Obama orders med shops in California to close down.

I am glad firearm can never be banned under the protection of Constitution. Otherwise I would be worry about illegalizing firearm because most homicides cases are involved with firearm. I don't own a gun, but, I know my rights.

magicalclick

So much quality in three sentences

I don't use pot. I've never smoked it or even been tempted to.

That said... this nickel-and-dime BS in regards to marijuana needs to stop, and the laws against it need to be revised/abolished/whatever it would take to make it legally available.

First is the taxation issue. By regulating it and taxing it, new revenue would be opened up to the government. By legitimizing the drug, we take the money out of the hands of criminal enterprises.

Next, jobs in legally growing, harvesting, packaging, shipping and distributing hemp would be created. Anything that eases unemployment has to be a positive.

By regulating it, marijuana use would become safer. I've heard stories from friends who got joints that were laced with formaldahyde and PCP, and they were universally horrible (one friend had to be hospitalized because his sense of balance was thrown 90 degrees off by formaldahyde poisoning for three days). Quality testing and FDA regualtions should go a long way to eliminating that.

Also, legalizing it will open up resources we current use to persecute and prosecute weed sellers and growers to fight the really harmful drugs, like meth, coke and heroin.

By extending existing laws against DWI and public intoxication, local governments can cash in on irresponsible users through fines and penalties (and weed out those individuals as well).

Finally, we could have some awesome ad campaigns ("Smoke Two Joints" by The Toyes could get popular again, too! :D ).

I'm sure there are downsides, but by now widespread use has already alerted us to harmful side-effects; a simple Surgeon General's warning label should suffice.

That's just my view of it, but what downsides there are far outweighed by the current state of our war on weed.

(I'm still waiting for Kanye to tell everyone that "Obama hates AIDS and cancer patients." That would make this surreal situation complete.)

it seems like obama doesn't give a crap if he upsets the people on the left, or those that support marijuana. He knows that they'll vote for him anyways, or atleast won't vote for the opposition.

it seems like obama doesn't give a crap if he upsets the people on the left, or those that support marijuana. He knows that they'll vote for him anyways, or atleast won't vote for the opposition.

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I doubt Obama ordered this at all, this stuff is usually handled by the Attorney General Eric Holder, the "Drug Czar" Gil Kerlikowske, and the DEA, and lately they've been saying how the IRS has been getting involved.JohnF111

Well, I think he knows about it now. So I guess you'll keep waiting for him to denounce it?

this is the dumbest decision the president could of made...might even be a dumber decision than george bushs decision to go to war with iraq...its a toss up...what a joke

this is the dumbest decision the president could of made...might even be a dumber decision than george bushs decision to go to war with iraq...its a toss up...what a joke

cee1gee

Like you can't get weed from your local dealer Bucked20

[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Like you can't get weed from your local dealer DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]Like you can't get weed from your local dealer Bucked20

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this is the dumbest decision the president could of made...might even be a dumber decision than george bushs decision to go to war with iraq...its a toss up...what a joke

DroidPhysX

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this is the dumbest decision the president could of made...might even be a dumber decision than george bushs decision to go to war with iraq...its a toss up...what a joke

cee1gee

This thread is going in more circles than a dizzy stoner... and is probably just about as productive. Really, the bottom line is that this is a GESTURE by the fed that will be forgetton weeks after it's done. Next year, there will be far more new dispenseries than the 16 they'll shut down now, in Cali alone. Whatever you think about marijuana, you'd better get used to it, because the fed isn't serious about stopping it, and states ARE serious about making money by taxing it.

This thread is going in more circles than a dizzy stoner... and is probably just about as productive. Really, the bottom line is that this is a GESTURE by the fed that will be forgetton weeks after it's done. Next year, there will be far more new dispenseries than the 16 they'll shut down now, in Cali alone. Whatever you think about marijuana, you'd better get used to it, because the fed isn't serious about stopping it, and states ARE serious about making money by taxing it.

Frame_Dragger

This thread is going in more circles than a dizzy stoner... and is probably just about as productive. Really, the bottom line is that this is a GESTURE by the fed that will be forgetton weeks after it's done. Next year, there will be far more new dispenseries than the 16 they'll shut down now, in Cali alone. Whatever you think about marijuana, you'd better get used to it, because the fed isn't serious about stopping it, and states ARE serious about making money by taxing it.

