Obama or Palin -- Who Has More Experience?

Regardless McCain wont win. Many dont even know of her and McCain only talked to her 1-2 days before deciding :| This was obviously a desperate attempt to grab Hilary supporters. Also she clearly stated she doesnt know what a V.P does :|. She has a skankie picture on the web that will quickly come into question and she loves to kill animals. Man, I cant wait for the debates!Tjeremiah1988

Proof? Were you there for the only 2 days McCain talked to Palin?

And do you know how busy a Presidential Candidate can be?

Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?Isbrealiompie

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?Theokhoth

I'm not.:| Do you see any bias in my poll or OP?

in 2 days you made 2 anti obama threads so umm yea just a wee-bit

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]

It indeed will draw hilary supporters, I like how people think voters actually do research, I'd go so far to say, 50% of Hilary supporters were only voting for her because she was a woman.. And those are the people McCain is trying to reach out to.

TBoogy

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?Dub_c6969

Because nobody likes a raving socialist.

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?Dub_c6969

Um. . . .I nitpick every little thing Obama does whenever some Obama zombie says something like "lol, McCain can't remember how many houses he haz!!"

The reason for that is to show howpeople are being hypocritical, giving Obama a free pass at evey mistake he makes but lashing at McCain whenever he says "yes" instead of "yea."

[QUOTE="ElBanano216"]

Sounds like bias to me~

Genetic_Code

He started the thread without much of a bias then he proceeded with his opinion in later replies.

EDIT: in all hes other threads also.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?sparkypants

I'm not.:| Do you see any bias in my poll or OP?

in 2 days you made 2 anti obama threads so umm yea just a wee-bit

Really? And they are?

"Why should I vote for Obama" was to show that people who support Obama very rarely actually do so based on his policies, and rather just follow the crowd.

This thread isn't anti-Obama at all.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?sparkypants

I'm not.:| Do you see any bias in my poll or OP?

in 2 days you made 2 anti obama threads so umm yea just a wee-bit

Really? And they are?

"Why should I vote for Obama" was to show that people who support Obama very rarely actually do so based on his policies, and rather just follow the crowd.

This thread isn't anti-Obama at all.

Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Really? And they are?

"Why should I vote for Obama" was to show that people who support Obama very rarely actually do so based on his policies, and rather just follow the crowd.

This thread isn't anti-Obama at all.

LJS9502_basic

And I'm sure he is the only one on the OT board that is biased when it comes to politics.

/sarcasm

Yea but if you go back in read ALL of theo's post you will see what he means.Dub_c6969

And if you read those posts, you'd see why he says what he means. You wouldn't be so curious as to why. He's laid out both facts and his opinion to show you why he's anti-Obama.

[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"][QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? Pirate700

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

Putting your life on the line for your country isn't fungible presidential experience. Millions have done that. Does that make them qualified to lead a superpower of millions in the 21st century? Being involved in politics might facilitate maneuvering around institutional inertia and getting things done, but every president has hundreds of advisors to foster this. No president can live up to the super-human expectations of the institution of the presidency. He is nothing more than a figurehead who makes opinions based on the opinions of think tanks, interest groups, and advisors.

Which includes you, which means your opinion doesn't really matter, right? Obama has more experience. I don't even want to argue why Palin shouldn't be a VP choice...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Really? And they are?

"Why should I vote for Obama" was to show that people who support Obama very rarely actually do so based on his policies, and rather just follow the crowd.

This thread isn't anti-Obama at all.

hokies1313

And I'm sure he is the only one on the OT board that is biased when it comes to politics.

/sarcasm

[QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"][QUOTE="Pirate700"][QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

[QUOTE="halfirishhomer"]Can someone name one thing Obama's done for this country that qualifies him to be president? WINDWAKER1

What has anyone ever done that categorically qualifies them to be president? Nothing. The best demagogue wins.

Putting your life on the line for your country isn't fungible presidential experience. Millions have done that. Does that make them qualified to lead a superpower of millions in the 21st century? Being involved in politics might facilitate maneuvering around institutional inertia and getting things done, but every president has hundreds of advisors to foster this. No president can live up to the super-human expectations of the institution of the presidency. He is nothing more than a figurehead who makes opinions based on the opinions of think tanks, interest groups, and advisors.

Which includes you, which means your opinion doesn't really matter, right? Obama has more experience. I don't even want to argue why Palin shouldn't be a VP choice...

