Obama May Ditch Most US Nukes

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#51 Necrifer
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Why not. If we just nuke the entire mountains and stuff in Afghanistan we're bound to kill a few.

Crunchy_Nuts

Terrorists can live anywhere. Not just the Middle East. What if your neighbor was a terrorist?

And destroying a country because of the actions ofa few is bad.

I have the suspicion that you weren't serious anyway...

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#52 Crunchy_Nuts
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[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"]

Why not. If we just nuke the entire mountains and stuff in Afghanistan we're bound to kill a few.

Necrifer

Terrorists can live anywhere. Not just the Middle East. What if your neighbor was a terrorist?

And destroying a country because of the actions ofa few is bad.

I have the suspicion that you weren't serious anyway...

I'm dead serious. If he's your neighbour then just use a grenade instead of a nuke.
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#53 Mikey132
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[QUOTE="Mikey132"]

Cool, so the rest of the world can begin drafting Invasion plans?

Wasdie

Nobody will be invading for many reasons.

Number 1: We have 2 massive oceans surrounding us and no other nation has the force projection they would need to land an invasion force.

Number 2: We have the largest navy in the world. You can combine the next 5 navies together and they still aren't nearly the size of ours.

Number 3: There is absolutly no economic gain in invading a country and taking it's resources today

Number 4: There is no military in the world that could handle an occupation of a nation of this size.

There are many more reasons. We don't need thousands of nukes. We just need a strong military like we have now. Nukes are a product of the cold war, and expensive one at that.

Dang, sarcasm. Didn't mean it.

You did forget one thing however. Canada can open the back door to the U.S for the Russians if we felt like it ;)

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#54 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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What if I want to blow up the world seven times over?
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#55 Necrifer
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I'm dead serious.

Crunchy_Nuts

No, you're not.

If he's your neighbour then just use a grenade instead of a nuke.

Crunchy_Nuts

First, we were talking about the application of nukes. Second, that's illegal in many cases.

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#56 Kh1ndjal
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[QUOTE="Necrifer"]

[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"]

Why not. If we just nuke the entire mountains and stuff in Afghanistan we're bound to kill a few.

Crunchy_Nuts

Terrorists can live anywhere. Not just the Middle East. What if your neighbor was a terrorist?

And destroying a country because of the actions ofa few is bad.

I have the suspicion that you weren't serious anyway...

I'm dead serious. If he's your neighbour then just use a grenade instead of a nuke.

that's what they're doing now. what's your point? use the more expensive and inefficient method?
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#57 JasonDarksavior
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I'm all supportive for dismantling nukes. In 2009 there was another massive dismantling project. Nukes are horrific ... Just horrifying thinking about the effects of a single nuclear weapon being released.
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#58 Lonelynight
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Considering that the US probably has enough nukes to destroy the world ten times over, I don't see the problem with reducing a few.
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#59 Serraph105
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uh......yeah? This is nothing new. Part of his campaign promises was to vastly reduce the world's (aka not just the US) supply of nuclear warheads. In fact he has been working on this since his first year in office.

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#60 NEWMAHAY
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having enough nukes to decimate the planet is uncalled for We have much more effective weapons without the massive collateral damage a nuke would cause.
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#61 THE_DRUGGIE
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]

Well when I said "disposal" I meant breaking down the nukes with care.

Also, please stop quoting Wasdie, it kind of depreciates the fact that I'm adblocking him.

tenaka2

Aww. It's like he's a little 5 year old with his fingers in his ears going "LALALALALALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALAALAL"

Wasn't me.

lol, I can hear him now.

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#62 Sajo7
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I should hope so, it's embarrassing to talk about other states' nuclear programs while we have an absurdly unnecessary amount.
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#63 whipassmt
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Is this to save money? Also I could see getting rid of or replacing old nukes. However I don't think we should unilaterally drawdown our nukes, we should enter into agreements with other countries where all sides would decrease their nukes.

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#64 ristactionjakso
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Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

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#65 Am_Confucius
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"] My mistake, i got mixed up with missiles. But point still stands, once one country runs out of nukes and the other is still fully loaded, they're screwed.

So you would rather see U.S.A. wipe out humanity than any other country?
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#66 brickdoctor
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Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

ristactionjakso

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, Russia already has more active nukes and total warheads than us already. Not that is matters. Ooh, America only has 8,500 while Russia has 11,000. :roll: I'm pretty sure you'd run out of targets before you could use up that stockpile.

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#67 ristactionjakso
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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

brickdoctor

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, Russia already has more active nukes and total warheads than us already. Not that is matters. Ooh, America only has 8,500 while Russia has 11,000. :roll: I'm pretty sure you'd run out of targets before you could use up that stockpile.