This thread is going in more circles than a dizzy stoner... and is probably just about as productive. Really, the bottom line is that this is a GESTURE by the fed that will be forgetton weeks after it's done. Next year, there will be far more new dispenseries than the 16 they'll shut down now, in Cali alone. Whatever you think about marijuana, you'd better get used to it, because the fed isn't serious about stopping it, and states ARE serious about making money by taxing it.

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"] Maybe taxing it is a good idea but that doesnt stop the punk ass hippies from abusing it and screwing the real patients out of the help they need.Kcube

[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Nobody is getting screwed out of anything; 16 shops out of thousands are going down because the IRS is twitchy about states taxing something they won't get a piece of. To think that this is IN ANY WAY interrupts the movement of marijuana in Cali through dispneseries is laughable. We're at a point now where in those states without MM laws, you often have treatment instead of jail, or as in many states just no charge for posession. That the fed is taking a long time getting a clue is the only problem here.

If hippies, or neo-cons, or whatever want to smoke marijuana, they should be able to, and in most places they can. What do we have to lose from legalizing this, except to decapitate a huge chunk of the mexican drug trade, turn a multi-billion dollar EXISTING industry legal and taxable, and free prison/court/police resources? I'm sorry, but this is a long period that will be looked upon just as we shake our heads at alcohol prohibition. Are there drunks abusing alcohol? Yeah. Can we reasonably outlaw it? No. Deal. With. It.Frame_Dragger

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"] I feel people are getting screwed..My Mom rotted away with MS and eventually died..She could have had something to ease the pain but the potheads pretty much screwed her and people like her.Kcube

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"] I feel people are getting screwed..My Mom rotted away with MS and eventually died..She could have had something to ease the pain but the potheads pretty much screwed her and people like her.Kcube

[QUOTE="Kcube"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] No cube, the government did that over a period of decades, not potheads. Potheads aren't making a substance that is safer and more beneficial than alcohol and tobacco illegal. I'm sorry about your mother, and I've seen people waste away from MS and cancer, but blame the people who are mindlessly making this a crime.Frame_Dragger

[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Kcube"] I'm not trying to argue...The people I blame are Newt gingrich and hippies..Newt said In my local paper 2 days after my moms death that MS wasn't proven to kill so they killed funding for it in congress or whatever..Followed by a bunch of hippies protesting it legalization. I won;'t lie..I bear a grudge.Kcube

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[QUOTE="Article"]Even licensed outlets operating under the 1996 voter-approved medical-marijuana law are subject to the federal crackdown.junglist101

Because f*** democracy.

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What are the chances California becomes a marijuana free state? I'm glad the obama administration is getting involved because now everyone is going to realize weed is spread accross california's landscape like grass. It's going to take an army to crackdown on every pot farm. Now the federal government are in a sticky mess. they decleared war on marijuana basically and theres no turning back. they can't be like oh sorry lets go back to the way it was; arrest recreational users and relieve medical patients. DEA is gonna arrest people and those people will be made an example. California will continue to enjoy marijuana. then the fedral government will realize there is no stopping the marijuana industryplaymynutz

[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] That would earn you state and federal criminal charges. As opposed to just federal.DroidPhysX

Is Obama admitting defeat and now he just doesn't care?

That really sucks. But uhh, what does Obama have to do with this exactly?drinkerofjuice

No self-respecting non-stoner would dare be in support of legalizing a known killer like marijuana. It causes lung cancer and brain damage, and it's so addictive that everyone who currently smokes it will use it until they die. And it makes me sick when I see poll results suggesting that over 50% of Americans support legalization. That just means the majority of Americans have a serious drug problem. I have NEVER heard of a non-user of marijuana who supported legalization and I never will.wiredguy255

I have never done any drugs in my life except alcohol or what few and meager pain pills have been prescribed me (and that terminated with the end of the prescription). I have never partaken of marijuana. Yet I fully support legalization of marijuana, and I definitely do not want us to stop there.