Atleast Palin has experience running a state or executive branch. Obama has....none. I asked this in an earlier thread and I'll ask it again, what is the President but America's Governor?

Atleast Palin has experience running a state or executive branch. Obama has....none. I asked this in an earlier thread and I'll ask it again, what is the President but America's Governor?

hokies1313

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]

Yea but if you go back in read ALL of theo's post you will see what he means.Genetic_Code

And if you read those posts, you'd see why he says what he means. You wouldn't be so curious as to why. He's laid out both facts and his opinion to show you why he's anti-Obama.

[QUOTE="sparkypants"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?Theokhoth

I'm not.:| Do you see any bias in my poll or OP?

in 2 days you made 2 anti obama threads so umm yea just a wee-bit

Really? And they are?

"Why should I vote for Obama" was to show that people who support Obama very rarely actually do so based on his policies, and rather just follow the crowd.

This thread isn't anti-Obama at all.

the other one was anti obama you even target other people's pro obama reasons as irrelevant and passed it off. here well you started fair...which is good, but you slowly started showing that anti obama spirit.

You have to admit they both have some "goods" and they both have some "bads".Dub_c6969

[QUOTE="hokies1313"]

Atleast Palin has experience running a state or executive branch. Obama has....none. I asked this in an earlier thread and I'll ask it again, what is the President but America's Governor?

LJS9502_basic

Not quite, but damn close. Deal with foreign leaders and issues, deal with armed forces, deal with trade, environment, education, etc.

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]

Yea but if you go back in read ALL of theo's post you will see what he means.Dub_c6969

And if you read those posts, you'd see why he says what he means. You wouldn't be so curious as to why. He's laid out both facts and his opinion to show you why he's anti-Obama.

I believe I've stated before that I hate both candidates.:roll:

Say anything negative about Obama and you're glorifying McCain, now?

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]You have to admit they both have some "goods" and they both have some "bads".famicommander

Edit. Try and convince Obama supporters that there is nothing good about Obama, You cant and why is that.

Obama has more experience. I don't even want to argue why Palin shouldn't be a VP choice...WINDWAKER1

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]You have to admit they both have some "goods" and they both have some "bads".Dub_c6969

the other one was anti obama you even target other people's pro obama reasons as irrelevant and passed it off. here well you started fair...which is good, but you slowly started showing that anti obama spirit.

sparkypants

Because their "reasons" were along the lines of "he helps his landlady with the garbage." It's politically irrelevant.

The other thread did not start off as anti-Obama. . .I listed his own positions, statements and voting records and posted my opinions.

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]You have to admit they both have some "goods" and they both have some "bads".famicommander

Not quite, but damn close. Deal with foreign leaders and issues, deal with armed forces, deal with trade, environment, education, etc.

hokies1313

Theokoth: You still need to edit the OP. You left out Palin's time as the head of the Alaskan National Guard and the President of the Alaskan Council of Mayors.famicommander

How long was she in those positions?

[QUOTE="Dub_c6969"][QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="Dub_c6969"]You have to admit they both have some "goods" and they both have some "bads".famicommander

He says nothing better than anyone else!

Oh wait.. that isn't a good thing...

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Theokoth: You still need to edit the OP. You left out Palin's time as the head of the Alaskan National Guard and the President of the Alaskan Council of Mayors.Theokhoth

How long was she in those positions?

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="famicommander"]Theokoth: You still need to edit the OP. You left out Palin's time as the head of the Alaskan National Guard and the President of the Alaskan Council of Mayors.famicommander

How long was she in those positions?

Updated.:)

Obama supporters: so I don't get accused of "teh bias" for posting more info on Palin than Obama, you're free to tell me what you'd like to have added to his profile, as long as it is politcally relevant to his leadership skills (so if he saved a kitten from a tree in 1975, I'm not putting that up).

On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president. smarb001

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?smarb001

I'm not.:| Do you see any bias in my poll or OP?

wow, are you kidding me? You're as much a blind McCain fanboy as the countless Obama fans. Less experience =/= bad president. Some of the best presidents in history were unexperienced. Lincoln anyone? You could draw many similarities between Obama and Lincoln in fact. They both want change, they're both hated for it by the blinded racists, or Neo-cons as they are now known, and are both dismissed because of "lack of experience". Since when is experience more important than judgement, intelligence, and leadership skills? Obama has a monopoly on those factors. On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president.

wow, are you kidding me? You're as much a blind McCain fanboy as the countless Obama fans.