So, if anything, we should be making more.

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Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

ristactionjakso

If you had bothered to read the article you would have saw where it stated that nothing was likely to happen before new negotiations with Russia.

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#69 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

ristactionjakso

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, Russia already has more active nukes and total warheads than us already. Not that is matters. Ooh, America only has 8,500 while Russia has 11,000. :roll: I'm pretty sure you'd run out of targets before you could use up that stockpile.

So, if anything, we should be making more.

do you just try to make yourself sound like a republican cliche?
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#70 chessmaster1989
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lol oh man we'll only have 1500 nukes whatever will we do
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#71 branketra
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About time.
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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, Russia already has more active nukes and total warheads than us already. Not that is matters. Ooh, America only has 8,500 while Russia has 11,000. :roll: I'm pretty sure you'd run out of targets before you could use up that stockpile.

Serraph105

So, if anything, we should be making more.

do you just try to make yourself sound like a republican cliche?

So you rather us be weaker or something? Reduce our stockpile while other countries increase their stockpile.

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#73 comp_atkins
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the cold war era military industrial complex is/was a huge industry. not surprising some politicians would freak out over bits of it being reduced...
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#74 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

ristactionjakso

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, Russia already has more active nukes and total warheads than us already. Not that is matters. Ooh, America only has 8,500 while Russia has 11,000. :roll: I'm pretty sure you'd run out of targets before you could use up that stockpile.

So, if anything, we should be making more.

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#75 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]So, if anything, we should be making more.

ristactionjakso

do you just try to make yourself sound like a republican cliche?

So you rather us be weaker or something? Reduce our stockpile while other countries increase their stockpile.

try reading the article.
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#76 branketra
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the cold war era military industrial complex is/was a huge industry. not surprising some politicians would freak out over bits of it being reduced...comp_atkins
Right.
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#77 Randolph
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[QUOTE="kris9031998"] My mistake, i got mixed up with missiles. But point still stands, once one country runs out of nukes and the other is still fully loaded, they're screwed.

President Kennedy: "I have enough nukes to destroy your country ten times over" Leader of the Soviet Union: "I have enough to destroy your country once, and that's all I need"
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#78 Kh1ndjal
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]So, if anything, we should be making more.

ristactionjakso

do you just try to make yourself sound like a republican cliche?

So you rather us be weaker or something? Reduce our stockpile while other countries increase their stockpile.

reduction of stockpile will not make the US weaker
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#79 CptJSparrow
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I don't understand this. Having nuclear weapons is a good thing in case terrorists attack.Crunchy_Nuts
That's like shooting a fly with a bazooka... actually, like shooting a fly with a Davy Crockett.
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#80 comp_atkins
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a crappy computer figures it out in 1982 and we're still going in circles... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHWjlCaIrQo

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#81 redstorm72
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You could still wipe out every major city on the planet with 400 nukes, so I don't see why this is much of an issue.

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#82 codymcclain14
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Worst thing that's came out of Obama's mouth... and that's saying something.
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Worst thing that's came out of Obama's mouth... and that's saying something.codymcclain14

WAT

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#84 worlock77
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Worst thing that's came out of Obama's mouth... and that's saying something.codymcclain14

And what about all our military leaders recommending this?

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#85 codymcclain14
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[QUOTE="codymcclain14"]Worst thing that's came out of Obama's mouth... and that's saying something.worlock77

And what about all our military leaders recommending this?

My comment was ment to be taken pervertedly, not serious.
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#86 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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We don't have 70,000 nukes, morons.

:lol:

Last I checked there were only 19,000 in the entire world.

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#87 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"]Worst thing that's came out of Obama's mouth... and that's saying something.codymcclain14

And what about all our military leaders recommending this?

My comment was ment to be taken pervertedly, not serious.

Or you're just an idiot. For example this second post of yours here doesn't even make sense.

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#88 worlock77
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We don't have 70,000 nukes, morons.

:lol:

Last I checked there were only 19,000 in the entire world.

airshocker

I think people are confusing the number of warheads built over the decades to the number stockpiled and actively deployed.

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#89 codymcclain14
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

And what about all our military leaders recommending this?

My comment was ment to be taken pervertedly, not serious.

Or you're just an idiot. For example this second post of yours here doesn't even make sense.

? what the f*ck?... I was joking. as if, "things" has been in Obama's mouth. What I said was a joke, and ment to be perverted... I wasn't saying it as a real opinion, or was being serious. what the f*ck do you not get?
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#90 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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I think people are confusing the number of warheads built over the decades to the number stockpiled and actively deployed.

worlock77

Sounds likely.

They're still morons, though.

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#91 fidosim
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Pretty inconsequential.
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#92 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"] My comment was ment to be taken pervertedly, not serious.codymcclain14

Or you're just an idiot. For example this second post of yours here doesn't even make sense.

