Yeah, basically they give a free pass to people who don't know any better that bow, but its still frowned upon over there. He should of just stuck with the handshake. Thats part of their culture over there too.GrindingAxeYou make it sound like one more country that hates the US is going to hurt. :P
its the culture of that country. it shows respect. theirs already been a 400 post thread about this. theirs nothing wrong with bowing down. please let it go. george bush used to kiss him on the cheek and hold his hand, amoung other things to help their oil business flurish as well.nimatoad2000
Exactly. Why do people even care about something as petty as bowing down? :|
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