Oh, please. I've called McCain an idiot and likened him to a sea cucumber. But he's better than Obama.

Less experience =/= bad president.

Less experience =/= good president. But this isn't the argument I'm making.

Some of the best presidents in history were unexperienced. Lincoln anyone? You could draw many similarities between Obama and Lincoln in fact.

You could draw some similarities between him and Hitler too.

They both want change,

The difference between Obama and Lincolnis Lincoln actually did something.

they're both hated for it by the blinded racists, or Neo-cons as they are now known, and are both dismissed because of "lack of experience". Since when is experience more important than judgement, intelligence, and leadership skills?

Two of which Obama is lacking. He has demonstrated terrible judgement with his choosing of peers, and he has no leadership skills beyond saying a fancy speech.

Obama has a monopoly on those factors.

:lol:

On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president.

Palin is far and away more experienced than Obama.

smarb001

[QUOTE="smarb001"] On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president. famicommander

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Isbrealiompie"]Theokoth why are you so anti-obama?smarb001

I'm not.:| Do you see any bias in my poll or OP?

wow, are you kidding me? You're as much a blind McCain fanboy as the countless Obama fans. Less experience =/= bad president. Some of the best presidents in history were unexperienced. Lincoln anyone? You could draw many similarities between Obama and Lincoln in fact. They both want change, they're both hated for it by the blinded racists, or Neo-cons as they are now known, and are both dismissed because of "lack of experience". Since when is experience more important than judgement, intelligence, and leadership skills? Obama has a monopoly on those factors. On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president. If Obama becomes president (which is becoming more and more likely, especially with the blindingly obvious pandering to women with Palin and McCains increasingly erratic behaviour) he will probably be a great president, and if cannot acknowledge that you are obviously biased. Of course, McCain so obviously going to be an awesome president because he was a prisoner!

What experience has Obama had exactly? For the time he's been in his current position he's done nothing but run for president.:|

Obama for sure

Palin is useless
Toriko42

LJS brings up an incredibly valid point. Obama has done nothing except co-sponsor bills that were already going to pass and campaign for president. Palin has built roads, updated sewer systems, managed the growth of the fastest-growing city in Alaska (and yes, I'm aware that it's still a tiny city), and maintained the balance between getting resources and protecting wildlife in Alaska.famicommander

[QUOTE="smarb001"] On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president. famicommander

1. Obama only graduated from Harvard in 1991. Sorry to disappoint you, but I dont think Obama could have launched into a political career a year after graduation. Palin won a college scholarship in a beauty contest at the age of 20. She went to a small university in Idaho and majored in journalism. Obama was a leader his entire life, studied law for in Harvard, became a lecturer there for 12 years, majored in politics and minored in international relations. I'm sorry, whos more experienced?

2. I was well aware of that. And about your second point, thats like saying if Obama gets elected and serves 2 years as president, he'll have more experience than Palin :| It's completely irrelevant.

[Obama was a leader his entire life, studied law for in Harvard, became a lecturer there for 12 years, majored in politics and minored in international relations. I'm sorry, whos more experienced?

smarb001

1. Obama only graduated from Harvard in 1991. Sorry to disappoint you, but I dont think Obama could have launched into a political career a year after graduation. Palin won a college scholarship in a beauty contest at the age of 20. She went to a small university in Idaho and majored in journalism. Obama was a leader his entire life, studied law for in Harvard, became a lecturer there for 12 years, majored in politics and minored in international relations. I'm sorry, whos more experienced?

smarb001

[QUOTE="famicommander"][QUOTE="smarb001"] On topic, however you choose to define it, Obama has more experience than Palin and will make a better president. smarb001

1. Obama only graduated from Harvard in 1991. Sorry to disappoint you, but I dont think Obama could have launched into a political career a year after graduation. Palin won a college scholarship in a beauty contest at the age of 20. She went to a small university in Idaho and majored in journalism. Obama was a leader his entire life, studied law for in Harvard, became a lecturer there for 12 years, majored in politics and minored in international relations. I'm sorry, whos more experienced?

She also majored in political philosophy.;)

[QUOTE="smarb001"]

[Obama was a leader his entire life, studied law for in Harvard, became a lecturer there for 12 years, majored in politics and minored in international relations. I'm sorry, whos more experienced?

LJS9502_basic

When he doesn't have a teleprompter, he sounds like he's had a lobotomy. Uuuhhhhhh we uuhhhhhhhhh need some uuuuuhhhhhh change!

By the way, haven't seen you around in awhile man.