? what the f*ck?... I was joking. as if, "things" has been in Obama's mouth. What I said was a joke, and ment to be perverted... I wasn't saying it as a real opinion, or was being serious. what the f*ck do you not get?

If you have to explain a joke then it's a sh*tty joke.

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#93 codymcclain14
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

Or you're just an idiot. For example this second post of yours here doesn't even make sense.

? what the f*ck?... I was joking. as if, "things" has been in Obama's mouth. What I said was a joke, and ment to be perverted... I wasn't saying it as a real opinion, or was being serious. what the f*ck do you not get?

If you have to explain a joke then it's a sh*tty joke.

Or you're just to much of a dumbass to get it? ... besides, only perverts would get that joke probably. You don't have to be a d*ck about it. so STFU. :) But in my real opinion, we shouldn't cut down our nukes... So if you wanna bash that opinion, go ahead jefff-row.
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[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Russia and USA are neck in nck with the amount of nukes. Russia will have the upper hand, and Obama knows it.

ristactionjakso

If Wikipedia is to be trusted, Russia already has more active nukes and total warheads than us already. Not that is matters. Ooh, America only has 8,500 while Russia has 11,000. :roll: I'm pretty sure you'd run out of targets before you could use up that stockpile.

So, if anything, we should be making more.

I want to know the your thinking process to come up with that statement
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"] ? what the f*ck?... I was joking. as if, "things" has been in Obama's mouth. What I said was a joke, and ment to be perverted... I wasn't saying it as a real opinion, or was being serious. what the f*ck do you not get?codymcclain14

If you have to explain a joke then it's a sh*tty joke.

Or you're just to much of a dumbass to get it? ... besides, only perverts would get that joke probably. You don't have to be a d*ck about it. so STFU. :) But in my real opinion, we shouldn't cut down our nukes... So if you wanna bash that opinion, go ahead jefff-row.

Ether you simply don't understand humor or you're painfully trying to cover a stupid comment. Ether way you're an idiot (as evidenced by your Facebook/mom thread. And yeah, I do have to be a dick about it.

And your opinion holds more water than that of the Pentagon how?

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[QUOTE="codymcclain14"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

If you have to explain a joke then it's a sh*tty joke.

worlock77

Or you're just to much of a dumbass to get it? ... besides, only perverts would get that joke probably. You don't have to be a d*ck about it. so STFU. :) But in my real opinion, we shouldn't cut down our nukes... So if you wanna bash that opinion, go ahead jefff-row.

Ether you simply don't understand humor or you're painfully trying to cover a stupid comment. Ether way you're an idiot (as evidenced by your Facebook/mom thread. And yeah, I do have to be a dick about it.

And your opinion holds more water than that of the Pentagon how?

You would think a loving Christian who follows Jesus' teachings would rather there be less weapons of mass destruction on the Earth...

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#97 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="codymcclain14"] Or you're just to much of a dumbass to get it? ... besides, only perverts would get that joke probably. You don't have to be a d*ck about it. so STFU. :) But in my real opinion, we shouldn't cut down our nukes... So if you wanna bash that opinion, go ahead jefff-row.whiskeystrike

Ether you simply don't understand humor or you're painfully trying to cover a stupid comment. Ether way you're an idiot (as evidenced by your Facebook/mom thread. And yeah, I do have to be a dick about it.

And your opinion holds more water than that of the Pentagon how?

You would think a loving Christian who follows Jesus' teachings would rather there be less weapons of mass destruction on the Earth...

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#98 Blue-Sky
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The benefit to nukes is determent. We don't need to have a lot of nukes, we just need to stop others from getting one.

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#100 codymcclain14
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[QUOTE="codymcclain14"][QUOTE="worlock77"]

If you have to explain a joke then it's a sh*tty joke.

worlock77

Or you're just to much of a dumbass to get it? ... besides, only perverts would get that joke probably. You don't have to be a d*ck about it. so STFU. :) But in my real opinion, we shouldn't cut down our nukes... So if you wanna bash that opinion, go ahead jefff-row.

Ether you simply don't understand humor or you're painfully trying to cover a stupid comment. Ether way you're an idiot (as evidenced by your Facebook/mom thread. And yeah, I do have to be a dick about it.

And your opinion holds more water than that of the Pentagon how?

I do understand humor. Lol. It's very funny that someone on OT tells me I have no humor. If OT would grow a sense of humor, you'd understand. F*cker. And no you don't have to be a dick. Everyone is stating a opinion, weither it's a opinion, or a joke. doesn't mean you have to argue against it.

And your opinion is like a a$$hole everyones got one. So I dont give a f*ck.