Obama or Palin -- Who Has More Experience?

Obama: Was president of Harvard Law Review and practising civil rights attorney until 1997. Taught Constitutional Law for 12 years. Served in the Illinois senate for seven years, became a Junior Senator in 2004.

Palin: Was on the Alaska city council for four years, mayor of Wasilla, Alaska for six years, chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission from 2003 to 2004 while also serving as Ethics Supervisor of the commission, is currently the head of the Alaskan National Guard, and was the City Manager at the same time that she was Mayor. She was elected President of the Alaska Conference of Mayors by the other mayors of Alaska during her second term. She served on the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission and was the Chairman of the Alaska Municipal League Board. She has been governor of Alaska for 2 years.

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Completely assuming that John McCain will die should he be elected, who do you think is more prepared to handle the role of President: Barack Obama or Sarah Palin, both firsts in history?

When I saw the name Palin I thought of Michael Palin from Monty Python.KG86

Me too. I thought he was going to claim that Michael Palin is better suited to be president because of his travel experience.

[QUOTE="KG86"]When I saw the name Palin I thought of Michael Palin from Monty Python.Funky_Llama

Me too. I thought he was going to claim that Michael Palin is better suited to be president because of his travel experience.

Hehe yes, that would be an interesting thread.

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Scarker

Link?

It's sad for Obama that his experience is so lacking he has to be compared to a vise presidential candidate. :lol:Pirate700

And even then, he still falls short. . . .

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]It's sad for Obama that his experience is so lacking he has to be compared to a vise presidential candidate. :lol:Theokhoth

And even then, he still falls short. . . .

[QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Theokhoth

Link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9pnzQ96kWA

Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? halfirishhomer

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? xXBuffJeffXx

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

darkodonnie

Link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9pnzQ96kWA

obama's new ad.

she has no experience when it comes to foreign policy and other important things that are basically needed for a VP.Tjeremiah1988

Obama has less experience in foreign policy than even her.:|

she has no experience when it comes to foreign policy and other important things that are basically needed for a VP.Tjeremiah1988

And Obama Does, After all he's spent 1 year sitting in a room listening to speeches and voting and another year traveling America and went to Iraq because McCain realised that he's never been to the main foreign area that affect America..

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? Pirate700

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

Putting your life on the line for your country isn't fungible presidential experience. Millions have done that. Does that make them qualified to lead a superpower of millions in the 21st century? Being involved in politics might facilitate maneuvering around institutional inertia and getting things done, but every president has hundreds of advisors to foster this. No president can live up to the super-human expectations of the institution of the presidency. He is nothing more than a figurehead who makes decisions based on the opinions of think tanks, interest groups, and advisors.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? xXBuffJeffXx

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

Putting your life on the line for your country isn't fungible presidential experience. Millions have done that. Does that make them qualified to lead a superpower of millions in the 21st century? Being involved in politics might facilitate maneuvering around institutional inertia and getting things done, but every president has hundreds of advisors to foster this. No president can live up to the super-human expectations of the institution of the presidency. He is nothing more than a figurehead who makes opinions based on the opinions of think tanks, interest groups, and advisors.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

darkodonnie

Link?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9pnzQ96kWA

The fact that she's already making public blunders like this doesn't bde well for the campaign.

Also, experience as a sole credential should be irrelevant if you disagree with the policies the candidate has formulated. Maybe McCain does have more experience, but is it the right experience? Has he made the right choices? xXBuffJeffXx

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"][QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? Pirate700

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

Putting your life on the line for your country isn't fungible presidential experience. Millions have done that. Does that make them qualified to lead a superpower of millions in the 21st century? Being involved in politics might facilitate maneuvering around institutional inertia and getting things done, but every president has hundreds of advisors to foster this. No president can live up to the super-human expectations of the institution of the presidency. He is nothing more than a figurehead who makes opinions based on the opinions of think tanks, interest groups, and advisors.

Look, I dislike Obama's platform, so I don't want to be viewed as an Obama constituent, but the fact of the matter is that experience should not be the sole credential for a candidate. This is particularly true when neither candidate has any legitimate executive experience, which presidential scholars believe to be the most consequential. Besides, if a new candidate with relatively little experience surrounds himself with experienced advisors and is running on an exemplary platform, shouldn't he get the vote over a guy who has a significant amount of experience in making poor policy choices?

Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. She has a skankie picture on the web that will quickly come into question and she loves to kill animals. Man, I cant wait for the debates!Tjeremiah1988

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. She has a skankie picture on the web that will quickly come into question and she loves to kill animals. Man, I cant wait for the debates!Pirate700

and she loves "Moose Stew".

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]Also, experience as a sole credential should be irrelevant if you disagree with the policies the candidate has formulated. Maybe McCain does have more experience, but is it the right experience? Has he made the right choices? Pirate700

Yeah...? I answered the question. Palin has more experience. I decided to turn the thread in a different direction because I don't feel the foundation of the argument that experience alone is desirable in a candidate is strong.

Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. Tjeremiah1988

People do their research. Attempt to grab Hillary supporters?:lol: Yeah, they went with the far-right Conservative who opposes abortion, gay marriage and advocates the death penalty; I'm certain it was for the Hillary supporters!

It was for the Conservatives who believed McCain to be too moderate, and it worked.

Sure, she'll get some Hillary supporters as well, mainly the more conservative ones.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. She has a skankie picture on the web that will quickly come into question and she loves to kill animals. Man, I cant wait for the debates!Tjeremiah1988

and she loves "Moose Stew".

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. She has a skankie picture on the web that will quickly come into question and she loves to kill animals. Man, I cant wait for the debates!Pirate700

She was actually hunting when she was told she was picked for VP.

Let's hope she's better than Dick Cheney. >.>

[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. She has a skankie picture on the web that will quickly come into question and she loves to kill animals. Man, I cant wait for the debates!Theokhoth

She was actually hunting when she was told she was picked for VP.

[QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Theokhoth

Link?

"What is it exactly that the VP does?"

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Scarker

Link?

"What is it exactly that the VP does everyday?"

You're kinda late. . . .

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. Theokhoth

People do their research. Attempt to grab Hillary supporters?:lol: Yeah, they went with the far-right Conservative who opposes abortion, gay marriage and advocates the death penalty; I'm certain it was for the Hillary supporters!

It was for the Conservatives who believed McCain to be too moderate, and it worked.

Sure, she'll get some Hillary supporters as well, mainly the more conservative ones.

and she also goes against what McCain stand for.Also, I do see it as a desperate attempt because he only talked to her for only a day or two before deciding while the other VP candidates were in questioned for months and just last week one by one were taken off the list.

[QUOTE="Scarker"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Theokhoth

Link?

"What is it exactly that the VP does everyday?"

You're kinda late. . . .

Obama is late with his new ad.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Tjeremiah1988"]Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. Tjeremiah1988

People do their research. Attempt to grab Hillary supporters?:lol: Yeah, they went with the far-right Conservative who opposes abortion, gay marriage and advocates the death penalty; I'm certain it was for the Hillary supporters!

It was for the Conservatives who believed McCain to be too moderate, and it worked.

Sure, she'll get some Hillary supporters as well, mainly the more conservative ones.

and she also goes against what McCain stand for.Also, I do see it as a desperate attempt because he only talked to her for only a day or two before deciding while the other VP candidates were in questioned for months and just last week one by one were taken off the list.

Obama and Biden don't exactly agree, either.

how do you know how long he talked to her?halfirishhomer

When I saw the name Palin I thought of Michael Palin from Monty Python.KG86

[QUOTE="KG86"]When I saw the name Palin I thought of Michael Palin from Monty Python.Funky_Llama

Me too. I thought he was going to claim that Michael Palin is better suited to be president because of his travel experience.

I though exactly the ssame :p

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]how do you know how long he talked to her?Pirate700

read it on, CNN,NBC, and ABC the other day and many confirmed it.

[QUOTE="Scarker"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="Scarker"]

Didn't Palin say on camera that she didn't know what a VP does?

Obama.

Theokhoth

Link?

"What is it exactly that the VP does everyday?"

You're kinda late. . . .

By a couple posts, yes. Either way, Palin doesn't even know what the Vice President does everyday. If McCain were to not be able to take the place of president anymore if he was elected, I wouldn't want a person who doesn't even know what a VP does to be a president.

That's good enough reason to not vote for McCain.